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A while back I got really cealiac sick from eating pop corn purchased at a sporting event. It made me really sick. I remembered that 'corn gluten' futures are traded on the Chicago exchange. I once discussed this with an animal nutritionist who argued me to the ground that it is the same gluten (chemically) that is in wheat (both are members of the grass family).
Anyway it turned out that the pop corn likely had been treated with MSG and it was that that made me sick. I have eaten corn since without a problem.
Does anyone have an opinion on this one. Do some celiac people get sick from the gluten in corn also??
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Gluten In Corn!
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 07:13 PM
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 07:25 PM
Corn gluten is vey different from the gluten that causes problems for celiacs. No corn product is a problem for celiacs, as least as far as gluten is concerned. There are some celiacs who have a problem with corn, just as there are some of us who have problems with soy, or other foods. Corn and rice are free from the protein that we know as gluten, even if there is a similarity in wording of some derivatives.
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 09:03 PM
Corn gluten is not a problem as far as celiac goes. This is a scientific fact. Could be a separate problem, however. MSG is gluten-free.
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 09:20 PM
Although MSG is gluten-free but many people have allergies to it.
Rusla
Asthma-1969
wheat/ dairy allergies, lactose/casein intolerance-1980
Multiple food, environmental allergies
allergic to all antibiotics except sulpha
Rheumitoid arthritis,Migraine headaches,TMJ- 1975
fibromyalgia-1995
egg allergy-1997
msg allergy,gall bladder surgery-1972
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Asthma-1969
wheat/ dairy allergies, lactose/casein intolerance-1980
Multiple food, environmental allergies
allergic to all antibiotics except sulpha
Rheumitoid arthritis,Migraine headaches,TMJ- 1975
fibromyalgia-1995
egg allergy-1997
msg allergy,gall bladder surgery-1972
Skin Biopsy positive DH-Dec.1 2005, confirmed celiac disease
gluten-free totally since Nov. 28, 2005
Hashimoto's Hypothyroidism- 2005
Pernicious Anemia 1999 (still anemic on and off.)
Osteoporosis Aug. 2006
Creative people need maids.
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Posted 04 April 2006 - 09:20 PM
I am one of those that has a problem with CORN. My seizures all started back with popcorn and after 3 time in 4 years I stopped popcorn. This wa before I know I had celiac disease. I was able to tolerate corn chips and other forms of corn up until my over load of soy created my thyroid problem.
Corn is in almost everything, right down to our medications. If you are like I am you have to have a Compounding Doc make a RX special without corn.
Some of us with celiac disease have secondary food allergies also.
Corn is in almost everything, right down to our medications. If you are like I am you have to have a Compounding Doc make a RX special without corn.
Some of us with celiac disease have secondary food allergies also.
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 04:57 AM
Alot of people react to MSG My wife ends up with a severe migraine the day following MSG ingestion.
I read somewhere that MSG in the USA is mostly gluten-free, however MSG manufactored in other countries may have gluten in it....
I read somewhere that MSG in the USA is mostly gluten-free, however MSG manufactored in other countries may have gluten in it....
Michael J. MacCartney
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William HLA-DQ 2,1 (Subtype 2,5) - Allergy free
Married to: Christina sweet and beautiful and the best gluten-free cook ever!
gluten-free 2005-June-24 Dairy free 2005-July-26
gluten / casein intolerant
HLA-DQ 2,3 (Subtype 2,7)
Diagnosed Celiac 2006-April-24
Father of:
Michael II HLA-DQ 2,1 (Subtype 2,6) - Allergic to Peanuts, tree nuts, eggs, and milk
William HLA-DQ 2,1 (Subtype 2,5) - Allergy free
Married to: Christina sweet and beautiful and the best gluten-free cook ever!
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 05:16 AM
Also, popcorn at the movies or at a sporting event is laden with that fake yellow butter, which has dyes and maybe wheat derivatives. So it might not be the popcorn, but what's on it. Also, popcorn is generally much harder to digest than corn meal or corn flour.
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 06:08 AM
If it's not table salt it could be something in the "flavouring" salt.
Linda, Mom to Ty (10 years old)
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Ty was diagnosed by blood test June 7/05
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 06:11 AM
Maybe the popcorn was contaminated with gluten. Were they selling hotdogs or hamburgers? Maybe there was gluten in the seasoning or the butter flavour?
Carrie Faith
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Diagnosed with Celiac Disease in March 2004
Postitive tTg Blood Test, December 2003
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 07:59 AM
As for your nutritionist friend, they may be "right" in a large-scale sense, but when you get down to basic molecular structure corn gluten is not the same. And that's what counts.
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Sorry if I sound smug -- it's that kind of day!
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Positive dietary results
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Posted 10 April 2006 - 04:51 PM
ms_sillyak_screwed, on Apr 4 2006, 09:20 PM, said:
I am one of those that has a problem with CORN. My seizures all started back with popcorn and after 3 time in 4 years I stopped popcorn. This wa before I know I had celiac disease. I was able to tolerate corn chips and other forms of corn up until my over load of soy created my thyroid problem.
Corn is in almost everything, right down to our medications. If you are like I am you have to have a Compounding Doc make a RX special without corn.
Some of us with celiac disease have secondary food allergies also.
Corn is in almost everything, right down to our medications. If you are like I am you have to have a Compounding Doc make a RX special without corn.
Some of us with celiac disease have secondary food allergies also.
Are you hypothyroid?
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Posted 10 April 2006 - 09:13 PM
I was hyperactive personality my whole life.
When I came down with celiac disease my thyroid went into the HYPER mode. I grew a hot nodule. Then had RAI raditation treatment. It was too much for my system and it burned up my thyroid now I'm HYPO. I take thyroid medication. The regular tyyoid medication had CORN in it as a binder LEVOXYL. And the dies are cross contaminated with gluten I'm convinced... So I go to a compounding RX and made it for me free of the poison.
Some celiac's have a problem with corn too.
When I came down with celiac disease my thyroid went into the HYPER mode. I grew a hot nodule. Then had RAI raditation treatment. It was too much for my system and it burned up my thyroid now I'm HYPO. I take thyroid medication. The regular tyyoid medication had CORN in it as a binder LEVOXYL. And the dies are cross contaminated with gluten I'm convinced... So I go to a compounding RX and made it for me free of the poison.
Some celiac's have a problem with corn too.
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Posted 11 April 2006 - 08:41 PM
coldandhardy, on Feb 14 2006, 11:13 PM, said:
A while back I got really cealiac sick from eating pop corn purchased at a sporting event. It made me really sick. I remembered that 'corn gluten' futures are traded on the Chicago exchange. I once discussed this with an animal nutritionist who argued me to the ground that it is the same gluten (chemically) that is in wheat (both are members of the grass family).
Anyway it turned out that the pop corn likely had been treated with MSG and it was that that made me sick. I have eaten corn since without a problem.
Does anyone have an opinion on this one. Do some celiac people get sick from the gluten in corn also??
Anyway it turned out that the pop corn likely had been treated with MSG and it was that that made me sick. I have eaten corn since without a problem.
Does anyone have an opinion on this one. Do some celiac people get sick from the gluten in corn also??
corn is about the only thing I CAN eat. I was wondering about the popcorn thing though like movie popcorn. I read on a celiac site that msg was to be avoided my celiac patients. I got really sick once before my diagnosis from eating donuts that may have had it, but then again... I have celiac.
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