Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com!
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Almost 3 Year Old Endo Today And I Have A Few Questions.


justa

Recommended Posts

justa Newbie

My toddler since Thanksgiving has been consistently producing a white/cream or khaki color poop. He complains of tummy pain frequently and vomits. His stomach is not rigid. yes gross sorry. 

He will be 3 in August and is 27 pounds and average height. He has thrown up at least 10 separate occurrences and several times here and there one time. He drinks about 20 oz of milk a day or water. He has a pretty heavy wheat and cheese diet. He doesn't care for meats much but does eat lots of veggies and fruit. 

 

We had his liver tested and it was all fine

We had an ultrasound done and all was fine.

 

We were told if he throws up one more time we needed to do an endoscopy. He threw up last week 3 times in 2 hours after a nap at the sitters. He empties his tummy each time. So I scheduled the endo.

 

ENDO was this morning and I was hoping for obvious Celiac but I didn't get that. The images "look" clean as a whistle. I have to wait until Friday to get the biopsy results. They did not do bloodwork yet because they said the ENDO would either tell you or not over blood work.

 

Does anyone know anything about if the images looks clean and biopsy coming back positive? Does it happen often.

I would just make him Gluten free by myself but my husband won't follow through unless a doctor tells him he needs to do this. BTW this is my allergy child who has terrible eczema skin also. He goes for allergy testing in July.



 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



kareng Grand Master

Have they looked at lactose intolerance?  You might want to look into that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
GottaSki Mentor

Make sure you ask for written copies of both the pathology and procedure reports for the endo and if it were my child I would push for a complete celiac antibody panel before removing gluten -- once that is done remove all gluten to see if symptoms improve -- many children improve quickly once gluten is removed.

 

Here is the complete panel:

 

Total Serum IgA

tTG - both IgA and IgG

EMA - IgA

DGP - IgA and IgG

 

the AGA is an older "Gliadin" (gluten protein) test -- optional but if run should also be both IgA and IgG

 

Hang in there Mom :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
justa Newbie

We are looking at that as well. I talked to the GI today and he said that my child would be throwing up after every time he drank or ate dairy most likely if it was lactose. At this point I am just trying to rule out one thing at a time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
justa Newbie

Gottaski- I will most likely do that. He thinks the endoscopy will come back with results but it is 50/50. I am not sure if he saw something he isn't saying but that is what he told us. He said everything visually looked ok and if the tests were negative we would talk about other options. I don't know what that means :) (I mean I technically do... "other options" is what I am referring.)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
greenbeanie Enthusiast

My four-year-old daughter had a clearly positive biopsy, but everything looked normal during the endoscopy itself. The pediatric GI said that he wouldn't expect the damage to be visible in most young children with celiac.

Like your son, she also had lots of vomiting, which started when she was just a few weeks old and exclusively breast feeding. At one point she was having projectile vomiting six or seven times each day and they did an ultrasound to check for pyloric stenosis, but it wasn't that. She also had significant neurological problems and extreme fussiness as an infant, but her GI symptoms didn't really start until she was a toddler. She did have clear problems with dairy too, but removing dairy did not help much overall (while she was still eating gluten).

It's good that the doctor will look into other options (whatever those may be) if the celiac tests are negative. I hope they figure it out soon!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mmcc54 Contributor

My toddler since Thanksgiving has been consistently producing a white/cream or khaki color poop. He complains of tummy pain frequently and vomits. His stomach is not rigid. yes gross sorry. 

He will be 3 in August and is 27 pounds and average height. He has thrown up at least 10 separate occurrences and several times here and there one time. He drinks about 20 oz of milk a day or water. He has a pretty heavy wheat and cheese diet. He doesn't care for meats much but does eat lots of veggies and fruit. 

 

We had his liver tested and it was all fine

We had an ultrasound done and all was fine.

 

We were told if he throws up one more time we needed to do an endoscopy. He threw up last week 3 times in 2 hours after a nap at the sitters. He empties his tummy each time. So I scheduled the endo.

 

ENDO was this morning and I was hoping for obvious Celiac but I didn't get that. The images "look" clean as a whistle. I have to wait until Friday to get the biopsy results. They did not do bloodwork yet because they said the ENDO would either tell you or not over blood work.

 

Does anyone know anything about if the images looks clean and biopsy coming back positive? Does it happen often.

I would just make him Gluten free by myself but my husband won't follow through unless a doctor tells him he needs to do this. BTW this is my allergy child who has terrible eczema skin also. He goes for allergy testing in July.

 

Hi Sorry sorry about your baby :( my one year old just had an endo Tuesday...her GI said on kids young you cant really see damage and that if their is damage its microscopic..so even before she went back he told us that and he said everything looked fine after just like he expected...she had a pos blood test so we did the endo to find out for sure...good luck!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



justa Newbie

Mm- thank you. This gives me some relief. While I don't want this diagnosis I welcome it because we can treat it at home. I also think overall it will help our situation.

Thank you for all the replies. I am waiting results :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      121,090
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Nicole K
    Newest Member
    Nicole K
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      120.3k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • cristiana
      Hi @trents Just seen this - Boot's is a chain of pharmacies in the UK, originally founded in the 19th Century by a chap with the surname, Boot.  It's a household name here in the UK and if you say you are going to Boot's everyone knows you are off to the pharmacist! Cristiana
    • Denise I
      I am looking to find a Celiac Dietician who is affiliated with the Celiac Disease Foundation who I can set up an appointment with.  Can you possibly give some guidance on this?  Thank you!
    • Posterboy
      Nacina, Knitty Kitty has given you good advice. But I would say/add find a Fat Soluble B-1 like Benfotiamine for best results.  The kind found in most Multivitamins have a very low absorption rate. This article shows how taking a Fat Soluble B-1 can effectively help absorption by 6x to7x times. https://www.naturalmedicinejournal.com/journal/thiamine-deficiency-and-diabetic-polyneuropathy quoting from the article.... "The group ingesting benfotiamine had maximum plasma thiamine levels that were 6.7 times higher than the group ingesting thiamine mononitrate.32" Also, frequency is much more important than amount when it comes to B-Vitamin. These are best taken with meals because they provide the fat for better absorption. You will know your B-Vitamin is working properly when your urine becomes bright yellow all the time. This may take two or three months to achieve this.......maybe even longer depending on how low he/you are. The Yellow color is from excess Riboflavin bypassing the Kidneys....... Don't stop them until when 2x a day with meals they start producing a bright yellow urine with in 2 or 3 hours after the ingesting the B-Complex...... You will be able to see the color of your urine change as the hours go by and bounce back up after you take them in the evening. When this happens quickly......you are now bypassing all the Riboflavin that is in the supplement. The body won't absorb more than it needs! This can be taken as a "proxy" for your other B-Vitamin levels (if taken a B-Complex) ...... at least at a quick and dirty level......this will only be so for the B-1 Thiamine levels if you are taking the Fat Soluble forms with the Magnesium as Knitty Kitty mentioned. Magnesium is a Co-Factor is a Co-factor for both Thiamine and Vitamin D and your sons levels won't improve unless he also takes Magnesium with his Thiamine and B-Complex. You will notice his energy levels really pick up.  His sleeping will improve and his muscle cramps will get better from the Magnesium! Here is nice blog post that can help you Thiamine and it's many benefits. I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice God speed on your son's continued journey I used to be him. There is hope! 2 Tim 2:7 “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things” this included. Posterboy by the grace of God,  
    • trents
      I'll answer your second question first. The single best antibody test for monitoring celiac blood antibody levels is the tTG-IGA and it is very cost effective. For this reason, it is the most popular and often the only test ordered by physicians when checking for celiac disease. There are some people who actually do have celiac disease who will score negatives on this test anyway because of anomalies in their immune system but your wife is not one of them. So for her, the tTG-IGA should be sufficient. It is highly sensitive and highly specific for celiac disease. If your wife gets serious about eating gluten free and stays on a gluten free diet for the duration, she should experience healing in her villous lining, normalization in her antibody numbers and avoid reaching a celiac health crisis tipping point. I am attaching an article that will provide guidance for getting serious about gluten free living. It really is an advantage if all wheat products are taken out of the house and other household members adopt gluten free eating in order to avoid cross contamination and mistakes.  
    • Anmol
      Thanks this is helpful. Couple of follow -ups- that critical point till it stays silent is age dependent or dependent on continuing to eat gluten. In other words if she is on gluten-free diet can she stay on silent celiac disease forever?    what are the most cost effective yet efficient test to track the inflammation/antibodies and see if gluten-free is working . 
×
×
  • Create New...