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Does Gluten Break Down From A Surface After A While?


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#1 BelleVie

 
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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:53 PM

It's been about two months since I went strictly gluten-free, and I've still been sick pretty consistently. Things are getting a littttle bit better, but still not where I'd like to be.

 

I'm certain that none of my food is CCed, as I cook mostly fresh veggies, and for processed things I try to use only gluten-free certified. But I work at a kindergarten, where people are constantly munching on cookies and crackers and bread, then using computers and the mouse, the tea kettle, the light switches, the doors, etc etc. It's in Korea, too, which isn't as obsessed with cleanliness as the U.S. is, so these things never get wiped down. My question is, could I be getting glutened from these things? For example, if I use the school computer, then get on my laptop right after, then eat a snack, could that be glutening me, or would that be too small of an amount? 

 

What sort of eating rituals do you all follow to ensure that your food and eating space is safe? And how much should one worry about being cross contaminated from unusual sources like these?  :rolleyes:  I don't want to be crazy, but I want to get into some really good habits so I can stop thinking about gluten so much during the day!!!!! 

 

Also, if my boyfriend eats a sandwich and then kisses me on the cheek, could that gluten me? I don't let him kiss me on the mouth until after he has brushed his teeth, but I've been allowing a peck here and there. :) 


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 04:29 AM

After touching anything that might have gluten on it, I am careful to wash up before touching anything that I am going to eat.  Skin contact with gluten should not be a problem if you wash it off before it can get ingested.

 

According to the University of Chicago celiac center, gluten takes 4 years to break down in soil.  I think that it would take longer to break down on a counter.  http://www.curecelia...q&submit=Search


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Posted 26 September 2013 - 02:00 AM

4 years? Seriously? Wow, this is like a rabbit hole. 


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Posted 26 September 2013 - 04:45 AM

I don't know what their reference was.  I e-mailed to ask them and they didn't get back to me.  I haven't been able to find any scientific studies to back that up.  It does make me want to exercise caution in my garden.


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 12:10 AM

It's been about two months since I went strictly gluten-free, and I've still been sick pretty consistently. Things are getting a littttle bit better, but still not where I'd like to be.

 

I'm certain that none of my food is CCed, as I cook mostly fresh veggies, and for processed things I try to use only gluten-free certified. But I work at a kindergarten, where people are constantly munching on cookies and crackers and bread, then using computers and the mouse, the tea kettle, the light switches, the doors, etc etc. It's in Korea, too, which isn't as obsessed with cleanliness as the U.S. is, so these things never get wiped down. My question is, could I be getting glutened from these things? For example, if I use the school computer, then get on my laptop right after, then eat a snack, could that be glutening me, or would that be too small of an amount? 

 

What sort of eating rituals do you all follow to ensure that your food and eating space is safe? And how much should one worry about being cross contaminated from unusual sources like these?  :rolleyes:  I don't want to be crazy, but I want to get into some really good habits so I can stop thinking about gluten so much during the day!!!!! 

 

Also, if my boyfriend eats a sandwich and then kisses me on the cheek, could that gluten me? I don't let him kiss me on the mouth until after he has brushed his teeth, but I've been allowing a peck here and there. :)

Depending on how sensitive you are, yes, the gluten you pick up from shared objects could really be harming you.  I know this because I was working with a student last year in the faculty cafeteria after school.  We worked on the tables that the teachers used for lunch and there is gluten everywhere.  I would come home and scrub my hands under the sink like a surgeon multiple times.  Took a shower and tried to scrub it off again using a washcloth.  Made and ate dinner.  My stomach immediately bloated in a gluten reaction.  :rolleyes:

 

This happened every time I worked there.  It happens when I try to meet my business partner at a coffee shop where we chat and I take notes.  I come home after having my notebooks and pens all over these gluten-covered tables and I wash my hands many times using a scrub brush and I still get a gluten reaction.

 

My solution now is to wear latex gloves whenever I work in these places.  It made me feel weird in the beginning to be wearing these in public, but I can cook and eat dinner without any reaction whatsoever, so I've actually gotten used to it and don't make apologies for it anymore.  Cause otherwise, the alternative for me is to get sick and wait for the contaminated skin on my fingers and hands to slough off which could take 24 hours or more before I'm safe.  :wacko:


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:22 AM

Isn't it weird that it doesn't seem to wash off?  I have examples of it not seeming to wash off either.  I find it mystifying.  


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:28 AM


 

My solution now is to wear latex gloves whenever I work in these places.  It made me feel weird in the beginning to be wearing these in public, but I can cook and eat dinner without any reaction whatsoever, so I've actually gotten used to it and don't make apologies for it anymore.  Cause otherwise, the alternative for me is to get sick and wait for the contaminated skin on my fingers and hands to slough off which could take 24 hours or more before I'm safe.  :wacko:

It's official...now I've heard everything.   :wacko: 


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 12:09 PM

Isn't it weird that it doesn't seem to wash off?  I have examples of it not seeming to wash off either.  I find it mystifying.  

 

Yeah, isn't that weird?  I thought washing with Dr. Bronner's and Ivory soap twice each along with a scrub brush and cloth and rinsing multiple times would do the trick, but nope! 

 

I found a post from someone about the difficulties of getting gluten off surfaces and it made a lot of sense that even soap might not be abrasive enough to get that "stickiness" off. 

 

 

It's official...now I've heard everything.   :wacko:

 

Yeah, but the funny thing is it works!  :lol:  I get less gluten reactions and I feel safer making my dinner from scratch every night. 

 

Also, probably the reason why I am that sensitive is because my leaky gut has never healed.  I think going gluten free is not enough for me.  I really need to be on a probiotic, enzyme, and glutamine regiment, and I just don't have the budget for it yet. :(


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 09:29 PM

Depending on how sensitive you are, yes, the gluten you pick up from shared objects could really be harming you.  I know this because I was working with a student last year in the faculty cafeteria after school.  We worked on the tables that the teachers used for lunch and there is gluten everywhere.  I would come home and scrub my hands under the sink like a surgeon multiple times.  Took a shower and tried to scrub it off again using a washcloth.  Made and ate dinner.  My stomach immediately bloated in a gluten reaction.  :rolleyes:

 

This happened every time I worked there.  It happens when I try to meet my business partner at a coffee shop where we chat and I take notes.  I come home after having my notebooks and pens all over these gluten-covered tables and I wash my hands many times using a scrub brush and I still get a gluten reaction.

 

My solution now is to wear latex gloves whenever I work in these places.  It made me feel weird in the beginning to be wearing these in public, but I can cook and eat dinner without any reaction whatsoever, so I've actually gotten used to it and don't make apologies for it anymore.  Cause otherwise, the alternative for me is to get sick and wait for the contaminated skin on my fingers and hands to slough off which could take 24 hours or more before I'm safe.  :wacko:

Haha maybe we should invent a line of stylish latex gloves for celiacs.  :D  I'd buy some! Lol. 


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 03:32 AM

I'd buy some too.   :rolleyes:


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 08:10 AM

It's official...now I've heard everything.   :wacko:

 

Oh come now, I doubt you've heard "everything" yet. -_- you're still young.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 08:25 AM

It's official...now I've heard everything.   :wacko:

It's official...now I've heard everything.   :wacko:

  

Oh come now, I doubt you've heard "everything" yet. -_- you're still young.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 09:01 AM

I've been thinking about this.  Reading about how gluten can jump off of tables whilst having a coffee or walking through the cafeteria and being assaulted by gluten particles and how all attempts to scrub the little beasties off have little effect, I did a quick search on ebay and found used HazMat suits at very reasonable prices.  :ph34r:  Do you think I'm over reacting?

 

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 09:35 AM

I've been thinking about this.  Reading about how gluten can jump off of tables whilst having a coffee or walking through the cafeteria and being assaulted by gluten particles and how all attempts to scrub the little beasties off have little effect, I did a quick search on ebay and found used HazMat suits at very reasonable prices.  :ph34r:  Do you think I'm over reacting?

 

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but...........who wants mesylthelioma, ya know?  ;)  if you or someone you know has it, you gotta call people and stuff.  (seems like a hassle)  ^_^


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 01:08 PM

Allergic to latex...sticking with soap and water.
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