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Response From Parmalat Canada
#1
Posted 22 October 2005 - 01:40 PM
Dear Ms. L.,
This is to acknowledge receipt of your e-mail to Parmalat Canada. We had experienced technical difficulties and we are not sure if you have already received a response. We apologies if you have already been answered and please accept our sincere apologies if you have not yet received an answer.
Thank you for taking the time to write to us regarding our products. In response to your inquiry, recent updates in regulations have changed the definition of what can be declared as a "gluten free" product. As a result of the changes in the regulations, we have reviewed our products and, under the revised regulations, only our Beatrice Sensational Soy Original, Vanilla, Chocolate and Sensational Juice Blends can be described as gluten free.
Thank you for contacting Parmalat Canada.
Sincerely,
Consumer Response,
Parmalat Canada
This is insane! Parmalat produces a ton of dairy products under various names. This would eliminate a lot of dairy that I can purchase at a reasonable price.
First cousin dx'd with Celiac Disease
Grandmother died of malnutrition b/c everything made her sick... sounds like celiac to me.
Gluten-free since June 2005
Dx with IBS February 2005
Blood tests both negative (or inconclusive?) for celiac (in 2002 and 2004)
#2
Posted 23 October 2005 - 10:39 PM
~lisa~
...Flames vs. Panthers, and Lifehouse, were best experiences OF MY LIFE!!...
...26 years old...
...Look in my forum profile for ways to read my public sports articles...
R.I.P. Uncle Gus (Sept. 21, 1971 - Oct. 2, 2004) ... R.I.P. Baba (Oct. 12, 1911 - Feb. 28, 2006) ... R.I.P. Uncle Lawrence (Aug. 7, 1943 - Jan. 4, 2009)
#3
Posted 24 October 2005 - 06:10 AM
Dx celiac disease Aug 25/05, ate KFC that night and gluten-free ever since
#4
Posted 24 October 2005 - 08:35 AM
Meanwhile, here's the letter I got from Yoplait.
Dear Mrs ____,
We aknowledge receipt your comments concerning the gluten in the Yoplait products.
We want to certified you that all the Yoplait Products are gluten free.
More information about all the Yoplait products are available on yoplait.ca our new Web site.
Once again, thank you for your comments and please be assured that Yoplait is continuously working to be the first to offer consumers innovative products of the highest quality.
Sincerely yours,
Marie-France Laurin
Consumer Service
YOPLAIT
Ty was diagnosed by blood test June 7/05
biopsy Aug 11/05, diagnosis confirmed Aug 18/05
Mom, Dad and big brother Celiac-free.
#5
Posted 24 October 2005 - 03:26 PM
~lisa~
...Flames vs. Panthers, and Lifehouse, were best experiences OF MY LIFE!!...
...26 years old...
...Look in my forum profile for ways to read my public sports articles...
R.I.P. Uncle Gus (Sept. 21, 1971 - Oct. 2, 2004) ... R.I.P. Baba (Oct. 12, 1911 - Feb. 28, 2006) ... R.I.P. Uncle Lawrence (Aug. 7, 1943 - Jan. 4, 2009)
#6
Posted 24 October 2005 - 05:06 PM
First cousin dx'd with Celiac Disease
Grandmother died of malnutrition b/c everything made her sick... sounds like celiac to me.
Gluten-free since June 2005
Dx with IBS February 2005
Blood tests both negative (or inconclusive?) for celiac (in 2002 and 2004)
#7
Posted 25 October 2005 - 09:38 AM
Ty was diagnosed by blood test June 7/05
biopsy Aug 11/05, diagnosis confirmed Aug 18/05
Mom, Dad and big brother Celiac-free.
#8
Guest_BellyTimber_*
Posted 25 October 2005 - 12:01 PM
I don't know what regulations have changed but it's my guess it may be either:
- sweeteners/fillers made from wheat like maltodextrin, dextrose which are known to be extremely (I mean extremely) low in gluten residue but which might conceivable disagree with those sensitive to wheat (though I have not definitely heard of that)
- cross contamination isues
There should be a standard for cross-contamination which should be lower than the codex standard though in practice items meeting the codex standard will often be far below the legal limit on the codex standard.
The items referred to in the letter may have contained as much gluten etc in the past as they will from now on, but the "goal posts" allowed for them to be described differently then.
What is unhelpful about the letter is that it does not explain explicitly what proportion of what residues is in what product and whether that is in fact a change from previously or not.
You should regard the actual ingredients list as more authoritative than any "contains" or "free" box.
The company owe you another letter clarifying these issues.
Maybe when they've sent you it you can go back to using some of those other products if they didn't cause you ill health before.
We have this kind of goalpost moving all the time in the UK.
#9
Posted 25 October 2005 - 12:20 PM
Do Yoplait products contain gluten?
We carefully analyze all of our ingredients (presence of wheat, rye, barley, triticale, spelt, oats and malt) to ensure they do not contain gluten. Our products can therefore be safely consumed by people with celiac disease.
I've noticed "modified cornstarch" on the list of ingredients of both Yoplait Creme & fruit and Spring Valley. Has the cornstarch been modified with gluten?
Modified cornstarch is used to stabilize yogourt and does not contain gluten.
And I thought my Yoplait days were over! Thank you for mentioning this!
#10
Posted 25 October 2005 - 02:24 PM
First cousin dx'd with Celiac Disease
Grandmother died of malnutrition b/c everything made her sick... sounds like celiac to me.
Gluten-free since June 2005
Dx with IBS February 2005
Blood tests both negative (or inconclusive?) for celiac (in 2002 and 2004)
#11
Posted 25 October 2005 - 03:03 PM
I left it at that. Except I did say how I was looking forward to a response soon.
Emailed Dairyland this morning also, and got this reply:
Thank you for your e-mail regarding our gluten free products. Below is out list.
GLUTEN FREE PRODUCTS:
Dairyland & Baxter Milk All white & flavoured milks are gluten free except chocolate milk - see below.
Dairyland & Baxter Chocolate Milk Corn gluten only
Dairyland & Baxter Whip Cream Gluten free
Dairyland & Nutrilait Plus Microfiltered Milks (Skim, 1%, 2%) Gluten free
Dairyland Plus Omega Milk Gluten free
Dairyland Ice Cream Mix/Milkshake Mix Gluten free (mix only as sold to customer).
Dairyland Frosted Malt Mix NOT gluten free (has corn, wheat, oat, rye, barley).
Dairyland California Yogurt Mix Gluten free
Pacific & Alpha Evaporated Milk Gluten free
Dairyland & Baxter Sour Cream, Dairyland Yogurts, International Delight They have corn gluten
Dairyland & Baxter Cottage Cheese (Plain & fruit flavoured) Gluten free except the cott. cheese combo fruit does have CORN gluten.
Dairyland & Fraser Valley Butter - salted & unsalted Gluten free
Dairyland & Baxter Egg Nog Gluten free
Dairyland & Baxter Buttermilk Gluten free
Meadowvale Margarine Gluten free
Armstrong & Saputo Cheese: Shred, Cheddar, Light Cheddar, Mozz., Feta, Nibblers, Slices (processed and Provolone), Fat Free Slices, Parmesan Grated Cheese, Saputo Cheese Strings & Saputo Cheese Heads, Saputo Ricotta Cheese, Bari & Stella Whey Ricotta Cheese Gluten free
Saputo Blue Cheese MAY CONTAIN TRACES OF GLUTEN
We hope that helps.
Sincerely,
> Deborah Elke
> Consumer Relations Coordinator
> Marketing Department
> Saputo
>
> Saputo Foods Limited
> 6800 Lougheed Highway
> Burnaby, BC, Canada V5A 1W2
>
> Tel: 1-800-672-8866 / Fax: 604-581-4106
> delke@saputo.com
> www.saputo.com
I love how there's a typo in the first sentence. And what the heck is corn gluten?!
It's a start. After all that, I decided to let Kellogg's know we need gluten-free cereal too. No response from them yet. The first time I wrote to them I got a letter that said (and I'm paraphrasing here) "We don't make gluten free products and we never ever will so P.F.O."
Ty was diagnosed by blood test June 7/05
biopsy Aug 11/05, diagnosis confirmed Aug 18/05
Mom, Dad and big brother Celiac-free.
#12
Posted 25 October 2005 - 05:47 PM
#13
Posted 25 October 2005 - 06:40 PM
First cousin dx'd with Celiac Disease
Grandmother died of malnutrition b/c everything made her sick... sounds like celiac to me.
Gluten-free since June 2005
Dx with IBS February 2005
Blood tests both negative (or inconclusive?) for celiac (in 2002 and 2004)
#14
Posted 26 October 2005 - 11:36 AM
Here's the response:
Dear Valued Consumer,
This is to acknowledge receipt of your recent call to Parmalat Canada .
Thank you for taking the time to write to us regarding our Sensational Soy Products. In response to your inquiry, recent updates in regulations have changed the definition of what can be declared as a "Gluten Free" product. As a result of the changes in the regulations, we have reviewed our products and, under the revised regulations, only our Beatrice Sensational Soy Original, Vanilla, Chocolate and Sensational Juice Blends can be described as gluten free.
Thank you for contacting Parmalat Canada.
Sincerely,
Consumer Response,
Parmalat Canada
Of course, I didn't even ASK about soy products. Here's MY response to them:
Thank you for your prompt response, but I am not writing about soy products, I am writing about milk, cheese, yogurt and margarine and butter products. For example, does a 4L jug of homogenized milk also contain gluten? Does your chocolate milk contain gluten? Gluten is a protein found in wheat, rye, barley (malt), oats, triticale, spelt and kamut. My son cannot ingest gluten, he will get very ill.
I am looking for a list of gluten free products from your COMPLETE line of products, including Astro and Beatrice yogurt, Lactantia spreads, Parkay spreads, Black Diamond cheese and cheese strings, Sargento grated cheese, etc.
I would appreciate a gluten free list for ALL products falling under the corporate entity known as Parmalat. So, a gluten free list for all Beatrice products, all Black Diamond products, all Astro products, all Lactantia products, etc.
Thank you.
We'll see what happens. They need me to buy their products after all. I am a Valued Consumer.
Ty was diagnosed by blood test June 7/05
biopsy Aug 11/05, diagnosis confirmed Aug 18/05
Mom, Dad and big brother Celiac-free.
#15
Posted 26 October 2005 - 02:42 PM
First cousin dx'd with Celiac Disease
Grandmother died of malnutrition b/c everything made her sick... sounds like celiac to me.
Gluten-free since June 2005
Dx with IBS February 2005
Blood tests both negative (or inconclusive?) for celiac (in 2002 and 2004)
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