Just thinking out loud here and have not done any further inquiry as of yet.
I got to thinking and wondering, would the same mechanism that causes villus blunting and atrophy also be responsible for the same response of the oral mucosa/epithelium? It seem that it would make sense since it is the gateway to the digestive system that there might possibly be a link to gingivitis/gum disease and celiac if this were the case. Does anyone know if there is inquiry in this direction. I keep thinking about all the dental issues that could have been earlier clues for effective celiac diagnosis had my dentist been aware of this as a possible issue in the first place.
CS
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Receding Gums? Another possible link?
#2
Posted 18 November 2009 - 02:32 PM
I've had bone loss and receding gums for past 10 years or more...haven't done any research, but my bone loss came to mind upon celiac dx.
-Lisa
3/26/09 gluten-free - celiac confirmed from tTG IgA 3/3/09, biopsy 3/26/09, double DQ2 positive
10/27/09 diagnosed fibromyalgia - symptoms improve with amino acid supplementation/malic acid
11/29/09 I am back -- feeling stronger than I have in 20 years!
son (16) gluten free 6/1/09 - negative blood - gerd/reflux and mild fatigue all improved with diet
Thank you celiac.com friends for all your help and support during healing.
"This is your life, are you who you want to be?" switchfoot
10/27/09 diagnosed fibromyalgia - symptoms improve with amino acid supplementation/malic acid
11/29/09 I am back -- feeling stronger than I have in 20 years!
son (16) gluten free 6/1/09 - negative blood - gerd/reflux and mild fatigue all improved with diet
Thank you celiac.com friends for all your help and support during healing.
"This is your life, are you who you want to be?" switchfoot
#3
Posted 18 November 2009 - 02:34 PM
Don't know about your question, but I do know that antacids will cause receding gums. They are commonly used with bloating issues associated with Celiac.
Lisa
Gluten Free - August 15, 2005
Celiac.com - Celiac Disease Board Moderator
"Not all who wander are lost" - JRR Tolkien
Gluten Free - August 15, 2005
Celiac.com - Celiac Disease Board Moderator
"Not all who wander are lost" - JRR Tolkien
#4
Posted 18 November 2009 - 03:52 PM
My gums were quite inflammed before diagnosis and I did have quite a bit of recession. I do think they might be linked as since I went gluten free my gums have been doing very well although the recession of course has not gotten better it hasn't gotten any worse. Since celiac in full force can cause full body inflammation I wouldn't be surprised if it contributed. In addition since gluten crosses the mucosal membranes when we eat gluten our oral tissues are the first place where it enters the bloodstream it is IMHO quite likely it would effect our gums.
Courage does not always roar, sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying
"I will try again tommorrow" (Mary Anne Radmacher)
celiac 49 years - Misdiagnosed for 45
Blood tested and repeatedly negative
Diagnosed by Allergist with elimination diet and diagnosis confirmed by GI in 2002
Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis
All bold resoved or went into remission with proper diagnosis of Celiac November 2002
Some residual nerve damage remains as of 2006- this has continued to resolve after eliminating soy in 2007
Mother died of celiac related cancer at 56
Twin brother died as a result of autoimmune liver destruction at age 15
Children 2 with Ulcers, GERD, Depression, , 1 with DH, 1 with severe growth stunting (male adult 5 feet)both finally diagnosed Celiac through blood testing and 1 with endo 6 months after Mom
Positive to Soy and Casien also Aug 2007
Gluten Sensitivity Gene Test Aug 2007
HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0303
HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0303
Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 9,9)
"I will try again tommorrow" (Mary Anne Radmacher)
celiac 49 years - Misdiagnosed for 45
Blood tested and repeatedly negative
Diagnosed by Allergist with elimination diet and diagnosis confirmed by GI in 2002
Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis
All bold resoved or went into remission with proper diagnosis of Celiac November 2002
Some residual nerve damage remains as of 2006- this has continued to resolve after eliminating soy in 2007
Mother died of celiac related cancer at 56
Twin brother died as a result of autoimmune liver destruction at age 15
Children 2 with Ulcers, GERD, Depression, , 1 with DH, 1 with severe growth stunting (male adult 5 feet)both finally diagnosed Celiac through blood testing and 1 with endo 6 months after Mom
Positive to Soy and Casien also Aug 2007
Gluten Sensitivity Gene Test Aug 2007
HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0303
HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0303
Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 9,9)
#5
Posted 18 November 2009 - 04:33 PM
Interesting thought. My gums use to pull back anytime I ate pizza. I always blamed it on the tomatoes and that pizza is best eaten hot (or cold for breakfast). Now that I am gluten free I don't have this problem but still am eating hot pizza and tomatoes.
1960s-had symptoms-could have been before but don't remember
1970s-told had colitis or nervous stomach-was given phenobarbital, felt great but still had symptoms
Me, dd and ds diagnosed with Lactose Intolerance
2000-osteopenia
2001-had stroke because of medications I was given
June 2003-saw Chiropractor who specialized in nutrition: Celiac Disease not Lactose Intolerance, went gluten free with once in awhile cheating, off soy and dairy for about 6 months
June 2003-found excellent doctor for fibromyalgia (who has found out she has Celiac Disease)
May 2006-went gluten free with NO cheating-excellent! Made all the difference in the world
1970s-told had colitis or nervous stomach-was given phenobarbital, felt great but still had symptoms
Me, dd and ds diagnosed with Lactose Intolerance
2000-osteopenia
2001-had stroke because of medications I was given
June 2003-saw Chiropractor who specialized in nutrition: Celiac Disease not Lactose Intolerance, went gluten free with once in awhile cheating, off soy and dairy for about 6 months
June 2003-found excellent doctor for fibromyalgia (who has found out she has Celiac Disease)
May 2006-went gluten free with NO cheating-excellent! Made all the difference in the world
#6
Posted 18 November 2009 - 04:51 PM
It's an interesting theory, my gums started receeding in my 20's (celiac disease for 47 years) what's maybe even more so is that for me is that the first reaction i get to gluten is my tongue, it starts to feel swollen and comes up with red itchy blotches and circles, and thats when i put it in my mouth it's almost instantaneous for me and thats when I know for sure that I've been glutened.... I used to have a lot of mouth ulcers when i was a child/teenager and i know that's been the topic of studies recently...
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, not even if i said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense....... Buddha
Minds are like parachutes, they only function when open..... Thomas Dewar
If you want to be someone ... be yourself...
Minds are like parachutes, they only function when open..... Thomas Dewar
If you want to be someone ... be yourself...
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