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#16 CR5442

 
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Posted 20 April 2014 - 09:16 AM

Honestly.. (please don't take umbrage at this), the 'science' community has so many holes in it, it is reminiscent of a sieve.  You should have a listen to all the interviews with the top Gluten scientists/researchers and professors from the Gluten Summit last year.  Where does the quote from above come from?  From the Science of testing link you put below.  

 

You cannot take as given what anyone in the formal healthcare chain says.  A good example is my son reacting to egg 7 hours after eating it when he was 7 months old.  The NHS consultant said it could not have been an allergic reaction to egg as it was too long in manifesting (second exposure btw), then when my daughter had her near anaphylaxis to something she ate the A&E doctor said explicitly that it was likely something she ate whilst she was away from home with her Dad, which was over 36 hours previously.  I questioned her on this and she said that it is very common in children to have this delayed kind of reaction... so who am I meant to believe, the consultant, who technically should know everything, or the A&E doctor who was younger and very aware of the constant discoveries in the field of IgE and IgG allergies.  I actually said that I was IgG sensitive to a number of foods, to which she said... well that is allergy.  And yet another doctor, on asking for my daughter to be properly tested for this compound, said IgG was also allergy.  I have had two conformations in different forms of my IgG allergy to milk and since eliminating it have felt 100% better... one was pulse and the other was IgG protein sensitivity assay.  My ex. boyfriend had a really rough day at Christmas a year ago, felt like he was going to have a heart attack.  Two months later he did the IgG test and guess what he reacts to?  TURKEY!  Traditional medical science is very keen to lambast theories on IgG testing... and in a way I agree it is not 100% effective because if you eliminate a food you won't get a reaction - as my GP told me numerous times so it missed a raft of my sensitivities... which were picked up by the acupuncturist.  

 

And as for limiting children's food.... I don't do that, I just go with my instinct with my two.  If they avidly don't want to eat something, I think that often that is a sign they can't handle that particular food, if they have an allergic reaction that food is out, if they can't poop while they drink milk, I experiment by taking that out and challenging it.  My kids are not great eaters, as I suspect and have yet to confirm that they both suffer from eating gluten, but I haven't cut it completely out of their diets yet because I don't want them getting the severe exposure symptoms that I get.  Mother's gut instinct is very often right.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 09:48 AM

You did not even read the article I linked to or you would have read all the credible various sources included in it, so I guess I will just say "ok, I tried".

 

As for the gluten summit--the doctors I find most credible out of that group of people are  Fasano and Hadjivassilou. Dr. F -and every credible celiac center there is--- says the same thing: There are no valid IgG food sensitivity tests. 

 

Other testing (hair analysis, live blood cell testing, kinesiology, pulse testing, muscle testing) has absolutely zero evidence backing it, except the word of practitioners who utilize it.

 

But if you say it works for you, then, I can't argue against that at all. Nor would I. 

 

I am just trying to tell you what evidence there IS out there so you have a balanced view..

 

But, you have your opinion about what works, so I will just leave it at that. Best wishes to you!


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 10:24 AM

The gluten summit had some "real" researchers and some internet celebrities selling unproven tests and products.  I think it is up to everyone to look at the credentials & even use some common sense.  My favorite are these tests where you are blindfolded and hold a sealed container of a food & they claim you have a reaction to the food - how does that even make sense?  You aren't eating it, touching it or smelling it. Sounds like one of those games you play at a sleepover.   :D

 

Anyway, I would never recommend these fringe treatments/test/practitioners until there is some real proof that they work.  The part that bothers me are the people who really don't understand the body or the science behind how some of these things work or don't work.  They see a shiny website or office and people who act like they care about their health.  I feel they are getting taken advantage of.  I wish the US would regulate some of this nonsense.  they regulate a lot of other things....

 

Rant over - if removing a food makes you feel better - that is a good indicator that it might not be right for you however you came to that conclusion.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 10:34 AM

 

I Often when I'm tested for a food my pulse will slow down or even completely disappear - such as happened when my daughter just held a food that she extremely allergic to (she was in A&E with the last oral ingestion reaction) up against her cheek in a plastic bag!  The tests had to be stopped for 10 minutes because her pulse just disappeared.

 

 

I just re-read this.  Not sure how I didn't catch this the first time - Are you saying your child had no pulse?  Dead?  No one called an ambulance?  Did someone do CPR?  I am sorry but this whole thing isn't really adding up anymore. At first I thought you were someone with real health issues, but now I am getting the feeling you might be playing with us.  No one lets a kid's pulse stop and calmly waits 10 minutes and it miraculously starts again (which can actually happen but usually requires CPR or some intervention) and then continues food allergy tests.  Please tell me I miss-understood or you made a typo....


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#20 CR5442

 
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Posted 20 April 2014 - 10:46 AM

I'm too tired to respond to your comments above.  It works for me. I don't come on here to be questioned on my tests and how i go about getting an idea of what I can and can't eat, I came on here to ask if anyone has problems with starch and inflammation/itchiness possible IgG type reactions.  I guess now you'll be telling me that because I haven't had a biopsy I should eat gluten.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 10:46 AM

BTW, in chinese medicine a pulse disappearing, means it is faint... my daughter was not DEAD.  Please stop being so melodramatic.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 10:55 AM

I've decided to leave this forum because nobody ever really listens to what the problem is and provides useful answers.  Everyone seems to want to prove what they know is over and above everyone else.  It is not conducive to healing, or healthy conversation, or progress in the physical problems that a lot of us are left with.  Good luck to you all and perhaps just answer the question next time.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 11:01 AM

BTW, in chinese medicine a pulse disappearing, means it is faint... my daughter was not DEAD.  Please stop being so melodramatic.


IF someone told me a person has no pulse or even a very faint pulse - I would be scared and seek immediate medical attention.
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Posted 24 April 2014 - 12:15 PM

Glucose and dextrose are highly refined sugars and will not contain any protein. They will not trigger an allergic reaction.

Peter,

 

Great to know!  We've been trying to sort out which corn byproducts to be careful of. 

Do you have a sense of which corn based products to steer clear of?  Corn Meal, Corn Flour, and Corn Starch most obviously.

 

Thanks!  


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