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Is Goat Milk And Goat Cheese O.k.?


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#1 taneil

 
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Posted 19 May 2004 - 05:22 PM

I was tested through enterolabs and was found to be sensitive to cow's milk as well as gluten (surprise, surprise :rolleyes: ). Does anyone know if goat's milk has the same reaction? Well I ate chicken stuffed with sun-dried tomatoes and goat cheese for dinner... it was yummy. But wasn't sure if I should stay away from goat products also. I eat Kefir made from Raw Cow's milk pretty much everyday and haven't had any problems with it. Anyone have any thoughts?

I actually haven't had the classic celiac disease symptoms. I tested positive for Hashimoto's Hypothyroidism and so had the enterolab test done. Everything tested positive and I have both genes. So I am now gluten-free for life, but don't want to be milk-free for life... Like I said, I dodn't get stomachaches, loose stools or such...gluten triggers my Thyroid to wack out and it also damaged my instines but no real bad symptoms. so what are your thougts?

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Be strong and let your heart take courage; Yes, wait for the LORD.

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Posted 20 May 2004 - 12:32 PM

My Mom does alright on goat's milk but can't tolerate cow's milk yet anyway. I am not sure if the test from Enterolab is saying that you currently can't tolerate milk or your genetically milk intolerant?
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#3 taneil

 
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Posted 20 May 2004 - 06:25 PM

Enterolab says I am sensitive to Cow's milk protein (Caesin). I don't think it necessarily means genetically.
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Taneil
Enterolab Diagnosed May 2004
gluten-free/CF and have both genes

Psalm 27:13-14
I would have despaired unless I had believed that I would see the goodness of the LORD In the land of the living. Wait for the LORD;
Be strong and let your heart take courage; Yes, wait for the LORD.

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Posted 20 May 2004 - 08:39 PM

I don't know if you were told (or read yet) that Celiac patients usually cannot digest milk well until their intestines heal up (usually 6 months to 2 years). For me it was at about 6 months that I tried it again since I had heard others reintroduced it about then, I am doing alright with it now. My Mom as I mentioned earlier still hasn't healed enough for cow's milk but tried goat milk since we had heard it is easier to digest and she can tolerate it at least in small amounts and seems to be o.k. with butter and chedder cheese.

I'm not much help I know, sorry...hopefully someone else can add more.
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#5 taneil

 
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Posted 21 May 2004 - 05:23 AM

Thank you Lisa. Yes I know that most Celiacs have problems with milk until the instines heal. I just wasn't sure how long I need to wait before trying Cow's Milk again, so thought I might do goat products until then.

I think I will wait on both for a while, though I didn't seem to do bad with the goat cheese.

Thank you for your response.
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Enterolab Diagnosed May 2004
gluten-free/CF and have both genes

Psalm 27:13-14
I would have despaired unless I had believed that I would see the goodness of the LORD In the land of the living. Wait for the LORD;
Be strong and let your heart take courage; Yes, wait for the LORD.

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Posted 21 May 2004 - 02:22 PM

I have been gluten free for 3 years, but still have problems with Cow milk and drink only goat milk, which does not bother me at all. Most cheese now doesn't bother me so maybe, some day I can go back to regular milk. But for now I'm beginning to like goat milk. Shirley
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Posted 21 May 2004 - 02:29 PM

I posted a similar question the in the kids forum.. wondering when I should reintroduce dairy to my 2 yr old. She has been gluten-free/CF for about 3 weeks now and just started having normal bowel movements again last week. I don't necessarily want to give her cows milk to drink, but would like to have pizza and mexican food again!

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Posted 21 May 2004 - 07:29 PM

Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, and I certainly hope that I am, but I thought that the Enterolab casein sensitivity test being positive meant that you should be casein free for life. I tested positive for this also and I am absolutely dying for some cheese! I think it means that your body is experiencing an immunologic reaction to casein and it should always be avoided. This is different than celiacs who simply cannot properly digest lactose because their villi are so damaged. Once the villi heals they will probably be able to digest it again. Please, someone tell me that I'm wrong and that I'll be able to eat cheese again!
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Posted 22 May 2004 - 07:14 AM

Unfortunately, you are absolutely right. Shirley
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#10 taneil

 
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Posted 22 May 2004 - 10:57 AM

About cornflake girl's question...I don't know and wouldn't doubt that Shirley is correct, but what about this ?

I know from reading a book on Autism that gluten-free/CF diets greatly improve autistic childrens symptoms. But I also know from reading the book that it talks about how gluten and casein protiens are very similar to each other thus gluten-free/CF is essential to an autistic child. Yet we know that many people with celiac disease are able to tolerate Dairy after the intesines heal, could this be because before the intestines heal the antibodies think that Casein is Gluten since it is so similar and thus problems with casein antibodies. But once the instines heal the distinction between casein and gluten is able to be made and one may then tolerate casein even though previously sensitive?

That is only my hypothisis and I have no clue if I am correct or not, and I have no way of testing it currently, but would be very happy to get input on my poor or messed up reasoning and thoughts.
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Enterolab Diagnosed May 2004
gluten-free/CF and have both genes

Psalm 27:13-14
I would have despaired unless I had believed that I would see the goodness of the LORD In the land of the living. Wait for the LORD;
Be strong and let your heart take courage; Yes, wait for the LORD.

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Posted 22 May 2004 - 06:35 PM

I think that being unable to tolerate it and having an immunologic reaction to it are two separate things. I'm under the impression that the people who go on to be able to digest dairy are not the same people who had the immunologic reaction to dairy in the first place. They simply had a hard time digesting it before the intestines healed. Can anyone verify that?
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