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I Need A Safe Rice. Reacting To Lundberg Time, And Time Again.


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#1 CNV2855

 
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 06:22 PM

I'm probably far more sensitive and to a lot more substances than your average poster here.  I also have a sulphite intolerance in addition to being very sensitive to gluten, and I almost undoubtedly react to gluten free oats.  Salicylates are also something I react to.

 

The problem is that I do amazing on a diet consisting of potatoes and butter, with nothing else, but this isn't enough to sustain me nutritionally.  The potatoes work because there really isn't a risk of contamination because I'm able to peel off the exterior, with the starches being somewhat protected from pesticides, contamination, or what not through processing.  

 

Now I should be able to tolerate rice, and I love rice, so I bought a lot of Lundberg Sushi (also tried brown rice) rice and I did a heavy trial where I ate nothing but rice for the past week.  

 

I have been experiencing severe symptoms throughout the week.  I'll wake up, have a small amount of energy, eat rice, and literally pass out/fall asleep sitting up.  It's almost like I'm being hit by a tranquilizer and this is one of the symptoms I get to something I shouldn't be eating.  However, rice has no salicylates, and I'm rinsing it well, it isn't sulphited, so... I don't understand why I'm reacting to it.

I have been "awake" less than 5 hours a day ever since I began trialing this rice.  It was DEFINITELY getting me, and getting me good.

 

The only thing I can think of is oat contamination with Lundberg products.  I'd hate to cut rice out for good just because of contamination with one product... so are there any non-oat contaminated rices out there that you guys can tolerate?  


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 09:33 PM

It's tough, I've been looking for a safe rice myself.  I have reacted to Lundberg, Della, Alter Eco and Planet Rice.  Lotus Foods rice is one brand I haven't tried that might be safe, I don't know if others here have tried it or currently eat it.  I'm about ready to give up looking for a safe rice :/


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#3 Celiac Mindwarp

 
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 10:39 PM

I know I wouldn't be able to function on rice alone for long.

Do yo have any safe foods you could have too? I have done very well having a palm sized piece of protein, surrounded by fresh veggies, and good fats, with a little carbs.

Good luck working it out
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 02:14 PM

I finally found a rice that I don't react to.  I got it at a local Asian market.  It is a product of Thailand, and I looked for a lot of Thai writing on the package so that I could be sure that it had also been packaged in Thailand.  Yeah!  I haven't yet tried it unwashed, but washed I don't react to it.


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 08:07 PM

I use a rice called A Taste of Thai Jasmine Rice. I also cannot tolerate oats as well as corn and soy. It has never given me a bit of problems, is grown in Thailand, and labeled Glutenfree, and best of all is delicious and takes only 15 minutes to cook in a pan on the stove. I get it at my local ShopRite grocery store but it is not with the regular rices there and is in a section they have for oriental products.

 

It does have 3 grams of protein but I don't find rice to be that nutritious for me and so more often than rice I will eat quinoa which has considerably more protein and which also has fiber, amino acids. B vitamins and iron. But that is me...I am very yet underweight, not feeling that well and don't eat as much as I should be able to yet and so quinoa is a better choice for me at this time. Still I love this rice when I eat it though and think it well worth the price of about $4 a box of about 1lb.


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 08:22 PM

Have you considered that this isn't a "reaction" to the food, but rather blood sugar swings that are causing the problems.  Eating the way you described in your first post would make me feel like death lightly warmed over.

 

Also, you could just have an intolerance to rice itself.


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Posted 06 May 2013 - 12:18 PM

Have you considered that this isn't a "reaction" to the food, but rather blood sugar swings that are causing the problems.  Eating the way you described in your first post would make me feel like death lightly warmed over.

 

Also, you could just have an intolerance to rice itself.

 Here is something worth reading:  http://www.lundberg....afety_Tour.aspx

 

I would agree that maybe the reaction is not from cover crops or gluten itself but an intolerance to rice or the blood sugar swings.  After reading this article on the degree Lundberg goes to ensure a safe and clean product, I don't see how a cover crop could possibly cause a reaction, by the time the manufacturing process is completed. 


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Posted 06 May 2013 - 02:26 PM

 Here is something worth reading:  http://www.lundberg....afety_Tour.aspx

 

I would agree that maybe the reaction is not from cover crops or gluten itself but an intolerance to rice or the blood sugar swings.  After reading this article on the degree Lundberg goes to ensure a safe and clean product, I don't see how a cover crop could possibly cause a reaction, by the time the manufacturing process is completed. 

I read it, but it wasn't clear to me if  wheat or other gluten grains may have been harvested with the same equipment.  Did anyone pick that up?


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 05:41 AM

I know that Lundberg takes great care, and I appreciate it..  I still can't eat it without having symptoms, and I can eat rice from another source.  Of course, it could always be for some other reason, but the oat cover crop seems the most likely since I am sensitive to oats.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:47 AM

I read it, but it wasn't clear to me if  wheat or other gluten grains may have been harvested with the same equipment.  Did anyone pick that up?

Lundberg only grows and sells rice based products so there would be no other gluten grains harvested with their crop.


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#11 Kamma

 
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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:15 PM

Would the sensitivity be to the avenin protein in the oat cover crop?

 

It's my understanding that the avenin shares similarities with the gliadin proteins of wheat.

 

Coeliac Australia advises that:

 

"Gluten is the name given to the protein in wheat, rye, barley and oats that affect people with coeliac disease. It is a composite name representing

  • Gliadin in Wheat
  • Hordein in Barley
  • Secalin in Rye
  • Avenin in Oats

The current tests for gluten can measure gliadin, hordein, and secalin but not avenin as it is a slightly different protein. Accordingly it is prohibited under the Food Standards Code to use oats in foods labelled or advertised as gluten free. When people discuss gluten free oats (and laboratories advise that oats are gluten free) what should be said is that they are free from wheat (and rye, barley) gliadin i.e. there is no measurable contamination.

 

Avenin is an essential part of oats (as gliadin is with wheat). Oats will never be gluten (i.e. avenin) free [even if they are described as gluten (i.e. gliadin) free]. As mentioned in The Australian Coeliac magazine on several occasions, Dr Robert Anderson has found that approximately 1:5 people with coeliac disease react to pure uncontaminated oats i.e. they react to oat avenin.

 

Since we cannot determine who is the 1:5 and we know that damage can occur in the absence of symptoms, Dr Anderson’s advice (and Coeliac Australia’s) is that oats should not be consumed without a biopsy prior to and during consumption."

 

Referenced here:  http://www.coeliac.o...isease/faq.html


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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:30 PM

I agree with tarnalberry, it could be a high blood sugar reaction.

 

Can you mix vegetables in your rice?, like steamed broccoli and carrots - yum.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 09:38 AM

Have you considered that this isn't a "reaction" to the food, but rather blood sugar swings that are causing the problems.  Eating the way you described in your first post would make me feel like death lightly warmed over.

 

Also, you could just have an intolerance to rice itself.

 

 

I agree, You are not eating much at all, hon.  You need more variety and sustenance. I would feel pretty punk eating just potatoes and butter.

 

Lundberg only grows and sells rice based products so there would be no other gluten grains harvested with their crop.

 

and I have never had a reaction to Lundberg rice and I'm a pretty sensitive sort.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 05:11 PM

Try the bags of rice from predominantly Chinese stores brands that are from the Philippines etc, they rarely grow wheat there, and rice tends to be grown in paddys in the middle of nowhere
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:10 AM

I knew about Thailand, but not the Philippines.  I guess they do grow some wheat there: http://avrotor.blogs...d-bibingka.html  I guess hardly any as this source, a USDA report dated 3/2013, http://gain.fas.usda...s_3-27-2013.pdf

says that there is no commercial production of wheat, barley or oats in the Philippines.

 

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