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If You Are A Vegetarian.... Why?


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#1 Jnkmnky

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 02:53 PM

WHY I'm suddenly considering this... Is it primarily Health reasons? OR am I getting grossed out by eating animals? Both are true for me in smallish degrees. I just have been feeling this pull to go vegetarian. Sometimes when I eat meat these days, I get so grossed out and I don't know why. I chalk it up to the feed they give these animals and the injections and the processing of the meat. But then I also consider how inhumane it all is to treat them like that until they finally kill them. I'm not a bleeding heart, PETA type. Or am I ... slowly becoming one?? :blink:
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Posted 17 April 2006 - 03:10 PM

I've thought about going vegetarian for a number of reasons (the following being equally important to me):

1. the meat industry, in general, has some abysmal practices. absolutely abysmal. living in a capitalist society, not being terribly politically active (beyond voting), I speak my preferences in my consumption choices, and I wouldn't choose to perform the process they use, so I don't want to support it.

2. obtaining meat for food is a violent act. I'm working towards better expression of non-violence, on many levels. one of the standards I would use here is - if I would do it, I'll support it. so, could I kill a cow, skin it, dress it, butcher it, and hang it? could I chop the head off a chicken, drain it, pluck it, dress it, and then the rest? could I catch a fish, scale it, gut it, and so on? I think I could with a fish, I don't know about the rest.

3. meat places a much greater environmental impact on the planet than a nutritionally equivalent amount of non-flesh food. not only from the issue of working up the food chain, but from the amount of labor involved, and the by-products.

All that being said, without the gluten, the dairy, the limits I have on soy, and the hypoglycemia, I can't do vegetarian. It's just downright unhealthy for my body. So, I do what I can, taking the items above into account, minimizing my meat consumption, trying to focus on things that I would be willing to prepare myself, eating vegetarian dishes often, and choosing the source of that meat as wisely as possible. It's not a perfect solution, but it's the best compromise I've been able to come up with so far.

Interestingly enough, a number of serious yoga practitioners discuss this often (as the students in my training class did last week). One of the aspects of yoga (of which the poses are just a very small part) is the yamas (moral considerations), and one of those is ahimsa (non-violence). (hehehe... saw that above... ;-) ) So, you get the "can you practice true yoga if you're not a vegetarian?" question asked. And some people say 'yep, that's true." Other's say, "if you're body needs meat, and you don't eat it, then you're doing violence to yourself to avoid it, and that's wrong too." I've heard a very similar debate amongst some Buddhists, who also believe in non-violence, but tend to be very practical as well, though they are far more often vegetarian or vegan. (Though, man... finding vegan vitamins! Darn those gelatin gelcaps!)

Why not try going vegetarian for a month (something my brother in law did, just to try it) and see how it goes?
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Posted 17 April 2006 - 03:33 PM

Ok. Your response was way more thoughtful than my question! But you hit on some of what I'm thinking about. I just looked up a good web site
http://www.vrg.org/n...ion/calcium.htm
and it has tons of great, and practical info on eating a healthy vegetarian diet. While I was making salad for dinner tonight (which I do often as we are dairy free and need our calcium from the spinach we eat), I decided to do what you suggested. Go vegetarian for a month. That way, psychologically, I'm not making a life-long commitment just yet. I have the option to eat meat within a month's time. SO, I'm going to go for it. WHY not? I'm gluten free for nearly a year, mostly dairy free, eating way less meat, and now have GERD according to my dr and have to eliminate Coffee and other goodies that I like. So, how hard can a veggie diet be?!
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Posted 17 April 2006 - 04:18 PM

Ok. Your response was way more thoughtful than my question! But you hit on some of what I'm thinking about. I just looked up a good web site
http://www.vrg.org/n...ion/calcium.htm
and it has tons of great, and practical info on eating a healthy vegetarian diet. While I was making salad for dinner tonight (which I do often as we are dairy free and need our calcium from the spinach we eat), I decided to do what you suggested. Go vegetarian for a month. That way, psychologically, I'm not making a life-long commitment just yet. I have the option to eat meat within a month's time. SO, I'm going to go for it. WHY not? I'm gluten free for nearly a year, mostly dairy free, eating way less meat, and now have GERD according to my dr and have to eliminate Coffee and other goodies that I like. So, how hard can a veggie diet be?!


lol! I've been thinking about it, off and on, for ... five, six years? and I have a number of friends/family who are vegetarian/vegan for a number of moral/health reasons.

here's a recipe I made yesterday when I was tired/lazy:
1 can garbanzo beans, drained
1 large carrot
2 cloves garlic, crushed
1 tablespoon olive oil
1/4 tsp cumin
1/8 tsp chili powder
pinch salt

dice the carrot fairly small (about the size of half or a quarter of a garbanzo bean).
heat the oil in a skillet, add the carrot and garlic and sautee until fragrant and the carrot is starting to cook through (about 4 minutes).
add the rest of the ingredients, continue sauteeing until everything is nice and hot and cooked through (another 4-5 minutes)
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Posted 17 April 2006 - 04:20 PM

Read "Being Vegan".

Great, great non-biased book.
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Posted 17 April 2006 - 04:35 PM

I was vegitarian for health reasons for abourt 5 years, the last 3 I have been mostly vegitarian. I often only eat meat once a week. I only will eat meat that I know where it came from and all that. I like the free range, all natural, all organic, air chilled meat. I get it at whole foods. I feel better about it.

I haven't had any problems being vegitarian, but I can have dairy and eggs. I get alot of my protein and calcium from those sources.

I thought I would add my favorite supper recipe:

1 yellow squash
1 zuchini
1 small bag of baby carrots
1/2 bag of baby spinach
Any other vegie I'm in the mood for ie.eggplant....

I cut all the vegies to about the same size and saute in a little EVOO and butter. Adding the spinach at the end. When I have it I add fresh basil at the end too. I serve over jasmin rice with lentils. (You just cook the lentils and rice at the same time together) I might add a sprinkle of cheese.

We have this almost every other night. And that includes my 5 and 3 year olds!!!!!

Good luck with what ever you choose! Just try and eat healthy!

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 06:14 PM

Tiffany pretty much explained what I feel about being a vegetarian. I try to make my voice heard as a consumer too. I don't eat much meat, mostly fish lately. If I do buy meat, it's usually organic, when I can budget for it. Since I don't eat beef, I don't use gelatin and so on. But the problem is that I wear cow leather boots for work. So, call me a hypocrite. It's tough, I really would like to be a vegetarian but I can't eat dairy and of course no gluten.
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Posted 17 April 2006 - 06:16 PM

lol! I've been thinking about it, off and on, for ... five, six years? and I have a number of friends/family who are vegetarian/vegan for a number of moral/health reasons.

here's a recipe I made yesterday when I was tired/lazy:
1 can garbanzo beans, drained
1 large carrot
2 cloves garlic, crushed
1 tablespoon olive oil
1/4 tsp cumin
1/8 tsp chili powder
pinch salt

dice the carrot fairly small (about the size of half or a quarter of a garbanzo bean).
heat the oil in a skillet, add the carrot and garlic and sautee until fragrant and the carrot is starting to cook through (about 4 minutes).
add the rest of the ingredients, continue sauteeing until everything is nice and hot and cooked through (another 4-5 minutes)


Hey, thanks! We have tons of garbonzo beans here because my kids love them. I'll make it tomorrow.

Lollie, I love anything with basil!
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Posted 17 April 2006 - 06:51 PM

I decided to become a vegetarian at the tender age of 4. Neither of my parents are vegetarians. I watched the movie "Charlotte's Web," made the connection between animals (which I love) and meat, and declared, "I'm never eating anything with eyes again!"

My parents thought it was a phase, but 20 years later, I'm still a vegetarian. I think it's totally a personal decision - I don't condemn or lecture anyone who wants to eat meat. I don't think I am "saving" the lives of animals by choosing not to eat meat. BUT, the reason I am still a vegetarian is b/c the thought of eating animal flesh disgusts me. I don't do it to be healthier, or because I dislike the taste. Truthfully, I don't even remember what meat tastes like!

I am not vegan though; I eat eggs, drink milk, etc. Vegetarianism is just part of who I am, and when I was diagnosed with Celiac (at age 21), I didn't even think about changing.

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 09:36 PM

I am a vegetarian simply because I think murder is wrong. Just because I can kill something doesn't mean I should. In my head I can't stand knowing that a living, thinking, and feeling being died just so I could eat when I could be just as fine and healthy letting it live. These thoughts just took over and a few years ago I just stopped eatin animals.
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Posted 17 April 2006 - 09:57 PM

If you decide to try going vegetarian, really consider taking a couple cooking classes in it. Some of my mom's friends were vegetarians/foodies and they made the BEST food. I'm still to this day kicking myself for not getting recipes for some of their food.

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 10:20 AM

I have been vegetarian my whole life and I can't bring myself to eat meat. It is for health reasons that I don't eat it. It really isn't that good for you, like they would like you to think. My son can't have gluten either and I was talking to his pediatrician about whether he thought he was ok without it. He said he thinks he is better off without it. He says he thinks we all would be better off without it, but he still hasn't given it up. He told me about something he had read recently and it was the best reason to go vegetarian. In the article it said that when you eat vegetables and there is anything "bad" on them, that our intestines or something in the vegetables can kill whatever is bad and our bodies don't absorb the toxins. If we eat meat, whatever it is the kills the "bad" things on the meat doens't happen and our bodies absorb the bad stuff. Sounds complicated, but really isn't.
Having to go gluten free and give up the "meat alternatives" made from gluten has been very hard, but I can't bring myself to eat something dead. I also agree with everything Tiffany said. It takes SO much more of our environment up to eat meat.
I think it is a good idea to try it for a month and see how it goes. If you are gluten free, dairy free and meat free, it will be very hard to eat out. I guess you could have salad still.
Learning to cook vegetarian is very important. I don't think I could do all three of those without consuming some soy though. You would be very bored probably. I eat a ton of Mexican food and avocadoes (which are very good for you and flavorful).
I also don't want to offend anyone about meat eating. If you feel you want to eat meat, then that is your right and I don't condemn.
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 10:32 AM

Here are some interesting perspectives on vegetarianism

http://www.paulchek....etarianism1.htm
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 10:34 AM

I like some others, have been toying with the idea of vegetarianism, for the last 33 years. Yeah, I know that is a long time to sit on the fence but when my son was growing up he did not like vegetables that much and still doesn't. So, the meat was for him, really. I could never be a farmer like my cousins unless it was a grain farm. I could not kill anything I have raised.

I never eat red meat. I only eat free range, no antibiotics, corn fed poultry. 6 months ago I had bought 4 packages of chicken and now have one left...shows how much I eat it. I eat more seafood than anything else and that is only once or twice a week.

I just can't see Yule without turkey. For us Tofurkey is not an option because it is loaded in gluten.

I guess one could say I am almost there. The more I see mad cow, avian flu the more it encourages me to stay away from it but for me it is more than that, it is the animals.

One of the most traumatic moments of my life was when I was four years old, seeing my cousin cut the head off the chicken and it chased me about the yard. I can't watch any show that shows that an animal may be killed or hurt because I am in tears.
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 10:40 AM

I forgot to mention yesterday, that my five year old has recently decided to become vegitarian. My husband looked at me and I just looked surprised. She broke into a full out sob over having to eat an animal. She doesn't want to hurt any other living thing. I told her she didn't have to eat any meat, but she had to eat eggs and dairy and beans. All of which are not her favorites, but so far so good! She would rather eat things that don't taste as good as she would like them to, then hurt an animal. Personally, I'm really proud and impressed with her conviction. It's been over a month and she hasn't changed her mind!


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