Get email alerts Get Celiac.com E-mail Alerts  




Celiac.com Sponsor:
Celiac.com Sponsor:




Ads by Google:






   Get email alerts  Subscribe to FREE Celiac.com email alerts

Cross-contamination Question
0

16 posts in this topic

I do not have Celiac Disease, but my Mother has been diagnosed

as having it. She is doing fairly well at managing her diet, but it seems

to me that she is becoming overly concerned/obsessed with certain

issues relating to her condition. My question is this: to what degree

must my Mother be concerned with cross-contamination?

For example: If a label on a loaf of bread declares the bread to

be gluten-free, is it safe to assume that the bread has not been

cross-contaminated with, lets say, wheat dust from some other

product being produced nearby? Lets suppose that this cross-

contamination HAS occurred. Would this presumably immeasurable

amount of wheat dust really contribute to the condition in an

adverse way?

Thanks,

Rad

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


Ads by Google:
If a label on a loaf of bread declares the bread to

be gluten-free, is it safe to assume that the bread has not been

cross-contaminated with, lets say, wheat dust from some other

product being produced nearby? Lets suppose that this cross-

contamination HAS occurred. Would this presumably immeasurable

amount of wheat dust really contribute to the condition in an

adverse way?

Thanks,

Rad

Cross-contamination is a serious issue for us. It is very possible that a loaf of gluten-free bread produced in a regular factory could be contaminated. And yes, it could be very bad, even if it is just a miniscule amount of contamination. The maltodextrin in one small vitamin tablet sent me into a spin for several days. It was a teeny-tiny amount, but it was enough. If a person gets enough "immeasurable amounts", it becomes enough to measure. Your mom is right to be concerned. As she gets used to the diet, it will be easier for her, and she will seem less obsessed. I am glad that you are being supportive of her. This is a major change in her life, and it is difficult to achieve. Please keep in mind that celiac is genetic, and you should consider getting yourself tested, even if you have no symptoms. Take care of yourself, and help her read labels!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am a member at Jessica's (angel_jd1) board, and I get all the postings made there via e-mail....I recently got an e-mail regarding cross-contamination....it may sound ridiculous for a non-Celiac, but this stuff is essential to know and practice:

Help with kitchen cross-contamination

Here are cross-contamination potentiel issues

1. Replace toaster/toaster oven. Never use the same toaster/oven that

gluten products have been used in.

2. Replace all cutting boards. Old boards may be kept separate for

use with gluten foods.

3. Replace wooden or teflon cooking utensils. Old untensils may be

kept separate for use with gluten foods.

4. Replace porous pots/pans/skillets. Teflon and cast iron are porous

and retain gluten from past cooking.

5. Replace pans with seams. Past gluten products can easily be

retained in the seam.

Never wash gluten and gluten-free dishes in the same dish water.

Use disposable rags/sponges if your kitchen is not totally gluten-free.

8. Many issues one forgets to look at: can openers

colanders

pets (food, licking)

stamps, envelopes

stamp hinges (for collectors)

lipstick

toothpaste

9. Very important: silver drawer: there are always crumbs there.

10. shared tables, like at work. I frequently sit down to have lunch

& find someone else's sandwich crumbs all over.

11. Perhaps remembering to wash your hands before eating finger food.

I know our moms always told us to do this, but it's easy to forget.

There are so many potential contaminants in the house, especially for

those of us with pets or kids, that you might not even realize you've

touched something that's potentially dangerous.

12. bulk bins at the grocery: it has one of the most cross-

contaminated potentiel.

One has to ask the owners to put some aside when they have a new bag.

13. At school: Gym class was held in the multi-purpose room

(lunchroom) where kids had just eaten breakfast. Custodians swept the

floor after breakfast, but didn't wash it. My son crawled around on

the floor during gym class, wiggled his loose teeth...gluten.

Kids met for chess club in the library during lunch, so they ate

their lunch in the library. Crumbs on the carpet get on little

fingers.

Kids eat snacks in the hallways. Crumbs get tracked into the

classroom. Five year olds spent a lot of time crawling on the floor.

Some brands of play "clay" (ex. Rose Art) contain gluten. Some finger

paints also do. Check out all art supplies used in the art room and

in the classroom.

14. the conveyor belts at the checkout counters in supermarkets: for

ex.: leaking flour bags, etc

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wow celiac3270, you are a wealth of information! Thanks so much for all the tips, it really helps us newbies!!!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thank you celiac3270 for that info, I am a semi newbie and some of that I didn't know either.

As to bread, to the original poster I can say that we prefer Gluten Free Pantry white bread mix to any store bought. I've adapted it to how my husband likes it. I add real eggs, a teaspoon of salt, some rice bran, a teaspoon of light cream and real butter and corn oil. It tastes like the bread from Charlotte's Bakery. I use a Breadman bread machine, but it can be made in the oven. Remember, the pans, and mixing implements must be so clean and gluten free and if they are like celiac3270 advises (teflon or silverstone coated, buy new) . My Breadman is only used for gluten free bread, always has been since I purchased it last November. I can never use it for regular breads as I never want gluten infesting it.

As for mail order, www.kinnikinnick.com has good hamburger rolls (gluten free of course).

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites




debmidge,

I use that bread mix too, and LOVE it. Do you find the cream and oil make it a little less crumbly? I am always looking for ways to improve on that!

Bridget

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Dang, thanks celiac3270.. now I need to go jump off a bridge, err.. I mean try to stick to that list. =)

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Kisses from glutened significant other

Am I getting cross-contamination from my boyfriend?

:wub:

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Jill, yeah you can be. Least I believe it is possible from things I read on here. I don't know how long after he ate he is "safe" to kiss. But if you get him to brush his teeth, floss, mouthwash.. and maybe wash his lips? lol.. it should be fine.

Or maybe that's over doing it. Trying using the search option for the forums, pretty sure I saw a thread about that on here somewhere.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks you two!!! I guess I'll have to tell my boyfriend about this. :wub:

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You're welcome. And while it could be an annoyance, love conquers all as they say. =)

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have to add one more potential cross contamination situation. If you hold hands around the table to say grace with people who have handled or prepared regular bread before sitting down, you can easily pick up crumbs from their hands and transfer it to any hand to mouth food you consume. :o My husband always wants to hold hands while we say grace, until he realized that when we both prepared sandwiches for lunch, he was transferring his sandwich bread gluten to my hands which would hold my sandwich and I would possibly consume that gluten. Much to his credit, HE actually recognized the potential contamination, so we no longer do a hand holding grace. ;)

BURDEE

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Booja (Bridget): Let me know if you want my directions on the gluten-free pantry bread mix extras that I use. Deb

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

why is there any concern over a toaster oven (as long as you're not placing directly on the rack). i understand a toaster - that was one of the first things i did when i was diagnosed. but to me a toaster oven is like a regular oven and i use both with the same caution (tin foil, pan, etc.). so i'm not sure what the cross-contamination is there.

also, i had never heard of the separate pots and pans. it does make sense, but doesn't that mean no eating out ? i doubt any restaurant would use separate pots/pans just for celiacs or do people just only order things that wouldn't be made in those?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My son was just diagnosed with celiac. He is 13. I am so concerned I am going to cross contaminate him. If at his 6 month recheck he has gluten in his system I will feel awful because I know he is doing his best to avoid gluten. How do you avoid cc with a busy household with two teenage (or almost 12 & 13) boys a husband, a dog (that he loves and cuddles) and myself?? I'm making myself crazy over this. :o

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
0

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      103,895
    • Total Posts
      919,534
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Test Results
      Update: I am about at my wit's end. I won't be able to see my new doctor until July 17 to get a referral to a GI doctor, so I continue to eat gluten and the effects continue to worsen. Today my boss, whom I have been working with for 12 years, and I had a meeting where he said he's noticed a change in many things, such as speech, not articulating well, forgetfulness, and other things that are affecting my work product. I finally told him I know there is something wrong with me medically and I've been trying to get to the doctor to no avail. I recall those four weeks early in the year when I tried out gluten free and was beginning to feel much better- more present, more sharp, and then went back on gluten in preparation for the blood test.  I just don't think I can do this gluten thing any longer and am thinking of going cold-turkey gluten free.  I'm 54 years old, am beginning not to care about a diagnosis because I just want to feel better and be able to do what I need to do. Because of how I felt going off of gluten earlier in the year, and eating gluten free when I was on the McDougall plan years ago, and how I feel while doing this gluten challenge, I am pretty convinced that my issue is gluten.  Any words of encouragement would be welcome.  If you've done gluten free and never looked back, tell me about it. 
    • Gardasil
      "I got this vaccination in 2009 when I was 20 and it completely altered my life. Made my celiac disease so much worse, sleep 15-18 hours a day, SIBO, it has completely altered my life since getting this vaccination. My doctor has two twin girls about my age and they both have digestion problems after receiving gardasil Thank you I have a young daughter and have wondered this exact question posed by the poster and your response has given me great pause about this issue which may come up in years to come. I am sorry to hear this wreak havoc on your life, but simultaneously thank you for sharing this detail to help those of us that have likely been decades misdiagnosed celiacs now raising children. Thank you.
    • Gluten does WHAT to the brain?
      "Wondering what kind of life my brother could have had - if  he had celiac - constantly haunts me" My sympathies that is just tragic, as this story is.  I hope you are at peace knowing you are aware of your celiac and help so many lost, scared, and confused celiacs here. It can never bring back your brother but I hope it can give soften some of what you feel that was/is beyond your control. His suffering and your loss has made you a better advocate to yourself and in your work helping us. I don't like my body or my  brain on gluten either. I do fear that people overlook the toll inflammation takes on the brain. It likely may explain decades of mental illness that was brain based inflammation unknown until changes in technology advancement catch up. However consuming gluten to study how one enters psychosis may not be the best method. Do no harm.  
    • Gardasil
      I got this vaccination in 2009 when I was 20 and it completely altered my life. Made my celiac disease so much worse, sleep 15-18 hours a day, SIBO, it has completely altered my life since getting this vaccination. My doctor has two twin girls about my age and they both have digestion problems after receiving gardasil
    • Gardasil And Celiac
      I have this same issue! I got gardasil in 2009 and have never been the same since. Celiac disease, thyroid problems. I used to be healthy and active and since I got that shot I have never been the same.
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Entries

  • Recent Status Updates

    • Jmg  »  admin

      Hello Admin!
      I don't know whether this is of interest to post on your articles feed:
      http://pratt.duke.edu/about/news/window-guts-brain
      Kind Regards,
      Matt
      · 2 replies
    • celiac sharon  »  cyclinglady

      Hello cycling lady, have you noticed my picture is showing up as you?  Have no idea why but it's rather disconcerting to see my picture and your words 😉  Do you know how to fix it?  You seem to have far more experience with this board than I do
      · 1 reply
    • Larry Gessner  »  cyclinglady

      Hi There, I don't know if there is a place for videos in the forum. I just watched "The Truth About Gluten" I think it is a good video. I would like to share it somewhere but don't know where it should go. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
      Here is the link if you have never watched it.
      https://youtu.be/IU6jVEwpjnE Thank You,
      Larry
      · 2 replies
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      60,941
    • Most Online
      1,763

    Newest Member
    py21w23
    Joined