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#1 UnhappyCoeliac

 
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 03:02 AM

The fridge is full of goods all with Gluten, but you're starving and you haven't eaten all day.

No shops are open

 

Discuss your next decision here and your reasoning...

 

Seems to be my downfall alot. My general decision is given in to hunger pains and pray for a better tomorrow (it never comes)


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 05:08 AM

Why wouldn't there be some eggs or cheese or fruit in the fridge? Popcorn, nuts or potato chips in the cabinet? Frozen fries or veggies or ice cream in the fridge? Even when I ate gluten, not everything in the fridge had gluten in it. If you have to eat gluten free, you should make sure you have things you can eat in the house.

This sounds like you set yourself up so that you have to eat gluten.
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:13 AM

I just realized - your not new to this. You have been a member for 4 years. i was assuming you were new and didn't really know about food that have gluten and ones that don't.

So my question back is - why are you eating gluten on purpose after 4 years?
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:35 AM

The fridge is full of goods all with Gluten, but you're starving and you haven't eaten all day.
No shops are open
 
Discuss your next decision here and your reasoning...
 
Seems to be my downfall alot. My general decision is given in to hunger pains and pray for a better tomorrow (it never comes)

 
My next decision would be to make a resolution to plan more.
 
You can freeze cooked rice in Sandwich bags and have cans of black or red beans in the pantry.  If you make gluten-free pasta, it's just as easy to make a whole bag of it as it is to make a small portion, then freeze single portion sizes.  Same with soups or chili or practically anything.  
 
Then you have to ask yourself a day or 2 in advance what you are going to eat the next couple of days, and move stuff from the freezer to the refrigerator.  
 
The staples I always keep are cheese, milk, tomato sauce, salsa, rice cakes,  corn or rice chips, peanut butter, eggs, various canned beans, frozen and canned fish,  romaine lettuce and root vegetables.
 
Even if you don't feel inspired to make something delicious, you can have something in your refrigerator or pantry to eat safely and avoid hunger pains.
 
Good luck, wish you well.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:48 AM

This is difficult for me to answer since this would never happen in my house. 

 

My fridge would not "be full of gluten" (and that was true even before I was diagnosed)

 

You can't be healthy if you starve yourself all day long (celiac or not), it is not wise to deprive your body of nourishment that way.

 

I am thinking you really did not expect us to tell you anything except plan ahead, get some healthy food in your house (vegetables, fruit, yogurt and maybe some peanut butter and G F Crackers) so you do not find yourself opening the fridge door and seeing what you deem "nothing" to eat.

 

Granted, you may very wll  live with "gluten eaters", but even still, you should have your own food supply.

 

If you were an uninformed newbie, I'd give you more empathy and write out a detailed shopping list and "hold your hand" so to speak, but you're not new to this, hon

and frankly, it's time for you to stop putting yourself in this position. okay?.

 

 

I hope you will make a shopping list, go get some good things to eat, stop starving all day long and take better care of yourself. Best wishes!


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:38 AM

I realized one day that gluten might be a problem. The same day I identified what I had without gluten. Within a few days the rewards of gluten-free was so great that I removed it from my home, so as not to be tempted or forget. I live alone but if someone else were here I would expect them not to selfishly sabotage my health. No matter who else is around, I take responsibility to maintain my own healthy environment. 

What else is going on, that makes you feel such lack of control over your own life?


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:39 AM

Due to my massive weight loss after going gluten free several of my friends went to Doctors to see if they could find the answers to their weight problems. 2 good friends discovered they are Celiacs went gluten-free and are now much much happier and healthier. One of my very best friends discovered outside of being over weight she is in perfect health. She now excepts that she is over weight because she eats too much. Despite the fact she has low self esteem due to being over weight she has decided it's not worth giving up the food to lose weight. It sounds like you feel it's not worth giving up the food to heal. If you are constantly eating gluten your body can't heal. You are the only one who can save yourself! When I was diagnosed I was weaker than my 71 year old mother. Now I have more energy than my 24 year old co-worker. My depression is gone (unless I accidently injest gluten like I did earlier this week). My life is worth living and it's worth fighting for. Only you can decide to fight!  

 

If you want to fight you will fight and the people on this forum will help you.  


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 12:13 PM

I believe this is a hypothetical question, and one that I've ocassionally wondered about.

If in a disaster/desert island/prisoner situation you had no access to safe food, and your only options were to either starve or eat gluten and suffer, which would you do?

 

I'd probably hold out as long as I could, but if there were no other options (hypothetically), I probably would eventually give in and suffer the consequences. I might feel like I'm dying, but it would probably keep me going until safe food could be found.

 

More realistically though, it does mean that we really have to plan ahead. Safe gluten free "emergency/disaster" supplies, always having something in our bag just in case, etc etc.

 

If does make me think about people who have little food access or control over their food, for example homeless people or others relying on donations, prisoners, etc. There's probably a lot of people out there who have Celiac/Gluten Intolerance and don't know it, and are suffering even more by eating whatever they are offered or can get their hands on.

 

Anyway, I do believe this was a hypothetical. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it is something to remember that for some just surviving is more important than their long-term health, and that's a pretty sad thing. (I could rant on about food security, but we'll stop there)

 

Now to check on the gluten-free emergency food stocks...

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 12:40 PM

The fridge is full of goods all with Gluten, but you're starving and you haven't eaten all day.

No shops are open

 

Discuss your next decision here and your reasoning...

 

Seems to be my downfall alot. My general decision is given in to hunger pains and pray for a better tomorrow (it never comes)

 

1) Find a 24 convenience store that sells nuts and bananas or apples.

2) Knock on a neighbor's door and see if they have a piece of fruit you can eat.

3) Don't eat, get up early the next day, and go shopping to fix the ridiculous state of food in the house.

 

Ok, #3 is a little snarky, but also meant a lot seriously.  If there is literally *NOTHING* in your house that doesn't have gluten in it, you have a very poor diet (and poor emergency planning skills)..  (Oooo... Come on people, flame me!  This is totally flame worthy!  I'll stand by it, but it's ripe for the bashing. :) )  Why do I say this?  Because fruit and vegetables do not contain gluten.  Because dairy (milk, yogurt, cheese, ice cream, etc.) do not contain gluten.  Because beans do not contain gluten.  Because rice does not contain gluten.  Because fats (oils, butters) do not contain gluten.  Because nuts and dried do not contain gluten.  (And many of these items (canned beans, canned vegetables, nuts, rice, canned meats) are useful "emergency" foods to have on hand in the case of a natural disaster.)  If *EVERY* food in your house contains gluten, you simply don't have a healthy variety of nutritious foods around you, which - many studies back this up - almost certainly means your diet as a whole does not have a healthy variety of nutritious foods.

 

I don't actually mean to sound like a "w"itch about this.  And it's not actually personal, though I'm responding to your (OP's) post.  It's a pet peeve of mine that people choose to bring unhealthy foods into their house and choose NOT to bring healthy foods into their house.  It's your responsibility (unless you are under ... let's say 15), to have some choices.  (Of course, there is the obvious exception for, as stated by PP, being homeless, destitute to the point where you have no food, and so on.  But, you have food in your house, and I don't recall you being a pre-teen, so that doesn't apply in this situation.)

 

Personally, in your situation, I would go find a store that was open (even if I had to drive half an hour) and fix the problem.  My health and my body is too important to treat it badly.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 12:46 PM

1) Find a 24 convenience store that sells nuts and bananas or apples.
2) Knock on a neighbor's door and see if they have a piece of fruit you can eat.
3) Don't eat, get up early the next day, and go shopping to fix the ridiculous state of food in the house.
 
Ok, #3 is a little snarky, but also meant a lot seriously.  If there is literally *NOTHING* in your house that doesn't have gluten in it, you have a very poor diet (and poor emergency planning skills)..  (Oooo... Come on people, flame me!  This is totally flame worthy!  I'll stand by it, but it's ripe for the bashing. :) )  Why do I say this?  Because fruit and vegetables do not contain gluten.  Because dairy (milk, yogurt, cheese, ice cream, etc.) do not contain gluten.  Because beans do not contain gluten.  Because rice does not contain gluten.  Because fats (oils, butters) do not contain gluten.  Because nuts and dried do not contain gluten.  (And many of these items (canned beans, canned vegetables, nuts, rice, canned meats) are useful "emergency" foods to have on hand in the case of a natural disaster.)  If *EVERY* food in your house contains gluten, you simply don't have a healthy variety of nutritious foods around you, which - many studies back this up - almost certainly means your diet as a whole does not have a healthy variety of nutritious foods.
 
I don't actually mean to sound like a "w"itch about this.  And it's not actually personal, though I'm responding to your (OP's) post.  It's a pet peeve of mine that people choose to bring unhealthy foods into their house and choose NOT to bring healthy foods into their house.  It's your responsibility (unless you are under ... let's say 15), to have some choices.  (Of course, there is the obvious exception for, as stated by PP, being homeless, destitute to the point where you have no food, and so on.  But, you have food in your house, and I don't recall you being a pre-teen, so that doesn't apply in this situation.)
 
Personally, in your situation, I would go find a store that was open (even if I had to drive half an hour) and fix the problem.  My health and my body is too important to treat it badly.


That's what I was trying to say. Thank you! And the fact that he said this happens to him often tells me he isn't asking a hypothetical question.
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 12:57 PM

 

 

Personally, in your situation, I would go find a store that was open (even if I had to drive half an hour) and fix the problem.  My health and my body is too important to treat it badly.

 

Amen!!!

 

 

That's what I was trying to say. Thank you! And the fact that he said this happens to him often tells me he isn't asking a hypothetical question.

 

I think that is pretty much what we are all saying.... and I agree with you completely on the second point. 

 

as I said, even if the OP shares a home with others, there HAS TO BE SOMETHING in that fridge without gluten in it.... fruits, vegs, cheese.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 02:51 PM

When it is late at night and I want a snack and everything is either more effort I am willing to put forth or doesn't sound good, I have a glass of milk. It is always safe, satisfies my hunger and will get me through til morning when I feel like making something. Unless I were in a life and death situation, I will go hungry 100% of the time before I will eat something that isn't safe for me. It is a simple matter of choice. Do you or do you not care about being healthy?


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:11 PM

Amen!!!

 

 

 

I think that is pretty much what we are all saying.... and I agree with you completely on the second point. 

 

as I said, even if the OP shares a home with others, there HAS TO BE SOMETHING in that fridge without gluten in it.... fruits, vegs, cheese.

Sometimes I find myself wondering what happened to the old forum...the one where everyone was nice and supportive, the one where you could unload without being judged or slammed.

 

That's probably just me though.


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:38 PM

Sometimes I find myself wondering what happened to the old forum...the one where everyone was nice and supportive, the one where you could unload without being judged or slammed.

 

That's probably just me though.

 

Having been a member here since 2009, there has been sufficient time to learn how to stock a pantry and refrigerator, how to eat and how to be healthy. There is only a certain amount of coddling that can be done when a celiac is intentionally ingesting gluten before what they need is a wake up call and/or swift kick in the pants to help them realize they need to stop and they only person who can save them from themselves is them.

 

After more than 3 years if there is literally not a single fruit, vegetable, meat or dairy product in the house there are far bigger problems with his diet than gluten. That isn't a judgement or slamming anyone, that is the flat out honest truth that needs to be said before he ends up hospitalized. It is to help him. Tough love is still love.


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:41 PM

Sometimes I find myself wondering what happened to the old forum...the one where everyone was nice and supportive, the one where you could unload without being judged or slammed.

 

That's probably just me though.

 

I am always nice, supportive and non judgmental. You know this about me.

Of all the replies,at least  I gave the OP an "out"--that maybe she lives with Gluten eaters

 

and frankly, I have no idea why you have selected my post to highlight here.

 

And sometimes I honestly wonder why I continue to take the time to help when I get slammed as often as I do.

 

And the OP is not "new" and she needs to get it together fast. Everything I say is my opinion, given with compassion. She can take it or leave it. but there is no need to accuse me of being judgmental.


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