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Grain Brain Diet - Gonna Try It!


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#1 WinterSong

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 07:48 AM

Before I was diagnosed with Celiac I was very skinny and had a hard time gaining weight. I was eventually able to get my weight to a happy place. After going on the gluten-free diet, my body started accepting the calories and the nutrients, so I gained an extra 2.5 pounds. I was okay with that because I knew I was in a healthier place. However, I've been dealing with a food injury since last summer and because my physical activity was limited I gained another three pounds. I thought "Okay, my jeans are a little tight, but I'll fix this when I'm able to do cardio again." And then Christmas happened. Ugg. I've lost two pounds through increased activity and not going crazy with my favorite foods, but the last 5 or 6 are being really stubborn. I know it's only a few pounds, but because I'm a small person it is uncomfortable and I don't fit into any of my jeans or my favorite dress. And when you try to squeeze into really tight pants it can cause swelling in that area, making it even more uncomfortable. 

 

Over the holidays I read "Grain Brain" and have decided to try out the diet. I already eat very healthy, but the jump start into this program is to get rid of all carbs and sugars in the diet. This includes grains, fruits, most protein/nut bars (which have a surprisingly high amount of carbs in them), starchy vegetables, desserts, and sugary condiments. One of the ideas is that when the body cannot rely on carbs for energy it will become more efficient at processing fat for fuel. The book also talks a lot about a low carb diet being beneficial for the brain and helps to prevent psychological disorders. I highly recommend the read.

 

So I'm going to try it out for a few weeks (I am giving myself one cheat day a week). I'm very excited to start on Monday. The only reason why I haven't started yet is because I have some fruit in my fridge and I hate seeing good food go to waste, lol.

 

I'm hoping that this will help me tone up. I feel like even though I'm a fitness instructor, I've always had a hard time developing muscle mass. It's always been my goal to have really toned and strong ab muscles, rather than just being skinny. 

 

I'll keep you posted on my adventure :)


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 12:07 PM

Sounds a lot like a paleo or primal diet (which I am on) but you can have dairy, is that right?.


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#3 WinterSong

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 12:11 PM

I think the only dairy that is allowed is cheese. Do you eat fruit on your diet?
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Posted 01 February 2014 - 12:13 PM

. Mostly berries.

 

but I like melon and an apple on occassion.


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#5 WinterSong

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 07:10 AM

Gotcha. In this diet you nix all fruit for the first month. After that you can slowly start adding in occasional fruits and gluten-free grains. My regular healthy diet is basically the post-month 1 diet.

I'm very interested in how this diet will affect me physically and mentally. I'm just concerned about when I'm at work and not able to get to my kitchen for a meal. Normally I'd bring fruit and a protein bar, but that's not an option. Almonds and raw veggies? Any tips?
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Posted 02 February 2014 - 07:18 AM

I keep a bunch of baby carrots & celery sticks in the fridge for when I get the munchies.

I have almonds, yes and I have almond butter to dip into, if I need something. 

 

One thing I noticed (sans grains, legumes, dairy, sugar) is....I felt funny the first week.

Then, by week 3 my sleep improved. I had more energy. My appetitie descreased, but then steadied.

I do not feel hungry and I am not searching for goodies anymore.

 

I admit it, I like salty stuff like chips and I like chocolate, so those were tough to give up.

I salt my sweet potato fries instead. And I did not give up a vodka and seltzer while prepping dinner.

Even Robb Wolf says in his book..".Do it if you want.".LOL

 

Oh, if you can have dairy, you could chunk up some cheddar and snack on that.  

 

I added back in some feta on my salads and so I am not 100% paleo. I also "cheat" using Against the Grain bread sometimes.

It is made from tapioca starch & mozzarella, (primal ingredients, technically) but I figure the paleo police are not around, and so...lol.

 

I am doing it  for myself to see if the inflammation in my body goes down so I can strengthen the weak and atrophying muscles  and bone pain I developed from celiac. I have been able to go to the gym 3X a week and I see great improvement. 

 

Overall, I feel better and I may stick to it indefinitely.

Good luck! :)


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“If idiots could fly, the sky would be like an airport.”― Laura Davenport 

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"LTES"  Gem 2014

 

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 10:19 PM

Over the holidays I read "Grain Brain" and have decided to try out the diet. I already eat very healthy, but the jump start into this program is to get rid of all carbs and sugars in the diet. This includes grains, fruits, most protein/nut bars (which have a surprisingly high amount of carbs in them), starchy vegetables, desserts, and sugary condiments. One of the ideas is that when the body cannot rely on carbs for energy it will become more efficient at processing fat for fuel. The book also talks a lot about a low carb diet being beneficial for the brain and helps to prevent psychological disorders. I highly recommend the read.

 

So you recommend reading the book, is it overly dense/wordy? I've been meaning to read it. It's interesting that science proves the high fat, low carb way of eating to be healthy, and actually, superior to both the low fat and the mediterranean diet. As I'm sure Dr Perlmutter discusses in his book. (I've heard him lecture but have yet to read the book).

 

Actually what really freaked me out, and made a lot of sense, in his lecture was that 54% of the worldwide healthcare usage/strain caused by people diagnosed with Alzheimer's was preventable through lifestyle change. I mean… I knew that inflammation = bad… but 54% is a huge number. He estimated that to be 2.6 million Americans! *shudder*

 

Fun story, evidently autoimmune disease + inflammation + c reactive protein also leads to accelerated atherosclerosis. So, another good reason to manage inflammation/follow an anti-inflammatory diet, particularly for people with autoimmune diseases.

 

One thing I noticed (sans grains, legumes, dairy, sugar) is....I felt funny the first week.

Then, by week 3 my sleep improved. I had more energy. My appetitie descreased, but then steadied.

I do not feel hungry and I am not searching for goodies anymore.

 

Yup, that's carb flu! :P I get a wonderful headache that lasts about a week as I acclimatize and, in essence, detox from grains and sugar and all the other naughty things I ate before. But once your body shifts to burning fat for fuel, I agree you feel pretty good :)

 

Do you find you follow a more primal style or a paleo style? (primal allowing high fat dairy and the occasional beer [mark sisson] or paleo which is more strict [robb wolf or cordain])


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 04:46 AM

 

Do you find you follow a more primal style or a paleo style? (primal allowing high fat dairy and the occasional beer [mark sisson] or paleo which is more strict [robb wolf or cordain])

I suspect I fall more into the primal camp as I do use KerryGold butter, sometimes eat yogurt .....oh,  and I drink vodka.  :)

Giving  up grains, legumes, cheese, all high histamine foods (shellfish, cured meats, toms, citrus, etc.)

and going to the gym is torture enough.

Not giving up those, too. lol

 

I found Robb Wolf's book an interesting read and even he says "don't make yourself crazy with this....." he has a good point.


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"Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way we cope with it makes the difference." Virginia Satir

"The strongest of all warriors are these two - time and patience." Leo Tolstoy

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“If idiots could fly, the sky would be like an airport.”― Laura Davenport 

"Do or do not. There is no try. "-  Yoda.

"LTES"  Gem 2014

 

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 06:29 AM

I enjoyed reading the book. Not too dense, but if you've heard him lecture there are probably parts of it you can skip. In fact, you may already know all of the info that he presents. 

 

An update from me - I'm beginning day 4. I've been pretty successful sticking with the diet. My only cheat is an extra piece of dark chocolate (which is allowed in the "occasional food" category) and stevia (also an "occasional food") that I used in my almond milk hot chocolate (made with coco powder - no sugar and low in carbs, so I figured it's okay). No carb withdrawls or funny feelings. I'm eating a lot but still feel hungry in some aspect. I feel like eating a bowl of oatmeal gives me a different sense of fullness than an omelet does.

 

I'm using an app on my phone to track my food, and goodness you eat so much fat on this diet! Eggs, olive oil, almonds, avocados, salmon, cheese. I don't think he says in the book how many grams of fat vs protein you're supposed to eat. I hope I'm not eating too much fat. How much is too much?

 

I'm definitely eating more protein than I have in the past few years (I've found it hard in the past to get protein in my diet with my schedule and being away from home so much for work). I'm up to about 95 grams/day, which is actually the acceptable amount for my weight.

 

And let me say - I'm eating AMAZING food! Omelets in the morning (I'm thrilled that I can tolerate eggs now!), salmon topped with guacamole, sauteed green beans with onion and garlic, kale salad with lemon and feta, pan seared chicken (seasoning is everything). So anyone interested in trying this diet - you do eat real food. The challenge that I'm finding is that it's difficult to be away from my kitchen. A lot of these foods are things you have to prepare.

 

I haven't had a chance to work out much. I actually didn't sleep much (my own fault) on Monday night, was exhausted all of Tuesday, and of course ate everything in sight (mostly cheese and almond butter). So I'm going to get better about it this week. I haven't lost weight yet (Tuesday probably played a role in that), but I can sort of feel my body working in a different way. 

 

I'll post another update soon :)


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 02:47 PM

Another update from today - feeling overly full after each meal. It's the end of the day, and I've figured out that I'll have eaten roughly 1350 calories. It's not a lot, but I feel so full that it's hard to motivate myself to work out (I did a bit of weight training anyway and am on my way to teach a class in a bit). I feel like I couldn't possibly fit more into my stomach, but at the same time I don't feel 100% satisfied. I would love some more chocolate, lol. All of my food is amazing, but at the moment it's feeling like a long week waiting to see some results. 

 

IrishHeart, did you feel anything like this the first week? I'm hoping that it will get better. 

 

I also wonder how long it takes the body to start processing fat for energy efficiently.....

 

I have some loved ones who would be perfect candidates for this diet according to the book (in terms of brain/cholesterol issues), so I'm really hoping to have a good experience. I want to be a good example. 


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 04:07 PM

. All of my food is amazing, but at the moment it's feeling like a long week waiting to see some results. 

 

 

 

Nothing much happens in the first week, I am told.... be patient. :)


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"Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way we cope with it makes the difference." Virginia Satir

"The strongest of all warriors are these two - time and patience." Leo Tolstoy

"If you want to lift yourself up, lift up someone else" Booker T. Washington

“If idiots could fly, the sky would be like an airport.”― Laura Davenport 

"Do or do not. There is no try. "-  Yoda.

"LTES"  Gem 2014

 

Misdiagnosed for 25+ years; Finally Diagnosed with Celiac  11/01/10.  Double DQ2 genes. This thing tried to kill me. I view Celiac as a fire breathing dragon --and I have run my sword right through his throat.
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#12 WinterSong

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 07:56 PM

Nothing much happens in the first week, I am told.... be patient. :)

 

Thanks. Gonna stick with it! :)


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 02:50 PM

I suspect I fall more into the primal camp as I do use KerryGold butter, sometimes eat yogurt .....oh,  and I drink vodka.  :)

Giving  up grains, legumes, cheese, all high histamine foods (shellfish, cured meats, toms, citrus, etc.)

and going to the gym is torture enough.

Not giving up those, too. lol

 

I found Robb Wolf's book an interesting read and even he says "don't make yourself crazy with this....." he has a good point.

 

So… bulletproof coffee? :Phttp://www.bulletpro...ur-morning-too/ )

 

I also enjoyed Robb Wolf's book, Sission's was good too. I agree with the not making yourself crazy… although, I'm pretty sure I've already hit that point and beyond with celiac and research and some of the studies/projections for mucosal repair in the long term, etc. Sigh. 

 

But I really gelled with eating Primally (which is what I did for 6 months and then stopped due to life… and hopefully will start here again, soon.)

 

And let me say - I'm eating AMAZING food! Omelets in the morning (I'm thrilled that I can tolerate eggs now!), salmon topped with guacamole, sauteed green beans with onion and garlic, kale salad with lemon and feta, pan seared chicken (seasoning is everything). So anyone interested in trying this diet - you do eat real food. The challenge that I'm finding is that it's difficult to be away from my kitchen. A lot of these foods are things you have to prepare.

 

Your food sounds delicious! I'm sure it'll all pay off soon :) (also, yes, seriously, not nearly as convenient as other eating styles, it really pays off to preplan/make in bulk and freeze/store)


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 03:18 PM

So… bulletproof coffee? :Phttp://www.bulletpro...ur-morning-too/ )

 

 

 

No, I am old school. I just drink plain, brewed decaf with a bit of CREAM.   :D

sometimes, I get bold and put cinnamon or vanilla in the grounds so it brews in the flavor.


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"Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way we cope with it makes the difference." Virginia Satir

"The strongest of all warriors are these two - time and patience." Leo Tolstoy

"If you want to lift yourself up, lift up someone else" Booker T. Washington

“If idiots could fly, the sky would be like an airport.”― Laura Davenport 

"Do or do not. There is no try. "-  Yoda.

"LTES"  Gem 2014

 

Misdiagnosed for 25+ years; Finally Diagnosed with Celiac  11/01/10.  Double DQ2 genes. This thing tried to kill me. I view Celiac as a fire breathing dragon --and I have run my sword right through his throat.
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Posted 08 February 2014 - 06:24 AM

A little update:

 

Unfortunately, I found out that I wasn’t doing the diet effectively. The book was misleading because it said you could eat as many vegetables as you’d like. However, the carb content in green beans, garlic and onion (which were on the "good" list) was pushing me WAY past 40 grams of carbs per day – I was probably more like 80-100g which doesn’t push the body into that “burning fat for fuel” zone. I was very frustrated to have given up fruit and grains for five days already to not have it really count. Luckily, I found out that one of my fellow personal trainers is doing the same diet this month and she gave me a wonderful pep talk. I’ve adjusted my foods, and am now clocking in at 40g.

 

Yesterday was my first 40g day. Disclaimer: I had some major problems with the NYC subway system around lunch time which made me pretty irritable (especially because I was already hungry). But the entire afternoon/evening I felt really mad, which is unusual for me. I also developed a headache, had a dip in energy, and felt like I was starving even though I ate around 1500 calories. I’m hoping that the intense hunger will go away soon. My friend told me that it is natural to feel unfulfilled and tired. This morning I ate a small serving of green beans and a large omelet and a piece of dark chocolate, but I’m still hungry. No difference in terms of weight loss (with how hungry I am I was hoping that I lost two pounds, lol), although my friend said that it takes the body about a week to kick into fat-burning mode. It’s amazing the difference I feel when eating the carb-filled veggies compared to not.

 

So far, it’s proving to be difficult because I’m officially in carb/sugar detox. Part of me really wants to eat an entire cake, but I want to stick with it. I have clients and family members who would like to try the diet if I feel like I have success with it. I want to be a good example. Although my inner cake-eater thinks that I’m crazy.  :wacko:

 

I am excited for Sunday, which is my cheat day. My friend said that she has a cheat day, too, and that it’s actually beneficial to the diet. That day I will do high carb/protein and low fat, keeping the carbs and fats separate according to her advice. (And this is a person who I greatly trust with accurate fitness/diet information)

 

On another note, I did post a few questions on a low-carb forum to ask people about my veggie/carb dilemma and ask for support, and a lot of people were very negative. A few people told me that I should only be eating 1100-1200 calories a day, which as a personal trainer I never recommend doing that for more than one or two days per week because it puts the body into starvation mode and could potentially ruin the metabolism if it’s done long-term. (And I’m not doing 40g/day forever – just for a few weeks as a kick start) When I said that I couldn’t do less than 1200 cal/day (especially while I’m working on building muscle) and none of my trainer friends would recommend it, several people got kinda snippy and said, “Well, good luck on your ‘diet’.” I didn’t read any more comments after that. So thank you to my friends on this board – it’s a joy talking with all of you. It has always been a wonderfully positive, encouraging, and helpful environment.

 

On yet another note: My boyfriend’s roommate made cinnamon rolls. It took all of my energy to resist them and to remind myself that I have a gluten intolerance. I told my bf that if he wakes up in the morning and sees that all of the cinnamon rolls are gone and I’m bent over in agony…..we know what happened. Lol……I really want that cinnamon roll…..

 

Onto another day! Today’s menu:

Green tea. Small amount of green beans sautéed in coconut oil. 3 egg omelet with sharp cheddar and broccoli. Piece of dark chocolate

Pan seared chicken and smoked gouda cheese

Kale/red bell pepper/garlic/onion sautéed medley and ground turkey. More dark chocolate  B)


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Diagnosed with IBS - Fall 2007

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Gluten free as of March 25th, 2011 and going strong!

Positive biopsy April 1st, 2011

 

Blood test results back down to normal levels November 2012



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