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Mental Health Crises: What Else Might Be Wrong?


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#1 1desperateladysaved

 
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Posted 25 September 2013 - 06:46 PM

Anyone know of someone having a mental health crises and later it was found that they had a physical illness?  What physical illnesses/defects can mascarade for mental illness?

 

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 01:43 AM

Don't know if this qualifies as a crisis really but my son has PANS/PANDAS (autoimmune reaction to an infection) that causes anxiety/OCD as well as Tourette Syndrome overnight. He literally went to bed one night and woke up a different kid. We rushed him to the ER thinking he must have meningitis or something. It was scary.


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Posted 26 September 2013 - 05:03 AM

D

 

Do you mean besides celiac, righ? because that surely causes what appear to be mental health issues like depression and anxiety as many of us can attest.

 

let's see,  a few could be:

uncontrolled diabetes

endocrine and metabolic disorders

lyme disease

severe Vitamin deficiencies , like omega 3s and essential fatty acids, amino acids

anemia

a stroke, lupus, mono, and Parkinson's disease

Pain relievers, tranquilizers, birth control pills, antihistamines, muscle relaxants, and several other pharmaceuticals can mess with your head.

food additives, chemical sensitivities

heavy metal poisoning

candida albicans

hormonal imbalances

sleep deprivation

a brain injury, blow to the head, etc.

food intolerances, histamine intolerance and allergies

Pseudobulbar affect (PBA)
 

and I might add: a visit from an annoying mother-in-law could trigger total madness in some folks ...Just sayin


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Posted 26 September 2013 - 07:11 PM

Wowie,  I am guessing the doctors didn't check for all of that before administering their drugs.  In fact, I know they didn't.  I am not in control (It is not me) but I am going to be asking questions which I hope may help the doctors.  I happen to know the lady involved in the health crises and her one child has celiac genes both 2DQ2 and 2DQ8 genes!  I agree that celiac can make you sort of bonkers!  The one in crises also had a trigger event having not been the same since back surgery 5 or so years back.  She may have been checked for celiac, but may have low IgA and IgG.  She has had kidney problems and thyroid issues in the past.  Sigh.  She doesn't really want my ideas, but maybe my talking to the medical personnel possibly will get somewhere?  I doubt it, but I gotta try.

 

How to win friends and influence doctors without going totally bonkers yourself?  Sometimes I feel like D is trying to take on the whole medical establishment single handedly!  For this lady, I have to try.

 

Thanks for the ideas, it gives me more ideas of what questions I should ask.  I need all the amo that I can get.


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Posted 26 September 2013 - 07:23 PM

Wowie, I am guessing the doctors didn't check for all of that before administering their drugs. In fact, I know they didn't. I am not in control (It is not me) but I am going to be asking questions which I hope may help the doctors. I happen to know the lady involved in the health crises and her one child has celiac genes both 2DQ2 and 2DQ8 genes! I agree that celiac can make you sort of bonkers! The one in crises also had a trigger event having not been the same since back surgery 5 or so years back. She may have been checked for celiac, but may have low IgA and IgG. She has had kidney problems and thyroid issues in the past. Sigh. She doesn't really want my ideas, but maybe my talking to the medical personnel possibly will get somewhere? I doubt it, but I gotta try.

How to win friends and influence doctors without going totally bonkers yourself? Sometimes I feel like D is trying to take on the whole medical establishment single handedly! For this lady, I have to try.

Thanks for the ideas, it gives me more ideas of what questions I should ask. I need all the amo that I can get.

Just a couple of thoughts. She isn't low on IgG, but can be low on IgA. her doctors can't discuss her case with you without her permission. You might be able to make some suggestions to her or her family?
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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:02 AM

Just a couple of thoughts. She isn't low on IgG, but can be low on IgA. her doctors can't discuss her case with you without her permission. You might be able to make some suggestions to her or her family?

Thanks, the nurse I talked to got clearance for me.  I just basically asked questions about what care she was getting.  I am hoping for some influence in the situation in a gentle way!

 

I did read about one person who claimed low igG, so that is what made me think of it.  My IgG level is not high, so I have been wondering.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:23 AM

  I happen to know the lady involved in the health crises and her one child has celiac genes both 2DQ2 and 2DQ8 genes!  I agree that celiac can make you sort of bonkers!  The one in crises also had a trigger event having not been the same since back surgery 5 or so years back.  She may have been checked for celiac, but may have low IgA and IgG.  She has had kidney problems and thyroid issues in the past.  Sigh.  She doesn't really want my ideas, but maybe my talking to the medical personnel possibly will get somewhere?

 

 

 

but "celiac genes" do not determine celiac. You know this by now.

She may have selective deficiency of IgA, but they test for that when they do the celiac panel .

Sometimes, someone becomes stressed and the body has low seratonin levels. That would also cause mental health issues.

If she does not really respond to SSRIs, which are often prescribed for depression, then perhaps it is another medical condition that is the underlying cause.

 

Good luck with talking to medical personnel. I suspect they will nod and say "uh huh" and walk away.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:32 AM

but "celiac genes" do not determine celiac. You know this by now.

She may have selective deficiency of IgA, but they test for that when they do the celiac panel .

Sometimes, someone becomes stressed and the body has low seratonin levels. That would also cause mental health issues.

If she does not really respond to SSRIs, which are often prescribed for depression, then perhaps it is another medical condition that is the underlying cause.

 

Good luck with talking to medical personnel. I suspect they will nod and say "uh huh" and walk away.

Yeah, alas that is all true. 


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:41 AM

Yeah, alas that is all true. 

Believe me, Diana...I understand how frustrating it is to watch someone you care about go downhill and not even take any suggestions

from you about what could help. .

 

All you can do is be supportive, offer ways to help if she goes gluten-free (despite negative celiac panels) and be a friend.

 

As we often say on here, you can lead the horse to water.... 


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"Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way we cope with it makes the difference." Virginia Satir

"The strongest of all warriors are these two - time and patience." Leo Tolstoy

"If you want to lift yourself up, lift up someone else" Booker T. Washington

“If idiots could fly, the sky would be like an airport.”― Laura Davenport 

"Do or do not. There is no try. "-  Yoda.

"LTES"  Gem 2014

 

Misdiagnosed for 25+ years; Finally Diagnosed with Celiac  11/01/10.  Double DQ2 genes. This thing tried to kill me. I view Celiac as a fire breathing dragon --and I have run my sword right through his throat.
I. Win. bliss-smiley-emoticon.gif


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:54 AM

Thanks, the nurse I talked to got clearance for me.  I just basically asked questions about what care she was getting.  I am hoping for some influence in the situation in a gentle way!

 

 

 

You said this lady didn't want your help.  This nurse should be fired for talking to you about a patient's care, especially mental health issues!  As a person who worked on and with Health Information Laws for many years, I'm upset about this.  However, when your friend is better, she will be able to sue the hospital or doctor and this nurse for a lot of money.

 

 

Its possible her issues have nothing to do with Celiac - in fact, because only about 1 % of the population have Celiac, its really likely there is a different reason.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:03 AM

http://www.doctoryou...fer_niacin.htmln"

while this link isn't specific to this issue, if you research the doc involved you will find much of interest.

and Irish, the OP did mention a potential inciting event....and that the person involved hadn't "been right" since.

http://glutenfreewor...e/#.UkXIqJzD_IU

interesting, according to this a lack of niacin may actually contribute to developing

 

celiac.http://lists.topica....&mid=1721351910

might this explain the occasional person who seems to tolerate gluten after long term healing?


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:24 PM

Believe me, Diana...I understand how frustrating it is to watch someone you care about go downhill and not even take any suggestions

from you about what could help. .

 

All you can do is be supportive, offer ways to help if she goes gluten-free (despite negative celiac panels) and be a friend.

 

As we often say on here, you can lead the horse to water.... 

Yes, again.  Been there and done that and expect to do it again.

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 01:44 PM

Wowie,  I am guessing the doctors didn't check for all of that before administering their drugs.  In fact, I know they didn't.  I am not in control (It is not me) but I am going to be asking questions which I hope may help the doctors.  I happen to know the lady involved in the health crises and her one child has celiac genes both 2DQ2 and 2DQ8 genes!  I agree that celiac can make you sort of bonkers!  The one in crises also had a trigger event having not been the same since back surgery 5 or so years back.  She may have been checked for celiac, but may have low IgA and IgG.  She has had kidney problems and thyroid issues in the past.  Sigh.  She doesn't really want my ideas, but maybe my talking to the medical personnel possibly will get somewhere?  I doubt it, but I gotta try.
 
How to win friends and influence doctors without going totally bonkers yourself?  Sometimes I feel like D is trying to take on the whole medical establishment single handedly!  For this lady, I have to try.
 
Thanks for the ideas, it gives me more ideas of what questions I should ask.  I need all the amo that I can get.


She's lucky to have you in her corner! Sometimes meds (for depression or any med) can cause depression. So can being sick for a long time. Keeping you in my thoughts & prayers!

Healing (((hugs))),
Loey
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Posted 05 October 2013 - 07:08 PM

She's lucky to have you in her corner! Sometimes meds (for depression or any med) can cause depression. So can being sick for a long time. Keeping you in my thoughts & prayers!

Healing (((hugs))),
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Thanks, that means a lot.

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