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Posted 18 June 2006 - 06:41 AM

Well, I finally made it to the Wild Oats market 45 minutes south of me. I had heard how much better and bigger it was than my local health food store. It was definitely bigger, at least 3 times the size, but not better.

The meat storage units smelled like old rotted meat and there was a fly on one of the meat packages. I was hungry for meat (I am very anemic), so I got some chicken (had butcher get it from the back), but I can't eat it because I still can't get over the smell or the fly. The fly looked alive because I thought it was staring at me. So, being the pest that I am, I flicked it. It was dead, just stuck to the top of the package. GROSS !!! :o

The rest of the store was disappointing too. Their salad bar was completely open, so everything looked dry. The prepared deli section was gross too. Everything had that crusty, dried out look on top. The produce section had more "conventional" fruits and veggies than organic. I love the word conventional as opposed to "full of pesticides". The gluten free section was interesting, but entirely too small. I got a Chebe pizza bread mix I am looking forward to making. And they had the Lara bars everyone talks about. :D

There were at least 20 extra friendly employees ready to help me shop. Why aren't some of them helping keep the meat counter, deli and salad sections clean and fresh ?

I went there because Publix ( local grocery store) can't keep the all natural meats in stock. And what they have is sooo expensive. The last time I tried to buy buffalo meat at Publix, all 4 packages were out of date by a week. :huh:

Why is healthy food so hard to find and expensive ? I know it is supposedly more expensive to grow, but I find it hard to believe it costs as much as we are being charged. :ph34r:

We are supposed to be getting a Whole Foods market right accross the street from me by the end of the summer. I sure hope they are better.

Thanks for letting me vent. I figured ya'll are going through the same things I am as we try to get our health back. I am living for the day we can call and order a gluten free pizza delivered. :rolleyes:

Marcia
Jan 1990 - Dx CFS/ME/FM (URI's, Ataxia, myoclonus, orthostatic hypotension, insomnia, brain fog, swollen lymph nodes, sore throat... ) Completely Disabled (housebound and bedridden at times)

2004 - Digestive pain all the time.

May 2004 - Hiatal hernia, erosive gastritis, gastroparesis (endoscopy)
August 2004 - Colon polyps, diverticulitus, internal hemorrhoids (colonoscopy)

No relief from Nexium, Prilosec, Protonix, Zelnorm, Miralax, Imodium, Lomotil ...
July 2005 - GP recommended WFDFSFEFCF + vegan (Also, anything that hurts free)
Immediately stopped needing naps and digestive pain reduced.

Sept 2005 - GFDFCFSFEF + chemical free - Immediately stopped feeling jittery / buzzing and digestive issues were much better.

June 2006 - Dx B12 and iron deficient. Started B12 injections and using cast iron pan.

August 2006 - MYOCLONUS GONE. (off Klonopin)
September 2006 - ATAXIA, INSOMNIA and Feeling like the floor was moving under my feet gone.

June 19, 2007 - Positive DQ2, Dx Celiac

October 2007 - Sleeping like a baby, waking up with energy, but still having fatigue/stamina issues

Nov 2007 - Started Paleo diet for chronic hypoglycemia

April 2008 - GTT normal. I'm no longer hypoglycemic. Started Low oxalate diet for kidney stones.

May 1, 2008 - Began salt loading for OI/NMH - noticed immediately muscle weakness was gone. I was sodium deficient but my labs don't reflect it. Still working on OI and PEM.
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Posted 18 June 2006 - 06:50 AM

Oh Marcia--That does sound gross! Sorry you had such a dissapointing visit :( . On the bright side, the Whole Foods that is coming is a great store. I have been to 2 that are near me, and they are always well stocked, clean and have a nice selection. I have found the employees there also very nice and helpful. Hope they build yours fast :D
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Posted 18 June 2006 - 06:52 AM

Marcia,

I'm so sorry you had such a bad experience at Wild Oats.

I don't know where you live but the Wild Oats in Vancouver WA is very clean. The meat, deli, salad, produce etc are all well maintained and fresh. I could handle it if they had a bigger gluten-free section but I now mainly go there for the meat but also get dairy or rice products there. We have a totally free gluten store in Vancouver also which carries many different brands and the prices for the most part are a little bit lower than Wild Oats.

I believe they are based out of Colorado. Maybe you should lodge a complaint about the condition of that store.
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Posted 18 June 2006 - 08:04 AM

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience there. It may be worth calling the local health department and asking them to do a local inspection, reporting what you find.

I say that, despite the fact I actually love the place, and have had quite the opposite experience in the two WO's that I used to go to. The one I primarily shopped at, my main grocery store, in Long Beach, originally had some problems that had to be corrected (as posted on their inspection review on their door), but they corrected them well, and the experience was very similar to going to Whole Foods, without being as expensive.

So I know they *can* do better, and I'm disappointed to hear that they're not doing better for you.
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Posted 18 June 2006 - 08:13 AM

Patti,

They are taking over where a bankrupt Winn Dixie closed out about 2 months ago. So, thankfully, they don't have to build. I am psyched about it .

I live in a relatively small town in Fl, so I am hoping Whole Foods will keep their store clean. That is why Winn Dixie failed. So hopefully they will keep that in mind.

Andrea,

I really should complain. I can't see the point in complaining to the current manager as he can obviously see what I saw, so I will email corporate. Colorado is a long way from here, so maybe they aren't keeping up with the FL stores.

It was a real bummer to drive all that way and feel like I got home with unsanitary meat. I cooked it to death, but still am too grossed out by it to enjoy it. :blink:

Marcia
Jan 1990 - Dx CFS/ME/FM (URI's, Ataxia, myoclonus, orthostatic hypotension, insomnia, brain fog, swollen lymph nodes, sore throat... ) Completely Disabled (housebound and bedridden at times)

2004 - Digestive pain all the time.

May 2004 - Hiatal hernia, erosive gastritis, gastroparesis (endoscopy)
August 2004 - Colon polyps, diverticulitus, internal hemorrhoids (colonoscopy)

No relief from Nexium, Prilosec, Protonix, Zelnorm, Miralax, Imodium, Lomotil ...
July 2005 - GP recommended WFDFSFEFCF + vegan (Also, anything that hurts free)
Immediately stopped needing naps and digestive pain reduced.

Sept 2005 - GFDFCFSFEF + chemical free - Immediately stopped feeling jittery / buzzing and digestive issues were much better.

June 2006 - Dx B12 and iron deficient. Started B12 injections and using cast iron pan.

August 2006 - MYOCLONUS GONE. (off Klonopin)
September 2006 - ATAXIA, INSOMNIA and Feeling like the floor was moving under my feet gone.

June 19, 2007 - Positive DQ2, Dx Celiac

October 2007 - Sleeping like a baby, waking up with energy, but still having fatigue/stamina issues

Nov 2007 - Started Paleo diet for chronic hypoglycemia

April 2008 - GTT normal. I'm no longer hypoglycemic. Started Low oxalate diet for kidney stones.

May 1, 2008 - Began salt loading for OI/NMH - noticed immediately muscle weakness was gone. I was sodium deficient but my labs don't reflect it. Still working on OI and PEM.
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Posted 18 June 2006 - 08:39 AM

What a disapointing visit :( Sorry that happened.

The Wild Oats by me is great!, Very clean and smells good too.

The gluten-free section is a bit small, but to even have one aisle in the store dedicated to gluten-free is a start. I've also noticed that they only put products that are intended to be gluten-free, like Cause Your Special, Glutano, etc. in the gluten-free section. There are gluten-free foods mixed throughout the store. They started putting labels with the ones that were gluten-free, but weren't in the dedicated aisle. You still have to be careful, that tags could be in the wrong place so I still read the package too.
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Posted 18 June 2006 - 08:47 AM

I love my Wild Oats that I go to. They have a large gluten-free section and it is very clean. The manager always works with me and if I need something special he gets it in. I like mine better then Whole Foods. But also, Whole Foods is about 20 minutes further. I am so sorry that you had such a disappointing expierence. How frustrating that is to drive such a distance and be so disappointed.
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Posted 18 June 2006 - 09:21 AM

Tiffany, Michael, Armetta,

I went on their website and emailed them. Hopefully, they will get it cleaned up. It wouldn't be so gross if I would just throw away the meat I bought and go buy something else. Then I wouldn't be thinking about flies everytime I eat it.

It's just that I am just having such a tough time finding all natural meat that I hate to throw it away. Publix just doesn't carry enough of it and paying $$$ just rubs me the wrong way. They usually have ground buffalo meat, but I really don't want anymore buffalo meat. :(

This diet is hard enough without having to forage for food and be gauged at the register.

Thanks for listening :) ... marcia
Jan 1990 - Dx CFS/ME/FM (URI's, Ataxia, myoclonus, orthostatic hypotension, insomnia, brain fog, swollen lymph nodes, sore throat... ) Completely Disabled (housebound and bedridden at times)

2004 - Digestive pain all the time.

May 2004 - Hiatal hernia, erosive gastritis, gastroparesis (endoscopy)
August 2004 - Colon polyps, diverticulitus, internal hemorrhoids (colonoscopy)

No relief from Nexium, Prilosec, Protonix, Zelnorm, Miralax, Imodium, Lomotil ...
July 2005 - GP recommended WFDFSFEFCF + vegan (Also, anything that hurts free)
Immediately stopped needing naps and digestive pain reduced.

Sept 2005 - GFDFCFSFEF + chemical free - Immediately stopped feeling jittery / buzzing and digestive issues were much better.

June 2006 - Dx B12 and iron deficient. Started B12 injections and using cast iron pan.

August 2006 - MYOCLONUS GONE. (off Klonopin)
September 2006 - ATAXIA, INSOMNIA and Feeling like the floor was moving under my feet gone.

June 19, 2007 - Positive DQ2, Dx Celiac

October 2007 - Sleeping like a baby, waking up with energy, but still having fatigue/stamina issues

Nov 2007 - Started Paleo diet for chronic hypoglycemia

April 2008 - GTT normal. I'm no longer hypoglycemic. Started Low oxalate diet for kidney stones.

May 1, 2008 - Began salt loading for OI/NMH - noticed immediately muscle weakness was gone. I was sodium deficient but my labs don't reflect it. Still working on OI and PEM.
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Posted 18 June 2006 - 09:26 AM

I went to Wild Oats when it opened. The store was attractive and well kept. I was dissappointed in the prices - higher than the local natural foods store that they're driving out of business - and the selection - lots of processed packaged convenience foods for people who have to have that, and not so many whole foods.

I can't afford the meat or produce, but that's neither here nor there.
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Posted 19 June 2006 - 06:09 PM

Hi All,

I heard from corporate and store manager today. They assured me that this was not the norm for them and competely unacceptable.

Thanks for letting me know your experiences at Wild Oats. I would have written them off if you hadn't told me your positive experiences.

They are sending me a gift certificate, so I will at least go back and try them again. It's 45 minutes one way, so I sure hope the meat dept is clean.

Why do I have to go through all this just to eat ?? :(

Marcia
Jan 1990 - Dx CFS/ME/FM (URI's, Ataxia, myoclonus, orthostatic hypotension, insomnia, brain fog, swollen lymph nodes, sore throat... ) Completely Disabled (housebound and bedridden at times)

2004 - Digestive pain all the time.

May 2004 - Hiatal hernia, erosive gastritis, gastroparesis (endoscopy)
August 2004 - Colon polyps, diverticulitus, internal hemorrhoids (colonoscopy)

No relief from Nexium, Prilosec, Protonix, Zelnorm, Miralax, Imodium, Lomotil ...
July 2005 - GP recommended WFDFSFEFCF + vegan (Also, anything that hurts free)
Immediately stopped needing naps and digestive pain reduced.

Sept 2005 - GFDFCFSFEF + chemical free - Immediately stopped feeling jittery / buzzing and digestive issues were much better.

June 2006 - Dx B12 and iron deficient. Started B12 injections and using cast iron pan.

August 2006 - MYOCLONUS GONE. (off Klonopin)
September 2006 - ATAXIA, INSOMNIA and Feeling like the floor was moving under my feet gone.

June 19, 2007 - Positive DQ2, Dx Celiac

October 2007 - Sleeping like a baby, waking up with energy, but still having fatigue/stamina issues

Nov 2007 - Started Paleo diet for chronic hypoglycemia

April 2008 - GTT normal. I'm no longer hypoglycemic. Started Low oxalate diet for kidney stones.

May 1, 2008 - Began salt loading for OI/NMH - noticed immediately muscle weakness was gone. I was sodium deficient but my labs don't reflect it. Still working on OI and PEM.
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Posted 19 June 2006 - 08:30 PM

I may have a partial solution to your organic price woes: I know this may sound crazy to those of you who don't live in the country, but have you ever tried venison? My family is full of hunters and we have venison all the time. It is so lean and healthy. I just use it like beef to make about everything. It's definately organic and a great source of iron. If you know anyone who is a hunter, ask them to get one for you during the hunting season. Butcher fees vary from 25-75 dollars, but that's not much for that much meat. Sorry if I'm grossing anyone out, just a way of life in N. Alabama! Wild turkey is really good too, as is pheasant and quail.
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Posted 19 June 2006 - 09:08 PM

I'm glad they got back to you. I'd certainly give them a few weeks to "clean up their act" before bothering to drive back, though. You might even call the store before going, and ask what changes they've made, cleanliness wise, in their meat department, before heading in, though that'd require some steel backbone. ;-)
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Posted 20 June 2006 - 06:55 AM

TCA,

I live in FL, so maybe I could get gator meat ? ;) I will look for other wild sources though. That's a good idea. Thanks for the tip. Actually there is a restaurant near here that sells gator. <_<

Tiffany,

The manager told me Monday when I called her at noon that they had already cleaned out the meat cases.
I am going to have to wait awhile before I can stomach getting meat from them again though. :(

I'm going to be a little nervous when I get to the register and show them my gift card. Hopefully, my name won't be on it. :ph34r:

I picked up some more BUFFALO :blink: meat at Publix this morning. I have got to find a way of disguising it. It tastes so strong compared to regular ground beef. I'm only buying it for it's iron content. It has the highest iron content I have seen so far ( 40% of the RDA ).

Thanks for your replies. Marcia
Jan 1990 - Dx CFS/ME/FM (URI's, Ataxia, myoclonus, orthostatic hypotension, insomnia, brain fog, swollen lymph nodes, sore throat... ) Completely Disabled (housebound and bedridden at times)

2004 - Digestive pain all the time.

May 2004 - Hiatal hernia, erosive gastritis, gastroparesis (endoscopy)
August 2004 - Colon polyps, diverticulitus, internal hemorrhoids (colonoscopy)

No relief from Nexium, Prilosec, Protonix, Zelnorm, Miralax, Imodium, Lomotil ...
July 2005 - GP recommended WFDFSFEFCF + vegan (Also, anything that hurts free)
Immediately stopped needing naps and digestive pain reduced.

Sept 2005 - GFDFCFSFEF + chemical free - Immediately stopped feeling jittery / buzzing and digestive issues were much better.

June 2006 - Dx B12 and iron deficient. Started B12 injections and using cast iron pan.

August 2006 - MYOCLONUS GONE. (off Klonopin)
September 2006 - ATAXIA, INSOMNIA and Feeling like the floor was moving under my feet gone.

June 19, 2007 - Positive DQ2, Dx Celiac

October 2007 - Sleeping like a baby, waking up with energy, but still having fatigue/stamina issues

Nov 2007 - Started Paleo diet for chronic hypoglycemia

April 2008 - GTT normal. I'm no longer hypoglycemic. Started Low oxalate diet for kidney stones.

May 1, 2008 - Began salt loading for OI/NMH - noticed immediately muscle weakness was gone. I was sodium deficient but my labs don't reflect it. Still working on OI and PEM.
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Posted 20 June 2006 - 11:10 AM

View Postmarciab, on Jun 20 2006, 07:55 AM, said:

I picked up some more BUFFALO :blink: meat at Publix this morning. I have got to find a way of disguising it. It tastes so strong compared to regular ground beef. I'm only buying it for it's iron content. It has the highest iron content I have seen so far ( 40% of the RDA ).


I like buffalo meat in chili, which gets lots of flavoring from the beans and spices anyway. You may find that works fine.
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Posted 20 June 2006 - 11:19 AM

View Postmarciab, on Jun 19 2006, 06:09 PM, said:

Hi All,

I heard from corporate and store manager today. They assured me that this was not the norm for them and competely unacceptable.

Thanks for letting me know your experiences at Wild Oats. I would have written them off if you hadn't told me your positive experiences.

They are sending me a gift certificate, so I will at least go back and try them again. It's 45 minutes one way, so I sure hope the meat dept is clean.

Why do I have to go through all this just to eat ?? :(

Marcia

A gift certificate....nice! I will also chime in and say that we have two Wild Oat's in my city and I have never encountered a sanitation or quality issue.
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