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Can't you get the Navy to pay for some of this?

 

If I wanted to go back in, then yes.  The navy paid for my undergrad and they only do one or the other unless I went in for another tour.  My wife would not like that very much.

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If I wanted to go back in, then yes.  The navy paid for my undergrad and they only do one or the other unless I went in for another tour.  My wife would not like that very much.

 

Can't say as I blame her.  Stay home. You can do more good if you (1) stay alive and (2)get your medical degree.

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Just my humble opinion and I hope maybe this might resonate with you Deekle...

 

Many doctors (traditional doctors) if they can't give you a prescription drug to fix your symptoms, its like they stumble around lost muttering IBS....(Yup I can give you a pill for that, that works, ok you have IBS)

 

When looking at Celiac Disease we know that there isn't any medication, so it's like they struggle with the idea of a person having to change their diet, vs taking a pill. I think it's a matter of education, but also a matter of perception that we have in this world (generally speaking) that if you can't fix it will a pill, you can't fix it. Which is obviously not the case. So please, don't be that doctor :)

 

And thank you for your service.

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Hi Deekle and welcome! :)  Please do me a favor and enjoy your donuts for me when on your gluten challenge :D  And let us know how it all goes!  Hopefully being on the patient end will help you in your future career :D 

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Hi Deekle and welcome! :)  Please do me a favor and enjoy your donuts for me when on your gluten challenge :D  And let us know how it all goes!  Hopefully being on the patient end will help you in your future career :D

Celiac Log: Day 1 of gluten challenge. 

 

I ate a positively delightful bavarian cream filled donut last night at 7:00PM.  I expected to experience symptoms by 11:00PM as it usually takes the gremlins about 4 hours to strike in my experience.  Naturally the roiling stomach cramps and unmentionables came on at 2:00AM instead.  (P.S.  Sitting on the can until your feet go to sleep from sciatic compression really sucks.)  Score:  Gluten: 1  Me: 0

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Celiac Log: Day 1 of gluten challenge. 

 

I ate a positively delightful bavarian cream filled donut last night at 7:00PM.  I expected to experience symptoms by 11:00PM as it usually takes the gremlins about 4 hours to strike in my experience.  Naturally the roiling stomach cramps and unmentionables came on at 2:00AM instead.  (P.S.  Sitting on the can until your feet go to sleep from sciatic compression really sucks.)  Score:  Gluten: 1  Me: 0

Sorry Deekle that this is happening for you :(  this is why many of us do not complete a gluten challenge.

I would rather not have a "formal " diagnosis then have done a gluten challenge.I got my diagnosis in a very round about way  :P .

 

Matter of fact when my GI mentioned me  doing a gluten challenge he was teasing me and TOTALLY joking ,, cracked him self up so much he almost fell off his chair laughing . :o

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DEEKLE:  (P.S.  Sitting on the can until your feet go to sleep from sciatic compression really sucks.) 

 

IRISH: amen, brother.....and I think I just had a flashback. :ph34r: 

 

Sorry you are having pain  :( and there's no way in HELL I'd do what you're doing...not even for a zillion bucks. My brain would be fried by day 4.

 

You are one brave soul.

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 @ Deekle .. thanks for your service and thanks for this post!!!

 

Sorry Deekle that this is happening for you :(  this is why many of us do not complete a gluten challenge.

I would rather not have a "formal " diagnosis then have done a gluten challenge.I got my diagnosis in a very round about way  :P .

 

Matter of fact when my GI mentioned me  doing a gluten challenge he was teasing me and TOTALLY joking ,, cracked him self up so much he almost fell off his chair laughing . :o

I am new here and I am new to gluten free.  there is too much information here to weed through in such a short time, but I have been wondering why somebody would do the gluten challenge??  I am not celiac or may be and dont know,,, but I know what happens when I do eat gluten and there is now way in hell I am going to do it voluntarily!!!  

 

So I am still unclear.. what is the benefit to doing the gluten challenge?? I understand that  deekle has multiple things going on and may benefit from getting more clear information.   But for people like me that are sure it is the gluten that is affecting them,,, well is there a reason I should consider this challenge??

 

Not steeling your thread... just looking for answers...

 

@ Deekle,, How are you doing now?

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Fritz, no problem. The reason for a gluten challenge is simple: No gluten = no autoantibodies attacking your guts. Since I had been gluten free for most of a year, my gut had time to heal. Now I have to jack it up again so that the biopsy will show accurate results (namely: flattening/atrophy of the villi). The why is more complicated. I already had a positive serology test, so we pretty much know I have celiac. Problem is that I may have other issues (maybe crohns or ulcerative colitis). I just want to have the most accurate diagnosis possible so that I know what complications I'm at risk for and how to manage things.

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OK , I got it... thanks!

 

Good luck with the tests... hope is goes well!

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Celiac Log:  Day 6 of gluten challenge

 

I have discovered some wonderful new symptoms that I'd never had before.  Most of my symptoms were GI related in the past, with some "brain fog" thrown in.  During this challenge though, I have had the worst acid reflux combined with just crazy lightheadness/vertigo.  It's not all bad though.  I had the some rolls at Texas Roadhouse today for my daily gluten allotment.  I didn't realize how much I'd missed those.

 

Score:  Gluten 2  Me 0

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So....endocscopy and colonoscopy went well:  Pathology report will take a week or so, but the doc's initial findings are:

 

drum roll........

 

Celiac Disease (not a big surprise there)

and also Eosinophilic Esophagitis  (That was a new one on me)

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So....endocscopy and colonoscopy went well:  Pathology report will take a week or so, but the doc's initial findings are:

 

drum roll........

 

Celiac Disease (not a big surprise there)

and also Eosinophilic Esophagitis  (That was a new one on me)

 

 

Welcome to the family, Dear Deekle. 

 

(none of us are surprised either) Sorry. hon. But this is a chance to get well and stay well. !!

 

EoE is often secondary and may very well resolve on its own OFF GLUTEN.

 

Please read Real Life with Celiac Disease by Melinda Dennis and Daniel Leffler.

 

I know you're busy with med school---and have tons to read already---but it will be something you can appreciate and you'll gain some more insight..

 

We're here for you. :)  Dump gluten (and dairy for a few months) and be well.

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Glad you were able to get some answers Deekle :)  Time to let yourself heal up!

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I was reading your gluten challenge and then, when you stopped, I knew. 

 

Glad you have a diagnosis. It's a new life for sure. Just think of all the energy you'll have to study, study, study!!

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I am glad to hear you got your definitive diagnosis and wish all the best for your recovery!  Sorry, to hear that you have celiac.  I hope you can scrounge up some time to rest and learn what to do.

 

Dee

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This is slightly off post, but what other problems can cause villous atrophy other than celiac?

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This is slightly off post, but what other problems can cause villous atrophy other than celiac?

You may want to start a new thread for your question.  You will get more responses from the Community.

 

Colleen

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This might be a totally stupid question, but how can your insurance claim your "symptoms" are a pre-existing condition if it wasn't diagnosed until recently? Do they have a Magic 8 Ball and knew you would some day get a diagnosis for your symptoms? Are they psychic?

 

BTW, welcome to the club.  I was hoping you were still doing your challenge and I could ask you to eat a blueberry donut for me lol

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Hello everyone!

 

I am a new member to these forums, though I have been using celiac.com for the last year or so.  This might get long so if you're not interested, feel free to skip this post.  My saga of celiac disease started more than 8 years ago when the er...shall we say..."digestive product expulsion problems" started.  I had a couple of doctors tell me it was "irritable bowel syndrome" or "Spastic colon" and so for the next 8 years I figured I was just blessed to have a colon that did not like me very much. 

 

In 2012 I was accepted to medical school and started my medical training.  Our third unit was titled "ERG" - Endocrine, Reproductive and Gastrointestinal.   About half-way through the unit we did a case study on Celiac disease.  As we read through the case I started realizing that we were talking about ME!  This is not an abnormal reaction.  Med students think they have the diseases that they read about all the time, so I did what I like to call "The great Captain Crunch experiment of 2012".  First I went completely gluten free for a week.  (Important to note:  this is not enough time to regenerate damaged villi, but it is enough time for me to safely assume that anything in my intestines at the time of the experiment should have been gluten free.)  At this point I was still thinking that maybe I was lactose intolerant.   At the end of the week I had a giant bowl of Captain Crunch with Crunchberries (of course) and milk.  BOOM!  hours later the bloating hit....the gas hit...the earth shattering colonic explosion hit.  I went gluten free for another week.  Next time, I ate my Captain Crunch without milk.   Same result.  I was convinced.

 

Next step:  Diagnosis.  This is the tough part.  First I had to convince the doc that I wasn't just another crazy med student.  Then we had to talk about what to do.  Turns out since I'd been having "problems" for 8 years or so, this was a pre-existing condition, so a referral to GI would not be covered by my school insurance.  Blood tests would be fine though.  My Gliadin IgA was more than 2x the reference range and the Transglutaminiase IgA levels were also very elevated.  It was really looking like I had Celiac Disease, but the gold standard of diagnosis is a biopsy.

 

I went gluten free anyway.  Things have been pretty good for the last year.  I still have some issues, but not anything close to what I'd had before what my friends call "The Wheat Butt"  wake up.  I am finally going to get my biopsy on April 4, but am very certain that Celiac at the very least is on the table and am just hoping not to have any additional diagnoses (Crohn's) to add with it. 

 

Anyway, just thought I'd introduce myself since I plan on sticking around.

 

Deekle

33M - Illinois

Hey!

I went through the same exact process going through the list of differential diagnoses throughout the years and finally learning about celiacs in school, except I started pharmacy school in 2012. I assume you have also become the case study in the majority of your class discussion as I have as well! It had been about a year since my blood levels came back and several months since my endoscopy to confirm the diagnosis. I still feel as though I am stuck in the 'trial and error' phase of determining exactly how sensitive I am as far as cross contamination from cutting boards, spices, plates, etc. Has that been the same for you as well?

 

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