Get email alerts Get Celiac.com E-mail Alerts  




Celiac.com Sponsor:
Celiac.com Sponsor:




Ads by Google:






   Get email alerts  Subscribe to FREE Celiac.com email alerts

Fasting After A Glutening? Pros And Cons?
0

10 posts in this topic

Hello All,

I have read some conflicting information on fasting, but the bits and pieces I've come across have been about rotational diets, which some discouraged for newbies.

 

I'm wondering if any of you fast after a glutening, either because that feels best or because  you've been advised to by a doctor.  I've been gluten-free for 9 months and accidentally glutened myself yesterday (SOOOooooo mad at myself).  Up until this point, my glutenings (which have been mostly cross contamination) have included an initial reaction and then I steadily got better.  Today I felt as though I got progressively worse- I might as well have the flu with the added plus of stomach cramping.  The kicker is I felt GREAT yesterday.  I tried to eat some lunch and some soup just now, but it doesn't make me feel any better and I feel like I'm forcing it down.  Water feels good.  Maybe some juice...

 

On a completely different note, it seems as though my symptoms are evolving to include headache, muscle ache, and joint ache.  That's never been an issue before, even before I went gluten-free.  Every encounter is an adventure!

 

Your comments are appreciated!!!  I don't want to do anything harmful that will make me feel worse.  :wacko:

Shellie

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


Ads by Google:

I have found that I get very severe pains in my stomach that are only alleviated by not letting it empty fully after a glutening. Eating very much also distresses me greatly. I simply graze lightly all day on whatever sounds or feels good, either physically or emotionally. Half an apple and a smidge of peanut butter, a teeny bowl of soup, sometimes just small glasses of milk, or my ultimate comfort food, mac & cheese. With food, I do whatever feels good for my body.

 

More importantly, drink water. Then drink more water. When you can't stand water any more, have more water. Most of us will get either C or D and either way water will help greatly.

 

It is normal for symptoms to get worse with time, your body now is used to being free of gluten and can overreact in a whole new way. All you can do is wait for it to pass and treat yourself with TLC. I wouldn't fast, which is a personal choice, but if eating is making you physically ill a day off probably won't be the end of the world. Just don't let up on the liquids to get all that evilness flushed out of you.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have found that I get very severe pains in my stomach that are only alleviated by not letting it empty fully after a glutening. Eating very much also distresses me greatly. I simply graze lightly all day on whatever sounds or feels good, either physically or emotionally. Half an apple and a smidge of peanut butter, a teeny bowl of soup, sometimes just small glasses of milk, or my ultimate comfort food, mac & cheese. With food, I do whatever feels good for my body.

 

More importantly, drink water. Then drink more water. When you can't stand water any more, have more water. Most of us will get either C or D and either way water will help greatly.

 

It is normal for symptoms to get worse with time, your body now is used to being free of gluten and can overreact in a whole new way. All you can do is wait for it to pass and treat yourself with TLC. I wouldn't fast, which is a personal choice, but if eating is making you physically ill a day off probably won't be the end of the world. Just don't let up on the liquids to get all that evilness flushed out of you.

thanks Adalaide! evilness is the right would for it. ugh. I also have three swollen lymph nodes on my neck. Does that ever happen to you?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am not an alarmist but I had 2 swollen lymph nodes in my neck in 2007.   After testing and biopsy showing positive for NH Lymphoma.  I would recommend checking with your doctor. . . .  

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

I am not an alarmist but I had 2 swollen lymph nodes in my neck in 2007.   After testing and biopsy showing positive for NH Lymphoma.  I would recommend checking with your doctor. . . .  

 

Thanks Lyn. I See my doc in a couple weeks and I'll be sure to let her know. I did just have a physical this month and all my bloodwork was normal. At that time, I had a swollen lymph node in arm pit (which I think also corresponds to a cross contamination issue).  I'm fairly certain it is connected to my reaction to gluten, and I'm hoping the swelling goes away in a few days as it did before. I'm not one to take chances,though, and I will certainly take your advice!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites




Hi AS,

 

I think it is better to keep eating myself.  That way there is more good stuff in the gut to help thin out the bad stuff.  Lots of water is good too.  And some Pepto Bismol.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 I agree with a light diet and lots of fluids. After a glutening it seems as if everything I eat has gluten...! It's really just that my GI tract is a mess. I will definitely eat less, smaller volume, and the most gentle food I can (unprocessed, non acidic, not spicy, no dairy). I try not to take anything but tylenol but if I have to work I will take pepto as well.

 

I also agree that the reactions seems stronger than when this mess all started !!! Way more sensitive...

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 I agree with a light diet and lots of fluids. After a glutening it seems as if everything I eat has gluten...! It's really just that my GI tract is a mess. I will definitely eat less, smaller volume, and the most gentle food I can (unprocessed, non acidic, not spicy, no dairy). I try not to take anything but tylenol but if I have to work I will take pepto as well.

 

I also agree that the reactions seems stronger than when this mess all started !!! Way more sensitive...

Thank you all for your replies.  I did eat lightly yesterday and I'm continuing today, although I still feel incredibly nauseous.   Lots of juice and tons of water.  I must have gotten up to pee 10 times last night!  The swelling in at least one lymph node has gone away today as well.  Man, I'm not used to this long of a reaction.  It takes endurance! 

 

I was wondering- when the small intestine is swollen, there's a higher chance of leaky gut, right?  Can eating then cause toxins to be released into the blood stream?  

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hello All,

Just updating this post for anyone who may search it in the future.  Many times I read posts and wonder if they ever figured out what the issue was...

 

The shift in symptoms was actually a different issue- not from gluten.  The two issues just happened to coincide and who knows maybe the glutening triggered the other immune response.  Anyways, I was taking bactrim for a UTI after a round of cipro didn't work.  I was feeling great on the Bactrim for 5 days and it cleared all my UTI symptoms within a day or two.  After I had knowingly, stupidly glutened myself, the next morning I felt OK and had my usual breakfast.  It wasn't until lunch when I started feeling nauseous.  It did seem strange to me that I was feeling worse as the day went on, but I didn't think the med could give me those type of issues.  I had flu-like symptoms of headache, nausea, joint and muscle pains, and swollen lymph nodes- food didn't make sense to me and I didn't want it.  The next day I develop hives (hmmmmm).  Then I went to the Bactrim and low and behold all of that stuff was there.  Along with the hives came tongue swelling, which still hasn't completely subsided.  It's called a serum sickness reaction. Poor (yet still evil) gluten was blamed when it actually was a delayed allergic reaction to medication.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

thanks for the information, Anti-Soprano. Possibly your gut was frailer because of the glutening, though, and reacted to the med...

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
0

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      104,337
    • Total Posts
      920,456
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I had quite a few of the medical problems that you have before I figured out that gluten was the problem. I can’t do basic math or writing when I eat gluten also I get depressed, irritable, low energy, etc. The best route to go is to do an elimination diet and monitor how certain foods affect you. I eliminated MSG (Monosodium Glutamate), Nitrite, and oat based on the reactions that I get once I consume them. You must be disciplined on a gluten free diet, there is not such a thing as –It is just one cookie! If you can manage to go 100% gluten-free for three weeks and you see those problems going away, you will have a good idea if that is the cause of your problems. The blood test I did after being gluten-free for two years came back negative so the doctor just make me feel that I was crazy and making things up. I have a stool test done which came back with elevated igA also a gene test indicating I have two genes that code for gluten sensitivity. My lactose intolerance went away too, eating a lot of cheese now. Rash in arms? gone, Brown spots in teeth? Gone, Intestinal noises? Gone, Lack of bladder control? Gone, Constipation? Gone, and a lot others.   
    • Oh you're most welcome!  Another thing --- no steroids, oral or injected for 2 months prior to a dh biopsy. Lay off any topical steroid creams for 2 weeks prior. Really, stand your ground with them. It would also be great if you can get a friend or family member to go with you in case they take the biopsy from somewhere that you can't see such as the back of your neck. Your friend/family member can watch to make sure they don't take it directly ON a lesion. Do you have a primary care doc? You can also go to that doc & ask for a full celiac panel PLUS an eTG or TG3. 60% of people with dh test negative on the celiac blood panel but maybe you're one of the 40% who will test positive. It's worth a shot.
    • Thank you so much for responding, it's so hard to go on this journey of questions and Drs. I really appreciate the time you took to respond. God bless you 💖
    • Do you have copies of your blood test results? Can you post them? Don't forget to list the reference ranges. Is the TTG the only celiac test they did?  Do you have a copy of your pathology report? Get it if you don't. How many biopsies did they take & from what areas? Were you eating gluten right up until the biopsy?
    • I got them on the back side of my knees too. All the literature points out knees & elbows but doesn't mention the "behind the knee" portion of your leg. I eventually got them ON the knees itself but that was one of the last places to present. I also got them on the inside bend of my arm instead of the elbow and just like the knees, it eventually presented on my elbows. Not to be forgotten; the literature also states it can present anywhere on the body. If you found those links I've posted about how a dh biopsy is done correctly then print them out & take them with you to SHOW them. Any derm should be able to follow the directions or they should turn in their license.  As to them saying herpes, well duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, dh does have a herpes like presentation. That's why they call it dermatitis herpetiformis! Remember, they work for YOU, not the other way around. Insist. Make sure you're still eating gluten. Let us know how it goes. The best of luck to you!
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Entries

  • Recent Status Updates

  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      61,398
    • Most Online
      1,763

    Newest Member
    Erinmace
    Joined