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Anyone Ever Been Glutened By Ground Beef?


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 06:05 AM

Did you thoroughly cook the meat and avoid cross contamination from raw meat juices to the cooked meal?  Have you tried eating just tomato sauce without the ground beef to see if your problems with tomatoes are recurring?

Everything was thoroughly cooked, and raw cross contamination avoided. I do think I have a recurring problem with tomatoes. 


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 06:08 AM

Plain grass fed beef is not going to contain gluten. I cannot imagine how it could possibly be CCed. 

 

 

In a pre-packaged product like I bought, I'm not sure how it would be cc'd either. However, I can definitely see how it might be cc'd if it's prepared in the grocery store. They also make other things that could contain gluten (think pre-seasoned patties, etc.)

 

But I think you're right that the tomatoes are the likely culprit.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 06:09 AM

Everything was thoroughly cooked, and raw cross contamination avoided. I do think I have a recurring problem with tomatoes. 

 

 

I know I do, which makes me sad...I like tomatoes and a lot of my cooking repertoire involves them too. sigh.

 

maybe in time, you can add them back in! I have been able to get most things back. Hang in there!


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 06:10 AM

Yes, I believe so - and it was some fancy 'brand' labeled Gluten Free.  No way to prove it, of course, but I've avoided that brand ever since.  Unfortunately, I can't remember the name, but it comes in a black based seal pack and has fancy seasoned flavors in addition to the plain one (which is what got me).

Interesting. This was a sealed pack, and I believe the back of it was black.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 06:13 AM

I know I do, which makes me sad...I like tomatoes and a lot of my cooking repertoire involves them too. sigh.

 

maybe in time, you can add them back in! I have been able to get most things back. Hang in there!

I'm sorry, IrishHeart! It's tough to have multiple food issues. I seem to have issues with all of the nightshades -- tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, and eggplant, and also with dairy and with most nuts. I'm hoping to get some of these back someday. I think (I hope) I just tried too soon.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 06:22 AM

Interesting. This was a sealed pack, and I believe the back of it was black.

I'll try and check on the name of the brand and post back.  I've always wondered how I got glutened by this, but if yours was the same that might explain it.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 06:23 AM

I'm sorry, IrishHeart! It's tough to have multiple food issues. I seem to have issues with all of the nightshades -- tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, and eggplant, and also with dairy and with most nuts. I'm hoping to get some of these back someday. I think (I hope) I just tried too soon.

 

No worries, now...I once had a very short list of "okay" foods....I even managed to get back eggs, which have given me grief for nearly my whole life!

and dairy....I lived without cheese,citrus, coffee, etc for nearly a year....got them all back. 

 

I still have a few that seem to "argue with me" lol.....but it's okay! I can't tolerate high histamines foods  or MSG or soy...but there is still plenty to eat and I gained a bunch of weight, (some I did not need! lol)

so..it's all good.

 

Just hang in there and healing will happen. 


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 04:31 PM

I haven't yet replaced my cookware. (I'm still pretty new to all this).  I wonder if that might be part of the problem. Using an acidic tomato sauce would be likely to loosen anything clinging to the pans or the wooden spoons.

 

If you replace anything first, go buy a pack of cheap spoons to replace those porous wooden spoons.  There can definitely be things hiding in there.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 04:40 PM

Nothing clings to pans after you give them a good wash, unless it has deep scratches.

 

I never use wooden utensils or cutting boards, "gluten worries "or otherwise. 

They are porous so they harbor odors and they  absorb everything and anything you put on them, including bacteria.

You may want to get some  heat -resistant silicone utensils.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 04:35 PM

My dad recently told me that contrary to popular belief, wood is best.  Quick search I saw this

 

http://health.ninems...spreading-germs


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 05:23 PM

My dad recently told me that contrary to popular belief, wood is best.  Quick search I saw this

 

http://health.ninems...spreading-germs

 

 

and any other quick search will give you this opinion:

 

A wood cutting board is the best for prepping fruits and vegetables. Keep one on your counter and clean and oil it often. For preparing raw proteins, we recommend a plastic board, which should be washed often, preferably in a dish washer. If you like using a cutting board for carving cooked meats, you'll want to have a third cutting board, or you could do so safely on your vegetable board as well.

We also love Epicurean boards, a brand of cutting boards that are made out of a material originally created for skate park surfaces. The cutting boards are made from a combination of different recycled materials including wood and plastic. These boards are safe on knives, safe in dishwashers and are completely nonporous, meaning no bacteria.

 

http://www.huffingto..._n_1335613.html

 

I went with Epicurian. but honestly, I mostly use the old paper plate option for daily use when slicing and dicing...safe, economical and no worries. 


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“If idiots could fly, the sky would be like an airport.”― Laura Davenport 

"Do or do not. There is no try. "-  Yoda.

"LTES"  Gem 2014

 

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 09:49 AM

Interesting. This was a sealed pack, and I believe the back of it was black.

You could have gotten cross contamination from seasonings in the flavored ones if they are processed/packaged on the same lines.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:49 AM

I'll try and check on the name of the brand and post back.  I've always wondered how I got glutened by this, but if yours was the same that might explain it.

 

Ok - I was in the same store today and I see that the patties were Murray's brand.  I've bought other things from them before and not had a problem, so I can't say for sure it was them -- or, as someone else said, maybe it was the seasonings.

 

Was it the same ones?


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 07:12 AM

Ok - I was in the same store today and I see that the patties were Murray's brand.  I've bought other things from them before and not had a problem, so I can't say for sure it was them -- or, as someone else said, maybe it was the seasonings.

 

Was it the same ones?

Nope. It was a pre-packaged (not made at the store) store brand. However, usually store brands are manufactured by someone else, so it's possible it could have come from the same place.

 

I bought another package of it, and I'm going to try it without the tomato sauce tonight. I'll let you know how it goes.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 12:24 PM

Nope. It was a pre-packaged (not made at the store) store brand. However, usually store brands are manufactured by someone else, so it's possible it could have come from the same place.

 

I bought another package of it, and I'm going to try it without the tomato sauce tonight. I'll let you know how it goes.

I was wondering if cross contamination could have occurred at the packaging plant. I would research all the brand names associated with that one and see if any of them make a pre-mixed meatloaf, or other thing that might have spices or even breadcrumbs in them. 


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