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#1 CR5442

 
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 07:39 AM

I know it sounds nutty but I've been feeling off and bloated, puffy, poorly tummy and generally just not me over the last couple of months.  The only change i have made is eating starch in the form of potato crisps, some corn/rice pasta, plain white rice even though my acupuncturist says I can tolerate all of those.  The only thing I can think of is something to do with the starch.

 

Does anyone else have this... or a similar reaction?  I have been starch free for the last 24 hours and even though I am starving hungry I feel much less puffy and toxic.


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 07:58 AM

There are plenty of intolerances that any of us can have that have nothing to do with gluten. It is entirely possible that you can't tolerate potatoes, or corn, or rice, or nightshades, or grains. It may be a challenge to figure out which it is but it sounds like it's one of those for sure. (Also unrelated, but unless your acupuncturist is also a dietitian or nutritionist they aren't likely the best source of dietary advice regarding celiac and acceptable foods.)


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 08:03 AM

There are plenty of intolerances that any of us can have that have nothing to do with gluten. It is entirely possible that you can't tolerate potatoes, or corn, or rice, or nightshades, or grains. It may be a challenge to figure out which it is but it sounds like it's one of those for sure. (Also unrelated, but unless your acupuncturist is also a dietitian or nutritionist they aren't likely the best source of dietary advice regarding celiac and acceptable foods.)

I get what your saying ,but she does pulse tests on me which tell her whether or not I can tolerate foods... she has been spot on with everything else. It might be SIBO or a virus perhaps that's feeding off the starch?


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 08:09 AM

I noticed trouble (for me) with corn starch before I realized my celiac trouble.  I think it may be hard to digest.  I also have discovered that I don't tolerate potatoes and several other starchy foods.  These intolerances are not celiac, but for me it goes along with leaky gut.  Have you considered if you might have a yeast infection?  Yeast feed on such foods, so it might be worth considering.  I am hoping I may get these starchy foods back as my digestion improves.

 

Starch bloats me.

 

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Posted 15 April 2014 - 08:45 AM

Yes, the yeast thing we check for regularly.  It's not showing at the moment but has done in the past. I think it may just be that too much starch my body cannot cope with digesting.  Am looking in to the SIBO possibility.


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 10:24 AM

There are plenty of intolerances that any of us can have that have nothing to do with gluten. It is entirely possible that you can't tolerate potatoes, or corn, or rice, or nightshades, or grains. It may be a challenge to figure out which it is but it sounds like it's one of those for sure. (Also unrelated, but unless your acupuncturist is also a dietitian or nutritionist they aren't likely the best source of dietary advice regarding celiac and acceptable foods.)

 

I agree. The best way most of us here have determined what foods work for us or do not work is to eliminate the food to see if we feel better. You might want to try each food you suspect to be the culprit on different days and see how you feel. It can be challenging to figure it out, but it's really worth it when you start to feel better.

 

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 12:48 PM

Are you referring to starch in general or Codex Wheat Starch?  Codex is considered safe but many, many of us react to it. I wouldn't touch it with someone else's hand.


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:03 PM

No, starch in foods.  I've been off most starch except 1 Banana now for nearly three days and feel very hungry but much much better, much less achey and toxic feeling.  I've been eating potatoes, rice, rice and corn pasta... all gluten free.  I'm not intolerant to any of these (the IgG test even didn't show them up), so the only thing I can think of is something to do with the starch.  Could it be Mast Cell activation?  How would that happen?


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 05:20 AM

perhaps you need a digestive enzyme aimed at starch?


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 10:40 AM

My wife has Celiac and it looks like also has a corn allergy. Reading up on it, it seems that celiac and corn allergy is pretty common.  You might try some time cutting out corn (Warning: It's really really hard to do... glucose, dextrose, corn starch, corn syrup...) 

 

If you can manage to eliminate Corn for a few weeks, and you're still having this problem... at least you know it's not corn!  :wacko:


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 10:49 AM

Glucose and dextrose are highly refined sugars and will not contain any protein. They will not trigger an allergic reaction.
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Posted 19 April 2014 - 03:52 PM

I get what your saying ,but she does pulse tests on me which tell her whether or not I can tolerate foods... 

 

 

 

There does not seem to be any evidence this is a valid allergy test,  hon. I cannot find any Pub Med articles that say it's legit.

 

http://www.foodaller...ment.doc?id=238


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 12:11 AM

No I agree Irish Heart but at the same time I have had formal IgG tests which came back negative with things I know make me really sick like chocolate, GLUTEN, Eggs, soya, fish, dairy etc etc.  The pulse tests did diagnose these, though the IgG test didn't, so I kind of trust the pulse better.  Interestingly the dairy did not show up on the pulse test first time because I hadn't eaten any for months, then showed up when I had eaten it for a few months.  And the IgG test came up positive for that because I was eating it at the time.  So even if there are no papers (which I'm sure there are if you look at different terms rather than pulse) it 100% does work for me.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 12:31 AM

http://www.pharmacol...e/histamine.htm

If you scroll down to Organ system effects you'll see that with histamine release the entire cardiovascular system is affected, including blood pressure.  Here and article stipulates that IgG can also have an anaphylaxis type response.  http://www.usbiotek....ticalReview.pdf  I'm sure that many of us have eaten some foods then found it difficult to breathe, had asthma type symptoms, then poorly tummy, I know I have!  I don't think it is as simple as saying that a pulse test is ineffective and unproven, when you look at the whole body changes for both IgE and IgG reactions - particularly bad ones such as the reactions a lot of us may be experiencing.

 

BTW, the pulse test is not as simple as detecting a raise in pulse (which is common when we eat food), it is more complex.  Often when I'm tested for a food my pulse will slow down or even completely disappear - such as happened when my daughter just held a food that she extremely allergic to (she was in A&E with the last oral ingestion reaction) up against her cheek in a plastic bag!  The tests had to be stopped for 10 minutes because her pulse just disappeared.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 07:52 AM

No I agree Irish Heart but at the same time I have had formal IgG tests which came back negative with things I know make me really sick like chocolate, GLUTEN, Eggs, soya, fish, dairy etc etc. 

 

That's because IgG test for food intolerances are also invalid,. hon.

 

"There is no credible evidence that measuring IgG antibodies is useful for diagnosing food allergy or intolerance, nor that IgG antibodies cause symptoms. In fact, IgG antibodies reflect exposure to allergen but not the presence of disease. The exception is that gliadin IgG antibodies are sometimes useful in monitoring adherence to a gluten-free diet patients with histologically confirmed coeliac disease. Otherwise, inappropriate use of food allergy testing  (or misinterpretation of results) in patients with inhalant allergy, for example, may lead to inappropriate and unnecessary dietary restrictions, with particular nutritional implications in children. Despite studies showing the uselessness of this technique, it continues to be promoted in the community, even for diagnosing disorders for which no evidence of immune system involvement exists."

 

 

 

Maybe you should read through the science of testing:

 

http://www.scienceba...he-science-say/


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