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The Truth About Splenda


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#16 brizzo

 
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Posted 09 September 2006 - 09:36 AM

you can buy 100% organic sugar from domino, and man... is it tasty! It's got a sort of brownish tint to it...here's a picture http://www.dominosug...cts/organic.asp you can buy it at Krogers/wal-mart. b.
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#17 Nancym

 
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Posted 09 September 2006 - 12:46 PM

In preindustrial ages they refined sugar like this:

Clarify the cane juice
Boil it down into a thick syrup to concentrate and crystallize the sucrose
Drain off the impurity-laden syrup (molasses)
Washing the remaining syrup from the crystals

Sounds innocent?

Well... the cane stalks were first crushed and pressed and the resulting juice was heated with lime (not the fruit, the chemical) and a substance such as egg white or animal blood, which would coagulate and trap the impurities in a scum that could be skimmed off.

(bunch of other stuff)

Then it was poured into a cone-shaped clay mold where it crystalized into raw sugar. The cones were left to stand inverted for a few days, and the molasses would run off through a hole in the tip.

Then a fine wet clay was packed over the wide end of the cone.

Heh! So much for thinking sugar is pure and natural.

They still use lime though.
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#18 VydorScope

 
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Posted 09 September 2006 - 12:52 PM

Anyone interested in some in-depth, reputable articles on the real health dangers of not just Splenda (chlorinated sugar) but Aspartame as well, can peruse the library of Joseph Mercola, at mercola.com. I now use stevia for my coffee...



Hmm a site buy a guy selling books/etc that forces you to sign up with your email to his spam list before you can read his articls... most of which are full of "maybes" and "mights"... not what I would call "reputbable".

The only thing I could find on his site to do with Splenda that is based on fact is that some ppl react to it. Yes some ppl do, just like some ppl die from eating peanuts. That does not mean the world should exterminate the peanut plant.

Ugh here I go again getting drawn in to a debeat I want no part of... I wont post/check this thread anymore.

I agree Stevia is a great option and when it falls in price (as of last week in my store its 2.5 times the cost of splenda per serving, thats liquid stevai vs powered splenda, cheapest of both lines) I plan to try it myself.
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Posted 09 September 2006 - 01:00 PM

Funny, this is the second thread I've been on in the last two weeks where I found myself defending Dr. Mercola. Ursula, where are you?
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Posted 10 September 2006 - 06:22 AM

How about Stevia, its none chemical

my niece has ms.

She used splenda and after a few weeks she had an attack of unknown origin. The attack receded when she quit the splenda. So I stay away from it as a rule.

Stevia is a natural plant from south america that has been used their for a long time without the contorversy that surrounds splenda arising. Taste is as good or better than splenda to me.

A couple things to be aware of with stevia. it is sold in two forms one is packets and that is not pure and has a corn derivitive mixed in.

The pure stuff is like 28 dollars for about 6-8 oz. However, 1/4 teaspoon equals 3/4 cup approximately. thats why they cut ist with the corn derivtive in the packets- to make it more equivalent in measurement.

Be very careful to add just a very little stevia at a time. if you put too much in it tastes really bad.
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Posted 10 September 2006 - 07:21 AM

I'm pointing out the obvious here but someone has to do it! Natural doesn't always mean harmless.

Dr. Mecola is very interested in inspiring fear, uncertainty and doubt in order to get you to buy his products. While not everything on his web site is utter BS, IMHO, a lot of it is. Or is at least somewhat tainted with the FUD factor. Personally, I prefer to get my information from more objective sources who don't stand to make a lot of money on fear mongering.
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Posted 10 September 2006 - 10:16 AM

How about Stevia, its none chemical

my niece has ms.

She used splenda and after a few weeks she had an attack of unknown origin. The attack receded when she quit the splenda. So I stay away from it as a rule.

Stevia is a natural plant from south america that has been used their for a long time without the contorversy that surrounds splenda arising. Taste is as good or better than splenda to me.

A couple things to be aware of with stevia. it is sold in two forms one is packets and that is not pure and has a corn derivitive mixed in.

The pure stuff is like 28 dollars for about 6-8 oz. However, 1/4 teaspoon equals 3/4 cup approximately. thats why they cut ist with the corn derivtive in the packets- to make it more equivalent in measurement.

Be very careful to add just a very little stevia at a time. if you put too much in it tastes really bad.


I have heard about Stevia. A friend of mine who swears for it and against Splenda loves it. I will check out my local food store. Thanks for mentioning it.
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Posted 10 September 2006 - 10:39 AM

I have heard about Stevia. A friend of mine who swears for it and against Splenda loves it. I will check out my local food store. Thanks for mentioning it.

glad it may help. there is also a liquid form. It doesn't effect your blood sugar, it has no calories, and its sweeter than sugar.
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Posted 12 September 2006 - 02:26 PM

I am a believer in Splenda being "evil" as with all artificial sweeteners... I mean I'm not about to run a one-woman campaign to get people to stop eating it, but I know that it makes me feel ill and I don't trust it one bit. Not saying I trust the sugar industry more, but rather that I wouldn't touch Splenda or any other artificial sweetener with a 10-foot pool.

As for Dr Mercola - I can't even spend 2 minutes on that site and actually think he's legit. That site screams "profiteering shyster" to me. Some people talk about him like he's G-d and all he says is the gospel. That scares me. More power to you if you've found stuff on there that's helped you - That's great. Everyone deserves to find things that work for them to have a healthier life. I'm sure much of what he says holds some truth and some value and some of his theories are dead-on (especially his advocacy of gluten-free diets). But I would take everything I read on there with a grain of salt... I think he gives a bad name to natural health practitioners.
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#25 Michi8

 
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Posted 12 September 2006 - 02:53 PM

Be very careful to add just a very little stevia at a time. if you put too much in it tastes really bad.


You've got that right! I put one of those packets of stevia in my coffee, and it rendered it undrinkable. Yuck! I'd like to give it a shot again, but with the "pure" stevia...in a very small dosage...I like my coffee sweet, but not that sweet!

As for Dr Mercola - I can't even spend 2 minutes on that site and actually think he's legit. That site screams "profiteering shyster" to me. Some people talk about him like he's G-d and all he says is the gospel. That scares me. More power to you if you've found stuff on there that's helped you - That's great. Everyone deserves to find things that work for them to have a healthier life. I'm sure much of what he says holds some truth and some value and some of his theories are dead-on (especially his advocacy of gluten-free diets). But I would take everything I read on there with a grain of salt... I think he gives a bad name to natural health practitioners.


Any website has to be read with a grain of salt...after all, you can't believe everything you read! Besides, I'm totally disgusted that I have to give up my email addy to read an article on Dr Mercola's (or anyone else's) website. No information is worth getting spam email. ;)

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Posted 12 September 2006 - 03:14 PM

Michelle - Ditto re: giving out personal info to read an article.

Re: taking all websites with a grain of salt - I agree, and that goes for THIS WEBSITE, too! I've seen a lot on this forum that seems pretty sketchy, and much questionable information presented as fact by people with no medical background. (In addition, of course, to a lot of good info and support!) I think that people who are in between a rock and a hard place healthwise are all the more likely to accept anything that seems to give them an answer without thinking critically about it or doing real research. I know that when I've first been really sick from the various conditions I have (when I first realized how sick I was getting after eating, and also when I first became really disabled from the fibromyalgia) I was desperate for an answer even if it wasn't from a knowledgeable or legitimate source. Damn, I probably would have tried faith healing if someone had suggested it to me!
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Posted 12 September 2006 - 03:21 PM

It looks like any site member can post whatever they want on that site. My favorite is the doctor who has several articles objecting to the socialist practice of forced sharing of gluesticks in classrooms.

Also, there's a book-length article on how MS is caused by barium poisoning (lyme proponents take note).



Gluesticks? I'm not surprised.

Anybody can put any nonsense they want on the internet. Using an actual scientific study is probably a better idea.
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Posted 13 September 2006 - 02:12 PM

http://www.sweetleaf.com/coupon.pdf

check out this coupon for the liquid flavors i found, i didn't even know they had flavors, i have been using stevia for a while now and grow a plant of it, it saved me! The sweetleaf flavors have absolutley no bitter aftertaste, i can't speak for other brands this is the only one i buy, but i love the root beer stevia in sparkling water, the vanilla creme stevia in tea and in recipes in place of vanilla extract and the apricot nectar stevia in my plain water to help me drink a lot more in a day. Enjoy!
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:56 AM

I copied this quote:
" In the coming months we can expect to see a river of media hype expounding the virtues of Splenda/sucralose. We should not be fooled again into accepting the safety of a toxic chemical on the blessing of the FDA and saturation advertising. In terms of potential long-term human toxicity we should regard sucralose with its chemical cousin DDT, the insecticide now outlawed because of its horrendous long term toxicities at even minute trace levels in human, avian, and mammalian tissues."

I get real sick drinking Aspartame and always did. I never drink diet sodas because I generally feel sickly about an hour after. Thanks for this information. As a young girl in the 60's I spent my whole summer vacation in the park. Remember when they had "Parkies". I was infatuated with mine, he was probably 17 yrs. old and I followed him everywhere. Anyway our park had a big baseball diamond and they would come with a small tractor hauling this tank thing that sprayed DDT unto the field and into the air like a hugh cloud. The cloud would could over to us and I can even remember running in and out of the clouds.

Then I would walk home along the bay of Green Bay and smell all the chemicals that the papermills were pumping into the air. It would sting your throat some days.

Is it any wonder I'm chemical sensitive. I can't even tolorate the smell of bleach. I don't use cleaners at all. Just vinegar or Melaluca (sp) (its tea tree oil.)

I will once in a while have cozy shack tapioca pudding with splenda. I'll have to stop buying it although what kept me from eating it everyday was how it made me feel. Taste good though. :(


Thanks again for the heads up
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