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Teeth Grinding And Tmj


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Posted 24 April 2006 - 10:31 AM

I got so good and so fast at catching the retainer when I was talking to someone, all they would see if my hand come up and shut. They never knew I was catching my retainer. I always thought that retainer catching should be an Olympic event.


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armetta or anyone else- Fibromyalgia? I'm starting to feel like the world's biggest hypochondraic but I realized today that my jaw, face, neck, arms, wrists (supposedly have some carpal tunnel), and back all hurt. I took some ibuprofen and it seems to have dulled things a bit but Ii really try to stay away from NSAIDs.
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 10:52 AM

B--The TMJ can affect the jaw, face, neck, and arms--I get it all. The reason I never persued the Fibro. for me is that I don't get pain when I press on an area--they're just sore. Much more so when I wake up--and are somewhat relieved by a shower (if I'm lucky that day!). I've often wondered about that, though, because I also get hip pain, and I doubt vey much that it's caused by the TMJ! The ENT that dx me said to take a pain reliever and put a warm cloth on the joints where the jaws come together in addition to the night guard. Also to eat soft foods when it acts up. I also gently massage the joints when they're particularly sore.
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 12:40 PM

I have had Fibro since the late 70's. When I got diagnosed they called it Fibrositis and they thought it was rare. I think there are 16 or 18 pressure points and when I was diagnosed I had every pressure point active. My TMJ was diagnosed when I was 19 (now 64) at the University of Washington dental school. No mouth pieces at that time. I was just told to not eat whole apples and don't let anyone operate on my jaw.
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 12:50 PM

Thanks ladies- I don't think I have the pressure point pain. It's supposed to REALlY hurt when you press on one of those points, right?
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 12:56 PM

OH, YES, it really hurts. Especially the sides of my thighs. I sleep on my side and I am like the princess and the pea (fairy tale). I can not even have a PJ seam on my side or the bed sheet wrinkled.
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"Throw yourself a pity-party and you'll be the only guest." - Earlene Fowler

Diag. Celiac Disease by positive blood test 2/03/2004
Allergies - corn, soy, casein, egg whites and wheat
Morphia Scleroderma
Osteoarthritis
Hypothyroid and Hperthyroid
Essential Tremors
Asthma
Migraines
Fibromyalgia - diag. in 1978 when they called it Fibrositis
PAD Peripheral Artery Disease
Angina and Atrial Fibrillation
Gluten Ataxia
Vitiligo
Scoliosis of the spine (caused by malabsorption and it is horribly painful) This would be enough reason for someone to go gluten free.
Ocular Myastenia Gravis

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Posted 24 April 2006 - 01:00 PM

Oh armetta- that's horrible! I definitely don't feel that- just achey. That must be excruciating. I'm so sorry. Hugs, B
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Posted 25 April 2006 - 06:13 AM

Right around the time I started to get symptoms of celiac disease, I started to feel pain in my jaw. About a year later my dentist Dx me with tmj. I have a great mouth piece he made me i wear at night, its one of those thin flexy ones...and yes i too have been on the floor in the morning searching for it...lol

If effects so many places on ur face and neck. Sometimes i get the pain right about my eyebrows, but its not a headache...it called refferred (sp) pain. The point is ur jaws, but it can shoot to so many other places, because u have so many nerves in that area....i feel that moist heat helps when im really sore/stiff. Also i have a great massage therapist....she told me that acupucture would help a lot, but i havent got to that route yet.
People always tell me to take up yoga to, stretching out the muscles is also useful, but who has the time...oye!
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Posted 25 April 2006 - 09:32 AM

It's interesting how it all goes.....TMJ years ago, migraines for over 30 years, fibro dx three years ago and now a gluten intolerance (with a gene dx) two years ago----a definite thread to be found here. Going to be 61 soon, the migraines still come occasionally, but THANK GOD for Imitrex, TMJ totally under control, take some serious meds for the fibro/now with infrequent flares (in one right now) and eating gluten-free----still have to work more than full time, stress level gets high at times. It's too bad all doctors just don't get the connection. Barbara
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Posted 26 April 2006 - 10:04 PM

What do other people do for this? I was wondering if chiropractic treatment might be a good idea. Thanks, Beverly

Dude... My chiro totally fixed my tmj...

I swear by it!

By the by, my chiros totally belive I have celiac, whereas my medical docs don't. Nuff said? :D
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Posted 27 April 2006 - 12:52 PM

I have had TMJ for as long as I can remember. My chiropractor could help tremendously, but it would always come back. I saw an orhtodontist who specializes in it, and got a splint that's worn 24/7 for six months (yes, even while eating). It pulls the bottom jaw down and forward so that the joint isn't jammed up (if that makes sense). Now the otho is grinding down the splint so that my teeth lengthen (on their own, not with caps or other expensive solutions). Believe it or not, they do grow. My top and bottom teeth have not touched for months except for the front teeth, but are now starting to come together. This has completely healed my TMJ!!! At this point I wear the splint at night because of my grinding. All was completely covered by my medical insurance (not dental) because it's a joint problem.

My chiropractor did help a lot with comfort, but my muscles needed to be trained to hold the jaw in place, which is what the splint did.

I think the whole thing is aggravated by the joint pain I get from the gluten intolerance.

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 01:12 PM

Dude... My chiro totally fixed my tmj...


this totally cracked me up!

Thanks for all your help and suggestions. I REALLY appreciate it. I made a chiro appt. (I've done it before and it helped tremendously with my back). Ii also made an appt with my psyhiatrist- they're awesome. I saw them last year after I had a skiing accident- they were the ones that found I had all these crazy spinal issues. I like psyhiatrists because they are more holistic (exercises, etc) but they can also prescribe meds (and they don't prescribe all that nasty narcotic stuff which I hate).

But i'm thinking that what carlab said about seeing an orthodontist who specializes in TMJ. It sounds like it would be a good thing for me to pursue. Do you know how to find one? Also what does the splint look like- is it in your mouth or am I going to look like jacob Marley's ghost? :unsure:
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Posted 27 April 2006 - 01:52 PM

I felt like an idiot when I was learning to eat and talk with it, especially since I have six kids to tease me about it. I put off going to an ortho for years ... I live near Indiana University, and am seeing Dr. Coghlan (sr., his son is in the practice, too). He was a professor at IU for years and taught TMJ treatment. I'm moving to Ohio, and he recommended one of his collegues to me. You could give him a call to see if he has a recommedation where you live. I originally got a recommendation from my dentist, but stopped seeing that ortho as I really don't think she knew what she was doing.

Carla

PS Yes, it's in your mouth, on your bottom teeth. It made me lisp, but my daughter wears one and she can talk normally. It didn't help that I live in "Spencer" so whenever I had to give people my address, with the two "s" sounds and the lisp, they couldn't understand me!

Oh, and it's so unnoticeable that you could participate in the activities being discussed in another forum and probably not have a problem :lol:
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Posted 27 April 2006 - 02:19 PM

Dude... My chiro totally fixed my tmj...



LMAO!!! :lol: :lol:

Dude...since the day I went gluten-free I've never worn my splint again! It just fixed itself.

The specialists I saw were telling me they didnt even know where to begin with me....that my jaw was so messed up and the joints are grating and all this other scary stuff.

Its definately the gluten and corn intolerance causing it because it causes the tissue around my joint to swell and it puts alot of pressure on my jaw. When I was on a normal diet I could barely open my mouth and I was clenching and grinding like crazy. They sent me to a TMJ class, I got the splint made and had to go to physical therapy. Those things helped but the elimination of food intolerances was key for me cuz without all that inflammation I have no TMJ. :D
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Posted 27 April 2006 - 04:12 PM

I just picked up my new mouth piece today and can't wait to wear it tonight. It really relaxes the jaw muscles for me. Mine fits over the top teeth and I find that more comfortable.
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Diag. Celiac Disease by positive blood test 2/03/2004
Allergies - corn, soy, casein, egg whites and wheat
Morphia Scleroderma
Osteoarthritis
Hypothyroid and Hperthyroid
Essential Tremors
Asthma
Migraines
Fibromyalgia - diag. in 1978 when they called it Fibrositis
PAD Peripheral Artery Disease
Angina and Atrial Fibrillation
Gluten Ataxia
Vitiligo
Scoliosis of the spine (caused by malabsorption and it is horribly painful) This would be enough reason for someone to go gluten free.
Ocular Myastenia Gravis

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 05:17 PM

I wore one on the top for a couple years and it did relax my jaw. However, my TMJ was still a problem with my jaw cracking every time I opened my mouth and a lot of pain, so I needed the bottom appliance that actually moves the jaw ... it trains the muscles to hold it in a different place, which is why you even have to wear it while eating. I had no trouble playing my flute with it (flute players are notorious for having TMJ, but I even had it for the 23 years between HS and when I started playing again). But I do remember the relief the top one would give me at night. Now my jaw never hurts, I just wear it for grinding. Just like gluten intolerance, they are still learning a lot about TMJ.
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