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Hi everyone this is my first time asking a question on the forum. Does anyone know how long it takes being gluten free to help adhd and mood disorder? I have an 11 year old son and he has to take alot of meds and his Dr thinks that we can get him off the meds if he goes gluten free . He has always had adhd even when he was small he could not stay still and play with one thing. As he got older he destroyes everything, flyes mad over the least thing punches holes in the walls, he will get something taken away for several days and when he gets it back he does the samething over again and again. He procrastanates when we ask him to do anything. He has failing grades in school this year and will not study to make good grades. He always has to be first or the winner. At one time he would hit me. He thinks he is always right about anything no matter what I say. We had a brain scan done when he was 8 at the Amens clinic , but we didn't have the money for a follow up scan. We had food sesativaty test done and he had a sensetivaty to gluten and dairy. We tried gluten free but he would not eat and lost weight bad that we had to stop it. He has been gluten free this time since Nov. 9th. We have seen a slight difference so far he is eating better this time too. His Dr has 3 paitents that are gluten free and they do not take any meds. If anyone knows a time frame please let me know.

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Mom,

Please hang in there and watch him for more improvements.

I strongly feel that being G F will help your son. IMHO. I am no doctor but I have seen

many improvements in mood disorders  in children and adults alike.

is he also dairy free? Sometimes, that also helps if he has bowel issues.

 

There are many medical  articles on the gluten-behavioral disorder connection.

My brain was seriously affected by gluten, so I commisserate.

 

Your doctor is truly one of the enlightened ones to see the connection.

 

One question:.

Was your son tested for celiac BEFORE he went off gluten? I hope so.

There are no valid tests for "gluten sensitivity" at this time.

 

Please, read this:

 

http://www.livingwithout.com/blog/bad_mood-3499-1.html

 

My heart aches for you as I know you want your son to be healthy and happy.

It takes time, though....possibly months.There is no real  set- in -stone time frame, I am afraid, so all I can say is... please be patient.  The article above mentions 6 weeks, I think?

I send you my best wishes.

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I've had an ADHD diagnosis since I was 7 and I had the same hope that once the brain fog cleared up that I could live without my meds anymore. My celiac symptoms began when I started high school and I'm now a college senior. Unfortunately, I'm going through reevaluation because I'm still struggling in school and inter-personally with ADHD symptoms. That being said, there are a lot of other neurological issues that could be contributing. Our brains use the food we eat as precursors for the neurotransmitters in our brain, so if something is causing issues in that way then a change in diet could help. But that's not guaranteed. There's so much we don't understand about all these processes and every kid is different.

It has really helped me to have an outlet for all this frustration and also to be informed about what is going on and what medication changes are being made, even when I was really young. Medical tests and procedures can be really scary for children especially if they feel like they're not accepted as being who they are even when everyone around them is trying to help. Just from having been on the other end of this situation, I strongly recommend keeping your son in the loop and in the decision making process. It helps treatments work a lot more effectively because they won't be refused as vehemently and lets the child feel like they're also involved and in control of themselves and their lives. 

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Hi everyone this is my first time asking a question on the forum. Does anyone know how long it takes being gluten free to help adhd and mood disorder? I have an 11 year old son and he has to take alot of meds and his Dr thinks that we can get him off the meds if he goes gluten free . He has always had adhd even when he was small he could not stay still and play with one thing. As he got older he destroyes everything, flyes mad over the least thing punches holes in the walls, he will get something taken away for several days and when he gets it back he does the samething over again and again. He procrastanates when we ask him to do anything. He has failing grades in school this year and will not study to make good grades. He always has to be first or the winner. At one time he would hit me. He thinks he is always right about anything no matter what I say. We had a brain scan done when he was 8 at the Amens clinic , but we didn't have the money for a follow up scan. We had food sesativaty test done and he had a sensetivaty to gluten and dairy. We tried gluten free but he would not eat and lost weight bad that we had to stop it. He has been gluten free this time since Nov. 9th. We have seen a slight difference so far he is eating better this time too. His Dr has 3 paitents that are gluten free and they do not take any meds. If anyone knows a time frame please let me know.

56mom

My 12 year old son is a ADHDer. Just believe that you are not alone. Being a mom I understand the issues that you deal with everyday, and it is a full time job.

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