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#1 kpw31

 
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Posted 10 June 2013 - 10:24 AM

My 5 year old is in the process of being tested for celiac disease.  We are scheduling an endoscopy, hopefully for the end of June.  The only issue she has is chronic abdominal pain, she has been complaining about it for about 5 months on a regular basis. It's hard to figure out what it feels like (nausea, cramps, gas etc) being only 5, she still has a hard time explaining what kind of pain it is.   She is a skinny kid too but has never been off the charts (about 25th% since she was born) and hasn't lost weight recently.  I just don't know what to make of all of this, I always read that constipation and diarrhea are symptoms but she always has had regular bowel movements.  Could this really be celiac?  (also all of he blood work has been normal except for an elevated IGG-TGG level).    Just wondering what everyone else's experience was.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 10:49 AM

My daughter is in a minority with mostly skin issues.  She has 3 kinds of rash, the distended "wheat" belly, hasn't been on the growth charts since 9months and almost had a FTT dx at 12 months, she coughs and vomits, has mood swings, possible joint pain (totally random complaints but may just be toddler accident prone), possible anemia, urinary frequency and accidents, and off the charts mood swings.

 

Hope that helps!


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:04 AM

My daughter is in a minority with mostly skin issues.  She has 3 kinds of rash, the distended "wheat" belly, hasn't been on the growth charts since 9months and almost had a FTT dx at 12 months, she coughs and vomits, has mood swings, possible joint pain (totally random complaints but may just be toddler accident prone), possible anemia, urinary frequency and accidents, and off the charts mood swings.

 

Hope that helps!

 

Oh, and a fever.  Allergy skin testing was negative and allergist said he was confident in the result.  


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#4 mommy2krj

 
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Posted 10 June 2013 - 12:39 PM

My 6 year old, who is also in the process of being tested (his endoscopy is June 19th) is pretty much the same as your 5 year old.

Been complaining every.single.day about his stomach hurting him. Random puking episodes (there weren't too many but there have been some) and apparently with the diarrhea and constipation here too....even though he would use the bathroom regularly...never had a complaint before this of any pooping issues unless there was a virus running through the house.

 

The pain in his stomach did increase to the point of him dropping to his knees in pain but it did so randomly.

 

 

Other things that I'm not sure are related to this or not....super dark circles under his eyes. He looks like someone decked him. I always chalked it up to his allergies (seasonal) but now I'm not entirely sure. There is also an issue with him getting some weird bumps right under his eye....gets all crusty and gross if I let it go too long and it is extremely itchy but it's only ever under his right eye starting at the tear duct/corner of his eye and stretching out from there. Doc gave us some cream once because she couldn't decide if it was impetigo or MRSA. I don't think it's either....though I couldn't tell you what it was. It didn't really respond to the cream we were given...though it did respond quite nicely to just some Neosporin....so I really have no idea!

Also....random complaints about joints and bones hurting but I haven't figured out if that is regular kid pains or if it is something more than that. They're pretty random. And he's started with some behavior issues too...which we totally didn't have prior to the start of all this. :/

 


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 04:21 PM

My 6 year old, who is also in the process of being tested (his endoscopy is June 19th) is pretty much the same as your 5 year old.

Been complaining every.single.day about his stomach hurting him. Random puking episodes (there weren't too many but there have been some) and apparently with the diarrhea and constipation here too....even though he would use the bathroom regularly...never had a complaint before this of any pooping issues unless there was a virus running through the house.

 

The pain in his stomach did increase to the point of him dropping to his knees in pain but it did so randomly.

 

 

Other things that I'm not sure are related to this or not....super dark circles under his eyes. He looks like someone decked him. I always chalked it up to his allergies (seasonal) but now I'm not entirely sure. There is also an issue with him getting some weird bumps right under his eye....gets all crusty and gross if I let it go too long and it is extremely itchy but it's only ever under his right eye starting at the tear duct/corner of his eye and stretching out from there. Doc gave us some cream once because she couldn't decide if it was impetigo or MRSA. I don't think it's either....though I couldn't tell you what it was. It didn't really respond to the cream we were given...though it did respond quite nicely to just some Neosporin....so I really have no idea!

Also....random complaints about joints and bones hurting but I haven't figured out if that is regular kid pains or if it is something more than that. They're pretty random. And he's started with some behavior issues too...which we totally didn't have prior to the start of all this. :/

 

Hi as soon as you said dark circles under eyes and achy joints I immediately thought of Salicylate Intolerance.  I am allergic to aspirin and all salicylates. All plants produce salicylates as natural pesticides. Therefore sals are in most fruit and vegetables. Very high in tomato sauce and olive oil. It causes everything from rashes, asthma, arthritis, and ADHD to migraines,  drifting eye,dizziness and vomiting.  See  sickfromsalicylates.com  for more symptoms.

 

Although there is a test for celiac, there is none for gluten intolerance or salicylate intolerance. In both cases you have to avoid the offending foods and see how you feel.  In my case 2 days after avoiding foods high in sals my asthma was  gone along with my arthritis, migraines, swollen glands, dry eyes, dizziness, and foggy headed feeling. 

 

Children (and adults) also experience eczema, ADHD, tourettes, aspergers and headaches from artificial colors. They are all made of petroleum and contain mercury lead and arsenic. See Feingold.org. Good luck, Joan


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 05:07 PM

My four-year-old daughter had three positive celiac blood tests (all the ones they ran) and is having an endoscopy this week. I want to second Jtoz54's thought about salicylates. It's been clear that my daughter had a food-related problem since early infancy (even when exclusively breastfeeding), and I tried all sorts of dietary changes before we thought to get her tested for celiac. The only thing that made any difference - aside from removing gluten - was a low-salicylate diet. It definitely helped significantly, although the improvements leveled off after a few weeks and it soon became obvious that it wasn't the only issue. I'm hoping that once we go gluten-free after the endoscopy, the salicylate intolerance will eventually resolve itself too.
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Daughter: Positive tTG-IgA, DGP-IgA, and DGP-IgG. Celiac confirmed by biopsy in June 2013, at age four. Clear gastrointestinal, behavioral, and neurological/sensory symptoms since very early infancy, even when exclusively breastfeeding.

Me: Diagnosis still unclear after extensive testing: Atypical wheat allergy, severe NCGI, or false negative celiac tests? Doctors disagree.Gluten challenge caused acute gastritis, esophagitis, and angioedema that lasted 4 months and was eventually determined to be a sulfite allergy. Gluten light for 15 years, then gluten free since June 2013.
Long history of eczema, chronic diarrhea, steatorrhea, ataxia, peripheral neuropathy, infertility, chronic insomnia, low cholesterol, vitamin deficiencies, and joint pain. Improved greatly within six months of going gluten-free.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 05:19 PM

My dd was diagnosed at five with textbook dermatitis herpetiformis. She is assumed to be celiac as well, but it was not necessary to continue with testing, since DH=celiac disease=Gluten Free for life.

Her symptoms varied. Joint pain, anemia, lactose intolerant (now that her GI tract is healed, she can have dairy), fatigue, "eczema" (was actually DH), etc. She was in the 40% on the growth charts from birth. By age six, after one year gluten-free, she was in the 90% for height. Symptoms are so variable, it is nearly impossible to make a diagnosis on symptoms alone. I've heard of celiac disease being self-diagnosed when lupus, allergies, MS, or other auto-immune disorders were actually at play.

It is good to get the biopsy, and have a definative diagnosis. Educate yourself on what can cause false-negative results. Remember, a diagnosis of celiac disease has a sunny side! It is a disease that can be managed through diet alone (no drugs! hooray!). And an early diagnosis means you can start practicing prevention earlier (hooray again!). Best wishes for quick healing!
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Posted 11 June 2013 - 06:53 AM

Hi as soon as you said dark circles under eyes and achy joints I immediately thought of Salicylate Intolerance.  I am allergic to aspirin and all salicylates. All plants produce salicylates as natural pesticides. Therefore sals are in most fruit and vegetables. Very high in tomato sauce and olive oil. It causes everything from rashes, asthma, arthritis, and ADHD to migraines,  drifting eye,dizziness and vomiting.  See  sickfromsalicylates.com  for more symptoms.

 

Although there is a test for celiac, there is none for gluten intolerance or salicylate intolerance. In both cases you have to avoid the offending foods and see how you feel.  In my case 2 days after avoiding foods high in sals my asthma was  gone along with my arthritis, migraines, swollen glands, dry eyes, dizziness, and foggy headed feeling. 

 

Children (and adults) also experience eczema, ADHD, tourettes, aspergers and headaches from artificial colors. They are all made of petroleum and contain mercury lead and arsenic. See Feingold.org. Good luck, Joan

 

 

Joan, thank you for the advice! Right now I'm a bit overwhelmed with the Celiac's thing....and we haven't even started removing food yet!!! But I will definitely keep it in mind if things don't clear up. I read through some of the stuff that has high salicylates and found that the majority of that list are things he doesn't eat. I will keep an eye on it though, for sure.

As far as the food dyes and such go....we were already trying to keep them out of our diet as much as possible. We moved toward a whole food diet and we're making a lot of stuff at home from scratch. Little guy definitely reacted to a couple of things. He goes crazy after eating ice cream for some reason...so we try to stick to homemade popsicles (haven't tried homemade ice cream yet!) and the cheaper chocolate bars/candies. We'd also noticed my older son reacting to nitrates/nitrites and msg and sodium benzoate so we tried to keep those things out as well. It's definitely hard as this stuff is in EVERYTHING!!! Looks like we might be giving Paleo a try since it seems to make sense with the diet restrictions.


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#9 Cara in Boston

 
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Posted 11 June 2013 - 10:21 AM

My son was diagnosed at age 5.  He complained for about a week of a stomach ache and it was gone before we even got in to see the doctor.  He never had any GI issues at all.  What we did notice (about a month before the complaining started) was a drastic change in behavior.  Tantrums over nothing, just totally out of control.  When I mentioned this to the doctor, she thought to test him for celiac.  We were surprised with the results as I had never really thought of behavior as a "symptom" of something.   After a few days being gluten free he was back to his delightful self again.  

 

Now, if he gets glutened accidentally (only happened 2x in 2 years) he gets all kinds of symptoms . . . stomach pain, bloating, joint aches, headache, etc.  He was sick for about 10 days from a graham cracker.

 

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#10 kpw31

 
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Posted 16 June 2013 - 05:50 AM

I didn't realize there were so many symptoms, I'm glad you were able to find answers for your children and help them feel better.  One other thing my daughter complains about besides stomach aches is feeling nauseous, I don't know if that's a symptom but I guess we'll find out when she has the endoscopy.  I just hate not knowing what the cause of all this is.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 06:19 AM

My 5 year old is in the process of being tested for celiac disease.  We are scheduling an endoscopy, hopefully for the end of June.  The only issue she has is chronic abdominal pain, she has been complaining about it for about 5 months on a regular basis. It's hard to figure out what it feels like (nausea, cramps, gas etc) being only 5, she still has a hard time explaining what kind of pain it is.   She is a skinny kid too but has never been off the charts (about 25th% since she was born) and hasn't lost weight recently.  I just don't know what to make of all of this, I always read that constipation and diarrhea are symptoms but she always has had regular bowel movements.  Could this really be celiac?  (also all of he blood work has been normal except for an elevated IGG-TGG level).    Just wondering what everyone else's experience was.

My child only had a diaria...and we took blood test.


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 10:24 PM

DD7 was just diagnosed in May

Her symptoms:
As a newborn she had a bm every 10 days until we started solids. Still "not constipated" from then until 15 months with a bm every week. Was very gassy & had a vibrating bassinet to help her sleep.

At 15 months she started becoming very constipated. BMs every 1-2 weeks & very painful for her to pass. Started 1 capful of miralax daily. X-rays revealed a gut full of poop but nothing else. Ped referred us to GI after 4 months of miralax & no improvement.

Saw GI at 18 months. Negatives celiac blood work. Mag citrate colon cleanse. Still on miralax, but colon cleanse does its job & she's now regular.

After 2 years on miralax & a colon cleanse every 3 months, we're told it's all just ibs. And we don't need GI anymore unless she has a problem. She was 3 1/2.

From then until she was 6 1/2 we had her on & off miralax, and needed to have her on a schedule with verbal reminders for bms. If no oe said anything she'd go a week without one.

Sometime in kindergarten she started having headaches. By the start of first grade she was getting sinus/ear nfections nonstop...we were wondering if she needed a 3rd set of ear tubes. She was complaining of joint pain & randomly having upset stomach.

By mid-Dec 2012, dd was very nauseous 4/7 days a week. Thought it was the flu but then it kept going. Brought her to ped late Jan 2013 & sent for GI X-rays. Her clon was enlarged & full & told it was her ibs. So back to colon cleanse & miralax. But she was still sick.

By mid-Feb we started keeping a food diary because we were suspicious. Got a referral to GI after she threw up at Bed Bath & Beyond after eating a scone. Bloodwork in April confirmed our suspicions; dh & I cried tears of joy because we were getting scared of what else it could be. One month later we got the results of her biopsy.

Since going gluten free a month ago, no complaints from her. She's lost 1 1/2 inches in her waist & lost that awful wheat belly + skinny leg look.
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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:04 AM

My eldest had horrific tantrums that would last for hours, some days from dawn to dusk she would lie on the floor crying, only stopping to have diahrrea up to 20 times a day. She would hardly eat, yet she had a huge stomach . She had a rash that we were told was excema, yet never responded to any cream. The skin was burned off her inside thighs from the toxic diahrrea. She was a little small for her age, but not enough to cause concern. We eventually took her to the er and demanded someone do something when we found her lying on the glazed over eyes. We told them we were no going to accept being told yet again that it was a tummy bug that would pass, and we're not leaving till something was done. They said to see our ped which was 5 weeks away. I asked the er doc if they thought in all honesty she would last 5 weeks, they got us an emergency appointment with the hospitals outpatient clinic. The head of that dept was stunned at how I'll she was.
Back and forth from gastros to be told she was constipated which she was but was actuall due to gluten, and had reflux, which she didn't.
All her blood tests were negative except the genetics. Gluten free everything disappeared and she sprouted upwards. Her skin is generally clear. Our gastro says its non celiac gluten intolerance. Our allergist and ped are convinced it's celiac we were just lucky enough to catch it before it caused enough damage to be picked up on the blood tests.

Our youngest was constipated, had something that looked like road rash on her torso, and aneamic. Our ped said given how sick her sister had been, and genetics, assume she has celiac disease, go gluten free and never go back.

Both kids suffered from damage to their bowels from being so constipated but after time on miralax both are doing amazing.
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Posted 18 September 2013 - 02:56 PM

my son is in the very beginning stages of looking to get a diagnosis, we have to put the gluten back into his diet to test and its been a tough decision to make, but when we get the date sorted, we will allow him gluten for a few days before. His symptoms up until now, constipation as a baby, turning to foul smelling putrid diarrhea up to 15 times a day most days. Slow cutting out of food groups, then foods, until we are left with 4 or 5 comfort foods that must be dry and crunchy(cereal, crackers, fries, potato chips, all now are gluten-free). A bad temperament towards food and mealtimes, mainly screaming at the mere sight of food. Irritability and big mood swings. Very pale, tired looking, PICA at around 1 year that improved with vitamins. Doctors have sent me away many many times saying he is a picky 2 year old having terrible 2 tantrums, but you know when there is something more going on. He isn't underweight but for a long time he refused all food and only wanted to milk, which didn't help the iron absorption at all. I think he hasn't lost weight due to the fact I finally give in at the end of the day and let him have milk than go to bed hungry. Finally now I have seen some improvements with taking the gluten out, they are thinking to look into it. Only a year and a half since I first walked in the doctors!!


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 04:11 AM

If your child is mostly gluten free before testing - you are very likely to get negative tests on everything - even if there is a problem with gluten.  Eating gluten a few days before the test is not likely to be enough.  Doctors differ in what they think is "enough" but most agree you need to be eating gluten regularly for 3-6 months before attempting to get an accurate test.

 

Even then, the tests can still be false negative, especially in young children. 

 

Just remember that a negative test does not necessarily mean no celiac/gluten sensitivity.

 

If your doctor told you that eating gluten a few days before the test is enough, you need a new doctor.

 

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