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Posted 07 November 2005 - 04:20 PM
I know this isn't about gluten free foods, but it is along the same lines...
I don't know if I'm lactose intolerant or if it's the casein in dairy, but growing up I've never really handled moderate amounts of dairy well. Thus, I don't like milk plain at all, and will only use it for coffee or cereal, especially since I've given up my oatmeal since going gluten free!  I've found some gluten free cereals I really like, so naturally I'm driinking more milk than normal. Other than that, that's pretty much the only dairy I consume, and I prefer skim milk.
Since drinking more milk, I've noticed some downright foul gas, and am open to other milk alternatives. I went to Whole Foods today to look at the options, but I was overwhelmed by all the different kinds (not to mention I've never had any kind of soy product!). I know there's soy, almond, rice, etc....Which do y'all prefer? I'd appreciate any pointers!!
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Posted 07 November 2005 - 04:49 PM
IF I could tolerate soy, I'd choose soy dairy substitutes because many have high protein/ high fat varieties which I prefer. UNFORTUNATELY I react to and must avoid all forms of soy. Rice milk seems completely worthless for cereals. It's high carb, low protein and non fat. Why would I want to add more carbs to a basically high carb (usually rice based) cereal? I've used almond milks which have more protein and fats, but still not enough to balance the carbs in cereals. Coconut milk has MUCH more fats. So I often mix coconut milk with almond milk. However with hot gluten-free cereals, I cook them in some almond milk and then add almond butter (it really does melt into the cereal) to cool the cereal and add more fats and proteins. I LOVE that combination. Vance's also offers a potato based dairy substitute beverage. It's okay for cooking, but tastes awful on cereal. Most of those substitute milks collapse in hot coffee. So I haven't found anything to use in lattes. However Blue Diamond 'Almond Breeze' which contains soy lecithin does stay stable in hot coffee, but I can't tolerate any soy. Just my opinion ... Maybe others have different experiences.
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Posted 07 November 2005 - 04:56 PM
We use rice milk when we need to. Otherwise, we drink water. In the morning, calcium added oj. Avoid soy. It's bad for your body.
http://tuberose.com/Soy.html
Other than this article, you'll find many other mainstream negatives against soy in a person's diet. This is just the one I have in my favorites.
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Posted 07 November 2005 - 05:47 PM
I used to drink Silk soy milk, which was tasty, but then I found out that they use corn for their flavorings and I am trying to avoid corn. I agree, rice milk is high carb, but right now, it is gentle enough on me that I haven't had problems. I'd like to move on to almond and others once my tummy has settled some from recent glutenings. The rice milk I use is Lundenberg farms, original flavor. It is on their website as being gluten-free.
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Posted 07 November 2005 - 06:03 PM
Thank y'all for the input!
Any other suggestions are welcome!
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Posted 07 November 2005 - 06:56 PM
While I am not in the "soy is bad for everyone" camp, I think it's wise not to overdo it. I enjoy Almond Breeze as a second, and rice milk from Trader Joe's as a third, but all of the milk alternatives I've found besides soy have very little protein, which can be a problem for me.
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Posted 07 November 2005 - 06:57 PM
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Posted 08 November 2005 - 05:38 AM
all about the rice milk...i can't do soy or dairy. i love wild oat's and whole food's rice milk the best. since you have a whole foods--i'd start with their brand of rice milk.
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Posted 08 November 2005 - 06:01 AM
I drink So Good Soy Milk and Tropicana Calcium Enriched Orange Juice.
I've read about the pro's and con's about soy and it does concern me, but I would like to see good scientific studies that prove these claims though. I may look into other products such as rice milk or almond milk.
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Posted 08 November 2005 - 06:03 AM
jenvan, on Nov 8 2005, 08:38 AM, said: all about the rice milk...i can't do soy or dairy. i love wild oat's and whole food's rice milk the best. since you have a whole foods--i'd start with their brand of rice milk.
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Sounds like I'll be giving that a try...thanks!
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Posted 08 November 2005 - 06:47 AM
Carriefaith, on Nov 8 2005, 09:01 AM, said: I drink So Good Soy Milk and Tropicana Calcium Enriched Orange Juice.
I've read about the pro's and con's about soy and it does concern me, but I would like to see good scientific studies that prove these claims though. I may look into other products such as rice milk or almond milk.
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I am confident that if you begin looking at the possible dangers of soy, you'll find all the proof you need in a matter of moments. Google the positves about soy and you'll see that the info is shady, and pushing a product for $$ gain. There was a lot of "hope" thrown at soy. Everyone wants to believe in something that will help with health issues, but this just isn't the miracle food they want desparate people to believe in. It's a cheap money-maker...at best. At worst...I hate to think of what it really is.
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Posted 08 November 2005 - 06:51 AM
mightymorg, on Nov 8 2005, 10:03 AM, said:
I love Silk soymilk- all varieties, and they say gluten free on the container. I dont know about the pros/cons of soy but dont they say the same about regular milk? (that we are not meant to digest lactose?). That said, i try to mix it up a bit so im not eating too much of the same thing (i drink skim milk too b/c i can tolerate it)
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Posted 08 November 2005 - 06:57 AM
mookie03, on Nov 8 2005, 09:51 AM, said: I love Silk soymilk- all varieties, and they say gluten free on the container. I dont know about the pros/cons of soy but dont they say the same about regular milk? (that we are not meant to digest lactose?). That said, i try to mix it up a bit so im not eating too much of the same thing (i drink skim milk too b/c i can tolerate it)
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You have sit down and actually look at some info on soy. It's not as benign as you'd like to believe. Look into dairy as well. It is bad for you. I'm not all PETA ...go ahead and have a hormone/antibiotic free steak. Eat free range chicken for all I care...but for goodness sake, look into the soy 'thing'. It's seriously about your health.
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Posted 08 November 2005 - 07:51 AM
Quote I enjoy Almond Breeze as a second, and rice milk from Trader Joe's as a third, Do you have to order these online or can you find them in stores? I'm assuming these brands are gluten-free.
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Posted 08 November 2005 - 11:28 AM
With my dd we started with organic cow's milk and she became intolerant as well. We switched to soy and then she became allergic to soy. Third we tried almond milk which she loved however, she also tested positive for almonds. Now we do some rice milk, some coconunt milk, and some DariFree.
She used to beg for milk but now she doesn't ask for it as much. I just make sure that she gets lots of other food based calcium, sunshine and a children's calcium supplement.
I think she bacame sensitive to these foods because of her leaky gut. This all occured while we were waiting for her to diagnosis.  I'm hoping over time as her system heals she can tolerate small amounts of casein etc.
We used to get Almond Breeze at our health food store. The closest Trader Joe's is about 6 hrs. away. I'm dying to get one in my area.
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