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I'm wondering how everyone else deals emotionally with setbacks you encounter during your recovery?

 

I've been doing so well for over a month...yay!  I was diagnosed in January, had a rough beginning.  But for a little over a month was doing great.  I would talk about how good I was feeling, how I hadn't even realized how bad it had been until I saw all of the improvements,  I felt like I really got the label reading, cooking, etc. down.  I was exercising again.

 

And then last Wednesday I started feeling bad again.  By Thursday I was doing the run to the bathroom up to 15 times a day...exhausted...foggy...headache. All of the usual stuff.  I analyzed everything that I had eaten and realized that I had added 2 things into my eating that I hadn't had....almond flour and Ghiradelli chocolate chips.  I bought the chips because a recipe called for bittersweet and I didn't see any from Nestle.  Looking into it I see that they are made in a shared facility.  So, I guess I got too confident, didn't check something out and am suffering for it.  :(

 

I am having a really difficult time with this emotionally.  I feel mad and sad and all of that stuff.  The setbacks in this journey of celiac disease are so harsh and devastating.  They take such a toll.

 

How do you deal with it?  Get through it?

 

Thanks!

 

 

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It is okay to feel all those things -- can't imagine any of us didn't go through rough patches during the early days and beyond.

 

You feel crappy, but this will improve. 

 

For now, lots of water and rest when you are able -- treat yourself to something (non-food) that you love.  A nice bath, a good movie...a walk with music I love blaring in my ears are things that help adjust my attitude. 

 

Hang in there...it gets better, but not always as quickly as we'd like :)

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I can relate. I think we all have been there. Avoiding gluten is such a learning curve, but it doable. I think it is worse when you have glutened someone else. My husband was gluten free years before me. I glutened him plenty of times! Even with my experience, I have glutened myself!

Grieving is a given. It is a lot to give up and I am not talking food but the freedom to walk into any restaurant and order anything without grilling the waitress. I have done a lot of grieving this year. First for celiac disease, then for my vertebrae fractures that occurred from doing nothing (celiac disease related) and recently diabetes.

You will start to feel better soon. Have a cup of tea or coffee and baby yourself this week.

I am going for that second cup!

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Set backs happen even when you do everything right. Those first six months can be a real up and down roller coaster ride as you body starts to get well. I had a big set back after being gluten-free for a few months, and it really brought me down, but I waited it out and came out healthier... if not quite fed up.  LOL

 

Hang in there. I'm betting that by the end of the summer, it will be pretty smooth sailing for you. :)

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It is okay to feel all those things -- can't imagine any of us didn't go through rough patches during the early days and beyond.

 

You feel crappy, but this will improve. 

 

For now, lots of water and rest when you are able -- treat yourself to something (non-food) that you love.  A nice bath, a good movie...a walk with music I love blaring in my ears are things that help adjust my attitude. 

 

Hang in there...it gets better, but not always as quickly as we'd like :)

Thanks, Lisa.  I sure hope it gets better.  It was such a good feeling when I saw all the improvement that this just threw me way off.

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Thanks, Lisa.  I sure hope it gets better.  It was such a good feeling when I saw all the improvement that this just threw me way off.

 

It will :)

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Set backs happen even when you do everything right. Those first six months can be a real up and down roller coaster ride as you body starts to get well. I had a big set back after being gluten-free for a few months, and it really brought me down, but I waited it out and came out healthier... if not quite fed up.  LOL

 

Hang in there. I'm betting that by the end of the summer, it will be pretty smooth sailing for you. :)

That's good to hear.  :)  It is certainly a roller coaster ride...an exhausting one!  How long did it take you to get through your big setback?  How long until you felt really good on a regular basis?

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I can relate. I think we all have been there. Avoiding gluten is such a learning curve, but it doable. I think it is worse when you have glutened someone else. My husband was gluten free years before me. I glutened him plenty of times! Even with my experience, I have glutened myself!

Grieving is a given. It is a lot to give up and I am not talking food but the freedom to walk into any restaurant and order anything without grilling the waitress. I have done a lot of grieving this year. First for celiac disease, then for my vertebrae fractures that occurred from doing nothing (celiac disease related) and recently diabetes.

You will start to feel better soon. Have a cup of tea or coffee and baby yourself this week.

I am going for that second cup!

I really want to baby myself and just crawl in bed under a blanket.  I've got 3 kids including a 2 year old, so I get very little chance to do that.  Another cup of tea is definitely coming up right now though. 

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I'm wondering how everyone else deals emotionally with setbacks you encounter during your recovery?

 

I've been doing so well for over a month...yay!  I was diagnosed in January, had a rough beginning.  But for a little over a month was doing great.  I would talk about how good I was feeling, how I hadn't even realized how bad it had been until I saw all of the improvements,  I felt like I really got the label reading, cooking, etc. down.  I was exercising again.

 

And then last Wednesday I started feeling bad again.  By Thursday I was doing the run to the bathroom up to 15 times a day...exhausted...foggy...headache. All of the usual stuff.  I analyzed everything that I had eaten and realized that I had added 2 things into my eating that I hadn't had....almond flour and Ghiradelli chocolate chips.  I bought the chips because a recipe called for bittersweet and I didn't see any from Nestle.  Looking into it I see that they are made in a shared facility.  So, I guess I got too confident, didn't check something out and am suffering for it.  :(

 

I am having a really difficult time with this emotionally.  I feel mad and sad and all of that stuff.  The setbacks in this journey of celiac disease are so harsh and devastating.  They take such a toll.

 

How do you deal with it?  Get through it?

 

Thanks!

I highly doubt that there was any gluten in the chocolate chips.  Ghirardelli does an excellent job during manufacturing and I eat these same ones every time I make cookies and have never gotten sick once in 9 years gluten-free.  I am an extremely sensitive celiac also.  You have not been gluten-free for very long at all......and these chocolate chips are very rich so maybe your system just couldn't handle it right now.  You will find that you may have reactions in the beginning for awhile with foods that are on the rich side and do not contain gluten.  I consider Ghirardelli one of the safest companies out there for gluten free chocolate.  Plus, shared facility is different than shared lines.

 

I hope you feel better but do not sweat this at all.  It is not a setback, just a little blip in the big scheme of things.  You will continue to heal but have to accept that once in a while, something will not agree with you and it will take more than 4 months to feel tons better.  This is what we all go through and it will get better.  Now go and have another cuppa tea!  :)

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I hope you feel better but do not sweat this at all.  It is not a setback, just a little blip in the big scheme of things.  You will continue to heal but have to accept that once in a while, something will not agree with you and it will take more than 4 months to feel tons better.  This is what we all go through and it will get better.  Now go and have another cuppa tea!  :)

 

I like that - it is not really a setback but just a blip... well put. :)

 

 

That's good to hear.  :)  It is certainly a roller coaster ride...an exhausting one!  How long did it take you to get through your big setback?  How long until you felt really good on a regular basis?

 

My blip was a return to fatigue, hair loss and a major bout of joint pain. It hit me at about 2 months gluten free and was done within about 3 months. It was a nasty one, but on the bright side it was my last nasty bout of pain.  I have had a few mild blips since then, in fact my fingers have been bothering me for a few weeks now, but it is no where near as severe as that last blip, or ones I had while still consuming gluten.

 

At 6-9 months gluten-free, I was feeling quite a bit better. Since that time, I my health improvements have slowed a fair bit, but it is still much better than I was three years ago.

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I like that - it is not really a setback but just a blip... well put. :)

 

 

 

My blip was a return to fatigue, hair loss and a major bout of joint pain. It hit me at about 2 months gluten free and was done within about 3 months. It was a nasty one, but on the bright side it was my last nasty bout of pain.  I have had a few mild blips since then, in fact my fingers have been bothering me for a few weeks now, but it is no where near as severe as that last blip, or ones I had while still consuming gluten.

 

At 6-9 months gluten-free, I was feeling quite a bit better. Since that time, I my health improvements have slowed a fair bit, but it is still much better than I was three years

 

Thank you for sharing that...it's nice to hear that kind of stuff because it gives me hope.

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I highly doubt that there was any gluten in the chocolate chips.  Ghirardelli does an excellent job during manufacturing and I eat these same ones every time I make cookies and have never gotten sick once in 9 years gluten-free.  I am an extremely sensitive celiac also.  You have not been gluten-free for very long at all......and these chocolate chips are very rich so maybe your system just couldn't handle it right now.  You will find that you may have reactions in the beginning for awhile with foods that are on the rich side and do not contain gluten.  I consider Ghirardelli one of the safest companies out there for gluten free chocolate.  Plus, shared facility is different than shared lines.

 

I hope you feel better but do not sweat this at all.  It is not a setback, just a little blip in the big scheme of things.  You will continue to heal but have to accept that once in a while, something will not agree with you and it will take more than 4 months to feel tons better.  This is what we all go through and it will get better.  Now go and have another cuppa tea!  :)

First off, love that you called it a blip.  :)   I will now be using that to talk about it too.

 

Interesting about Ghiradelli...I just couldn't figure out what else it could have been...so I guess I assumed.  I just want to know so I don't do it again, ya know.  I don't really want another blip.  I've felt bad for 6 days now.  Ugh!

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First off, love that you called it a blip.  :)   I will now be using that to talk about it too.

 

Interesting about Ghiradelli...I just couldn't figure out what else it could have been...so I guess I assumed.  I just want to know so I don't do it again, ya know.  I don't really want another blip.  I've felt bad for 6 days now.  Ugh!

Are you sensitive to dairy also?  I am not sure if the bittersweet contains dairy but that's another possibility.  I would wait before trying any rich chocolate....at least until you feel better.  I know how frustrating that can be but the good news is that, after time, you should be able to tolerate these types of foods again.  I have been gluten-free for 9 years now so can tolerate so much more than in the beginning.  It did not take 9 years to do that, either, so don't panic.  ;)  You will also bounce back faster, if you do take a hit or eat something that makes you feel off.  A Celiac's tummy is just more sensitive and sometimes, for unknown reasons, things bother us.  I hate that too! 

 

Feel better soon!

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you might want to try a food journal for a little while :)  i found it very helpful, even to identify sources of irritation other than gluten.  plus, when i did get hit (alot!  in the beginning) it helped me track my symptoms/to know what to expect.   (for the next time ha ha)    lots of water, naps........  feel better :)

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I still recall when I was not doing so well during the first year (off and on) and Gemini would tell me "it's just a blip"

and then we would talk about other things and laugh. Since then, we have become the very best of friends, so I will say this:

Listen to this wise woman!

 

Blips pass. I promise, it gets better.  Take it from a former serial  "blip girl".... :D

 

Be good to yourself. As Ski says, lots of water, rest when you can and know that you are already recovering.

Onward and upward.

 

P.S. If it makes you feel any better, when I get hit (and we all do--even the veterans!) it passes more quickly than it did at the beginning. (still hate the joint pain and the hair loss--but that's just my "special thing" from our nemesis gluten)

 

Hang tough, kiddo.

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Hi icelandgirl,

I'm still pretty new to this too, and I had a bad "blip" at 3 1/2 months that lasted about 2 months. It was sooo frustrating and I was pretty upset about it. Then one Sunday morning I woke up and miraculously felt better and now at 7 months, I am still feeling pretty darn good. The vets here told me similar things they are telling you, and it helped so much to know this is normal for some people and that relief is in sight.

I do know that some of the foods I was eating were causing me problems at that time, so that is definitely something to watch for, but the good news is I can eat most of those foods now in moderation.

I hope you feel better soon :)

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Hi icelandgirl,

I'm still pretty new to this too, and I had a bad "blip" at 3 1/2 months that lasted about 2 months. It was sooo frustrating and I was pretty upset about it. Then one Sunday morning I woke up and miraculously felt better and now at 7 months, I am still feeling pretty darn good. The vets here told me similar things they are telling you, and it helped so much to know this is normal for some people and that relief is in sight.

I do know that some of the foods I was eating were causing me problems at that time, so that is definitely something to watch for, but the good news is I can eat most of those foods now in moderation.

I hope you feel better soon :)

Hi icelandgirl,

I'm still pretty new to this too, and I had a bad "blip" at 3 1/2 months that lasted about 2 months. It was sooo frustrating and I was pretty upset about it. Then one Sunday morning I woke up and miraculously felt better and now at 7 months, I am still feeling pretty darn good. The vets here told me similar things they are telling you, and it helped so much to know this is normal for some people and that relief is in sight.

I do know that some of the foods I was eating were causing me problems at that time, so that is definitely something to watch for, but the good news is I can eat most of those foods now in moderation.

I hope you feel better soon :)

Hi havanesemom...Thank you for the encouraging words. I do feel discouraged at this point...but everyone on here really lifted me up today.

Do you know what caused your bad blip? 2 months is a long time...which foods were causing you issues if you don't mind sharing? I'm pretty much living on bananas, tea and potatoes at this point. I'm like stupid auto immune disease...but that really doesn't help with anything.

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Are you sensitive to dairy also?  I am not sure if the bittersweet contains dairy but that's another possibility.  I would wait before trying any rich chocolate....at least until you feel better.  I know how frustrating that can be but the good news is that, after time, you should be able to tolerate these types of foods again.  I have been gluten-free for 9 years now so can tolerate so much more than in the beginning.  It did not take 9 years to do that, either, so don't panic.  ;)  You will also bounce back faster, if you do take a hit or eat something that makes you feel off.  A Celiac's tummy is just more sensitive and sometimes, for unknown reasons, things bother us.  I hate that too! 

 

Feel better soon!

Hi Gemini...Thank you for sharing your wisdom. I haven't felt any sensitivity to dairy...which I'm glad about. Which other foods did you have trouble with.

You've been gluten free for 9 years! Wow...how long after starting until you felt good on a regular basis? Do you still have blips? Is that just an inevitable part of the disease?

Thank you again!

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you might want to try a food journal for a little while :)  i found it very helpful, even to identify sources of irritation other than gluten.  plus, when i did get hit (alot!  in the beginning) it helped me track my symptoms/to know what to expect.   (for the next time ha ha)    lots of water, naps........  feel better :)

I like the food journal idea quite a bit...thanks for that suggestion!

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I still recall when I was not doing so well during the first year (off and on) and Gemini would tell me "it's just a blip"

and then we would talk about other things and laugh. Since then, we have become the very best of friends, so I will say this:

Listen to this wise woman!

 

Blips pass. I promise, it gets better.  Take it from a former serial  "blip girl".... :D

 

Be good to yourself. As Ski says, lots of water, rest when you can and know that you are already recovering.

Onward and upward.

 

P.S. If it makes you feel any better, when I get hit (and we all do--even the veterans!) it passes more quickly than it did at the beginning. (still hate the joint pain and the hair loss--but that's just my "special thing" from our nemesis gluten)

 

Hang tough, kiddo.

This is what I love about this board...There is so much caring and compassion here...and wonderful people ready to share their wisdom...Thank you. A celiac bff sounds like what I nees. :)

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Hi Again,

Sorry the quote function doesn't work for me on this computer.

To answer your question about if I know what caused the blip, I don't know for sure what caused that 2 month blip. Some of the foods that were bothering me were certified gluten free corn based cereals, corn pasta, tea, broccoli, tomato, anything spicy, chocolate, dairy and I know there are more I am forgetting (I still have brain fog and memory issues, but I'm ok with that). My GI doctor recommend the low FODMAP diet and I think that help reset my system too. I only did it strictly for a couple of weeks, so that wasn't too bad at all. I was also pretty stressed out about my diagnosis at that time, so that didn't help my gut either. I wish I had a specific answer for you, but it could have been anything that caused it and maybe was just part of my healing process. I actually thought about not writing that my blip it lasted 2 months because I didn't want to discourage you. For the record I am a generally a very slow healer, so hopefully your blip will be over really quickly :).

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This is what I love about this board...There is so much caring and compassion here...and wonderful people ready to share their wisdom...Thank you. A celiac bff sounds like what I nees. :)

 

 

I have been fortunate to acquire many celiac BFFs...and you will to!  :) Just hang in there. Recovery is the mother of all exercises in patience.

....but healing happens. 

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This board and members like Gem and Irish was a major part of me figuring out a rather complex puzzle.

 

I had a little Blip yesterday afternoon -- I have them often, not from gluten but other sources -- last night sucked -- today I'm sore, but much better.

 

Nice long epsom salt/baking soda soak to start the day - which will proceed slowly with lots of water ;)

 

Hang in there :)

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Thank you all for your kind words and encouragement. Hearing your stories helps me so much. Emotionally I feel so much better.

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Hi Gemini...Thank you for sharing your wisdom. I haven't felt any sensitivity to dairy...which I'm glad about. Which other foods did you have trouble with.

You've been gluten free for 9 years! Wow...how long after starting until you felt good on a regular basis? Do you still have blips? Is that just an inevitable part of the disease?

Thank you again!

I did very well on the gluten-free diet and then at the 2 year mark, that's when the dairy problem became evident.  I did not figure this out sooner because my gut was totally trashed at diagnosis so I probably didn't notice the fact that dairy was becoming a problem until I had healed a bit.  That's a fairly common thing to happen to us.  So...after 9 years, I am dairy lite.  I can tolerate small amounts but it is also cumulative with me.  No drinking milk (which I do not like anyway), no ice cream or puddings....things like that.  Don't even miss ice cream because who wants to live in the bathroom every time you eat some?  The cramping from it is pretty bad.  I still heven't gotten diary totally back so at this point, I have given up and am fine with that.  I would rather feel good.

 

I steadily felt better, with no major set backs in the beginning, because I ate a mainly whole foods diet with some bread and a few goodies thrown in because I was 20 pounds underweight when diagnosed.  I really needed to plump up.  But it was 3 years in total before the very last symptom disappeared.  My gut felt good but I had this leg pain in my right femur bone that was so bad, I was limping.  Had x-rays and there was no arthritis at all.  No one could explain it.  So, I did what I always do and just soldiered on until one day I woke up and reliazed my leg was not hurting anymore.  I think it might have been some neuro thing or vitamin deficiency that finally resolved because it has never returned.

 

I have to say that I rarely have blips at all anymore.  I am very careful, take no unnecessary chances when dining out and do that infrequently anyway.  It is a treat when we go out.  I hate getting glutened because I am one of those who erupt like a volcano.  :unsure:   The whole GI tract explodes and I get sick as a dog for about 1-2 days.  I am back to normal by day 4 but it wipes me out so I try to avoid it like the plague.  I really hate being sick.  But steadily, over time, I have gained 20 pounds and work out in the gym to develop those muscles that never had the chance to develop.  I actually have osteoporosis in my spine and osteopenia in my hip from Celiac, so that is the reason I weight train.

 

It is hard to believe it in the beginning of your Celiac life that you really can gain your health back and be comfortable and feel well but it does require time.  Of course, I do have other autoimmune problems from going so long without a diagnosis but I manage them well and do not take much medication. I am a firm believer in eating healthy, not cheating, exercise and don't forget to laugh often.  I do not let the medical world control or have too much input in what I do because I don't always believe they do the right things.  They tend to scare people. Yeah, so what, I have 4 AI diseases. I will never let that stop me or slow me down and just think positive. Even my doctor admits I am doing well and do a good job of managing things and really, with some education, anyone can achieve the same. Learn all you can, over time,so mistakes can be minimized.  It is not inevitable that you will feel badly more often than you feel good with Celiac.  Maybe in the beginning while you heal but not down the road.  Plus, after being gluten-free for so long, I am totally comfortable with this life and do not pine about foods I cannot eat. It is second nature to me and I would never go back.  You will feel this way too, I promise.  Go forward, not backward. If you are missing something food-wise, let us know because usually there is a good gluten-free version that someone will know about.  And, lastly, drink more tea.....I find that tea is so settling to the stomach.  The British have that right!  :)

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      But if you have been off of wheat for a period of weeks/months leading up to the testing it will likely turn out to be negative for celiac disease, even if you actually have celiac disease. Given your symptoms when consuming gluten, we certainly understand your reluctance to undergo  the "gluten challenge" before testing but you need to understand that the testing may be a waste of time if you don't. What are you going to do if it is negative for celiac disease? Are you going to go back to merrily eating wheat/barley/rye products while living in pain and destroying your health? You will be in a conundrum. Do I or do I not? And you will likely have a difficult time being consistent with your diet. Celiac disease causes inflammation to the small bowel villous lining when gluten containing grains are consumed. This inflammation produces certain antibodies that can be detected in the blood after they reach a certain level, which takes weeks or months after the onset of the disease. If gluten is stopped or drastically reduced, the inflammation begins to decrease and so do the antibodies. Before long, their low levels are not detectable by testing and the antibody blood tests done for diagnosing celiac disease will be negative. Over time, this inflammation wears down the billions of microscopic, finger-like projections that make up the lining and form the nutrient absorbing layer of the small bowel where all the nutrition in our food is absorbed. As the villi bet worn down, vitamin and mineral deficiencies typically develop because absorption is compromised. An endoscopy with biopsy of the small bowel lining to microscopically examine this damage is usually the second stage of celiac disease diagnosis. However, when people cut out gluten or cut back on it significantly ahead of time before the biopsy is done, the villous lining has already experienced some healing and the microscopic examination may be negative or inconclusive. I'm not trying to tell you what to do I just want you to understand what the consequences of going gluten free ahead of testing are as far as test results go so that you will either not waste your time in having the tests done or will be prepared for negative test results and the impact that will have on your dietary decisions. And, who are these "consultants" you keep talking about and what are their qualifications? You are in the unenviable position that many who joint this forum have found themselves in. Namely, having begun a gluten free diet before getting a proper diagnosis but unwilling to enter into the gluten challenge for valid testing because of the severity of the symptoms it would cause them.
    • Zackery Brian
      I'm sorry to hear about the challenges you've been facing with your health. Dealing with celiac disease and multiple food sensitivities can indeed be overwhelming. Here are a few thoughts and suggestions based on your experience and the replies you've received: Confirming Diagnosis: It's great that your gastroenterologist confirmed your celiac disease diagnosis through additional tests. Understanding the specifics of your condition can help tailor your approach to managing it more effectively. Food Sensitivity Testing: While blood tests for food sensitivities can provide some insights, they may not always be completely accurate. As mentioned by others, false positives are common, and individual responses to specific foods can vary. Discussing your test results and symptoms with a healthcare professional knowledgeable about celiac disease and food sensitivities can help clarify your situation. Research and Education: Exploring conditions like Mast Cell Activation Syndrome (MCAS) and histamine intolerance could shed further light on your symptoms and provide additional avenues for managing your health. Gathering information from reliable sources and discussing your findings with your healthcare team can help you make informed decisions about your care. Dietary Management: Managing celiac disease and multiple food sensitivities can be challenging, but finding a balance that works for you is crucial. Working with a dietitian who specializes in celiac disease and food intolerances can help you develop a personalized dietary plan that meets your nutritional needs while minimizing symptoms. Stress Management: Chronic pain and health issues can take a toll on mental and emotional well-being. Finding healthy coping strategies to manage stress, such as mindfulness, relaxation techniques, or engaging in activities you enjoy, may help improve your overall quality of life. Remember, you're not alone in your journey, and seeking support from healthcare professionals, support groups, or online communities can provide valuable encouragement and guidance.
    • Fluka66
      Thank you very much for your reply. I hadn't heard of celiac disease but began to notice a pattern of pain. I've been on the floor more than once with agonising pain but this was always put down to another abdominal problem consequently I've been on a roundabout of backwards and forwards with another consultant for many years. I originally questioned this diagnosis but was assured it was the reason for my pain. Many years later the consultant gave up and I had a new GP. I started to cut out certain food types ,reading packets then really started to cut out wheat and went lactose free. After a month I reintroduced these in one meal and ended screaming in agony the tearing and bloating pain. With this info and a swollen lymph node in my neck I went back to the GP.  I have a referral now . I have also found out that acidic food is causing the terrible pain . My thoughts are this is irritating any ulcers. I'm hoping that after a decade the outlook isn't all bad. My blood test came back with a high marker but I didn't catch what it was. My GP and I have agreed that I won't go back on wheat just for the test due to the pain , my swollen lymph node and blood test results.  Trying to remain calm for the referral and perhaps needed to be more forceful all those years ago but I'm not assertive and consultants can be overwhelming. Many thanks for your reply . Wishing you all the best.
    • Moodiefoodie
      Wow! Fascinating info. Thanks so much! I really appreciate the guidance. @Spacepanther Over the years I have had rheumatologists do full lab work ups on me. They told me they had screened me for arthritis, lupus, and Lyme disease (all negative). In addition to joint pain and stiffness I had swelling in both knees that later moved to my elbow as well.  I also experience stiffness and pain in my neck and shoulders when it flares. I vomited fairly often growing up, but there wasn’t a real pattern to it and I didn’t know it wasn’t normal (thought people caught stomach viruses often).  I don’t usually have stomach symptoms immediately after eating gluten that I notice.  The only other joint condition I know of is fibromyalgia. Good luck! Hope you can get it figured out. I only assumed my joint symptoms were due to the celiac’s because it is under control for the most part on a gluten-free diet.  The rheumatologist also mentioned that some inflammatory/autoimmune diseases can be slow-moving and not detectable until they progress.
    • knitty kitty
      @Spacepanther, I found these articles about the connection between Celiac and joint pain. Musculoskeletal Complications of Celiac Disease: A Case-Based Review https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10201087/ And   Intestinal microbiome composition and its relation to joint pain and inflammation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6814863/ And The gut microbiome-joint connection: implications in osteoarthritis https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6903327/ Sounds like it's time to change the diet to change the microbiome.
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