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#1 Corkdarrr

 
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Posted 11 September 2006 - 05:44 AM

Two months gluten-free. First week was AMAZING.
since then, I'm sliding back down that slippery, slippery slope of feeling like crap.
I don't know if I've gotten sloppy with my diet, or if my body is discovering its other intolerances. Either way, I have a really hard time focusing all my energy (eating gluten-free) on something that's still making me feel like crap. (Granted, not NEARLY as crappy as before.)
So I've heard here and there about the elimination diet. What do you think? Have I just lost my patience all too soon? Should I try it? What do I need to know before starting it? Where's the best place to get info on it (books, websites, etc...)?
Any feedback and info is much appreciated!

- Courtney
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Courtney - 25
Columbia, SC

Gluten-free since July 8, 2006
Casein-free since October 16, 2006
Went six weeks, and fell back into a deliciously painful world of cheese.
Casein-free (again and for serious this time) December 11, 2006
Stupid cheese addiction....2/07

Dx Hypothyroid in 1993
Dx Gluten & Casein Sensitive through Enterolab 10/06
Dx Adrenal *Exhaustion* 2/07




Originally from WI, I am still in denial over my newfound casein intolerance. I fear I will not be allowed back into the state if I can no longer eat cheese and drink milk. This could pose some trouble over holidays when I wish to visit my family. It also poses a problem involving the severe rage I feel when I have to throw away somebody's unfinished cheese sticks. That is so wrong.

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#2 marciab

 
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Posted 11 September 2006 - 06:09 AM

It actually an easy concept. Especially since you already are familiar with withdrawals and food deprivation. :lol:

Just get the common food allergy / sensitivities (soy, dairy, eggs, corn - you already took out wheat) and anything else that you know tears up your digestive tract out of your diet. For me that meant meat, tomatoes, chocolate, coffee, onions, garlic .... yep, I was a mess. :blink:

You probably already have a good idea of what your "safe foods" are. These are the ones you can eat everytime without any side effects. For me it was a plain baked potato, unsweetened apple sauce, white rice, peas, asparagus, etc.

Your goal is to keep your digestive system calm / normal. You may need some digestive enzymes or probiotics to help with this. My doc had me eating papaya, mango and pineapple since they are full of digestive enzymes and my food choices were so limited. And I use oils, like EVOO to keep me regular. Regular bm's will help your whole digestive tract since nothing is backing up in there. <_<

Once you have attained calm / normal digestion you can start adding in new foods. But, you have to add new foods a little at a time.

Even if you react to certain foods at first you can try them again later. It took me several attempts to get tomatoes back into my diet. But, now they are fine. Chocolate, too :D Dairy, corn, and eggs still get me. :o

You will need to keep a food diary so you can see what you reacted to. And track your meds too since we know those can really mess up your stomach too.

Hope this help you gets you started... Marcia
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Jan 1990 - Dx CFS/ME/FM (URI's, Ataxia, myoclonus, orthostatic hypotension, insomnia, brain fog, swollen lymph nodes, sore throat... ) Completely Disabled (housebound and bedridden at times)

2004 - Digestive pain all the time.

May 2004 - Hiatal hernia, erosive gastritis, gastroparesis (endoscopy)
August 2004 - Colon polyps, diverticulitus, internal hemorrhoids (colonoscopy)

No relief from Nexium, Prilosec, Protonix, Zelnorm, Miralax, Imodium, Lomotil ...
July 2005 - GP recommended WFDFSFEFCF + vegan (Also, anything that hurts free)
Immediately stopped needing naps and digestive pain reduced.

Sept 2005 - GFDFCFSFEF + chemical free - Immediately stopped feeling jittery / buzzing and digestive issues were much better.

June 2006 - Dx B12 and iron deficient. Started B12 injections and using cast iron pan.

August 2006 - MYOCLONUS GONE. (off Klonopin)
September 2006 - ATAXIA, INSOMNIA and Feeling like the floor was moving under my feet gone.

June 19, 2007 - Positive DQ2, Dx Celiac

October 2007 - Sleeping like a baby, waking up with energy, but still having fatigue/stamina issues

Nov 2007 - Started Paleo diet for chronic hypoglycemia

April 2008 - GTT normal. I'm no longer hypoglycemic. Started Low oxalate diet for kidney stones.

May 1, 2008 - Began salt loading for OI/NMH - noticed immediately muscle weakness was gone. I was sodium deficient but my labs don't reflect it. Still working on OI and PEM.

#3 Corkdarrr

 
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Posted 11 September 2006 - 06:38 AM

It actually an easy concept. Especially since you already are familiar with withdrawals and food deprivation. :lol:

Just get the common food allergy / sensitivities (soy, dairy, eggs, corn - you already took out wheat) and anything else that you know tears up your digestive tract out of your diet. For me that meant meat, tomatoes, chocolate, coffee, onions, garlic .... yep, I was a mess. :blink:

You probably already have a good idea of what your "safe foods" are. These are the ones you can eat everytime without any side effects. For me it was a plain baked potato, unsweetened apple sauce, white rice, peas, asparagus, etc.

Your goal is to keep your digestive system calm / normal. You may need some digestive enzymes or probiotics to help with this. My doc had me eating papaya, mango and pineapple since they are full of digestive enzymes and my food choices were so limited. And I use oils, like EVOO to keep me regular. Regular bm's will help your whole digestive tract since nothing is backing up in there. <_<

Once you have attained calm / normal digestion you can start adding in new foods. But, you have to add new foods a little at a time.

Even if you react to certain foods at first you can try them again later. It took me several attempts to get tomatoes back into my diet. But, now they are fine. Chocolate, too :D Dairy, corn, and eggs still get me. :o

You will need to keep a food diary so you can see what you reacted to. And track your meds too since we know those can really mess up your stomach too.

Hope this help you gets you started... Marcia



Thanks Marcia

I already keep a food journal - have been on and off for years, if only so I can see just HOW much I"m eating! As for my safe foods...it all seems to have gotten jumbled up into one gigantic ball of abdominal pain. I suppose that just means some extra experimentation. After cutting everything out did you find that you had like a detox period where you just felt absolutely awful for a few days? How long did your whole elimination diet take? Do you know of any books or anything on the subject? How many questions in a row could I possibly ask you? :lol:
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Courtney - 25
Columbia, SC

Gluten-free since July 8, 2006
Casein-free since October 16, 2006
Went six weeks, and fell back into a deliciously painful world of cheese.
Casein-free (again and for serious this time) December 11, 2006
Stupid cheese addiction....2/07

Dx Hypothyroid in 1993
Dx Gluten & Casein Sensitive through Enterolab 10/06
Dx Adrenal *Exhaustion* 2/07




Originally from WI, I am still in denial over my newfound casein intolerance. I fear I will not be allowed back into the state if I can no longer eat cheese and drink milk. This could pose some trouble over holidays when I wish to visit my family. It also poses a problem involving the severe rage I feel when I have to throw away somebody's unfinished cheese sticks. That is so wrong.

#4 marciab

 
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Posted 11 September 2006 - 08:01 AM

Most people can eat the safe foods I listed so that would at least give you a place to start.

My whole digestive system was a mess from top to bottom too. I had food coming up the wrong way and food coming out - well you really don't want to know :ph34r: :lol:

I have felt awful most of the time for about 16 years now, so I would not have noticed a detox. I hear it is common though. I did notice when I started feeling better though. It took about 4 months before I was feeling good about eating again. By then I had a few more food choices too. :)

Everytime I introduce a new food, I run the risk that it will make me feel crappy again. Yesterday, I ate some tortilla chips that nailed me. :( Only for a few hours though :)

I've been at this for over a year now and I am still adding foods in slowly. I added coconut, leeks, and garlic back successfully for the first time last week. :D I have to go slowly with these though since they have been a problem before. I have black beans in the frig to try, but I am very leary about these. These really tore me up last time. :unsure:

My diet is pretty much all fruits and veggies and "safe" meats. I do better if I stay away from processed grains, but I am fine with whole buckwheat, millet, quinao, etc.

I don't know of any books on the elimination diet, but I do all of my research on the internet. I am severely allergic to dust mites. Everyone has to figure out for themselves which foods they can eat.

Hope this helps ... Marcia
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Jan 1990 - Dx CFS/ME/FM (URI's, Ataxia, myoclonus, orthostatic hypotension, insomnia, brain fog, swollen lymph nodes, sore throat... ) Completely Disabled (housebound and bedridden at times)

2004 - Digestive pain all the time.

May 2004 - Hiatal hernia, erosive gastritis, gastroparesis (endoscopy)
August 2004 - Colon polyps, diverticulitus, internal hemorrhoids (colonoscopy)

No relief from Nexium, Prilosec, Protonix, Zelnorm, Miralax, Imodium, Lomotil ...
July 2005 - GP recommended WFDFSFEFCF + vegan (Also, anything that hurts free)
Immediately stopped needing naps and digestive pain reduced.

Sept 2005 - GFDFCFSFEF + chemical free - Immediately stopped feeling jittery / buzzing and digestive issues were much better.

June 2006 - Dx B12 and iron deficient. Started B12 injections and using cast iron pan.

August 2006 - MYOCLONUS GONE. (off Klonopin)
September 2006 - ATAXIA, INSOMNIA and Feeling like the floor was moving under my feet gone.

June 19, 2007 - Positive DQ2, Dx Celiac

October 2007 - Sleeping like a baby, waking up with energy, but still having fatigue/stamina issues

Nov 2007 - Started Paleo diet for chronic hypoglycemia

April 2008 - GTT normal. I'm no longer hypoglycemic. Started Low oxalate diet for kidney stones.

May 1, 2008 - Began salt loading for OI/NMH - noticed immediately muscle weakness was gone. I was sodium deficient but my labs don't reflect it. Still working on OI and PEM.

#5 emcmaster

 
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Posted 11 September 2006 - 05:45 PM

I am still sort of on an elimination diet, even though I've added back some grains in flour forms. (It appears, at least at this moment, that I am tolerating rice, tapioca, corn and potato in flour form but not in grain form. :blink: )

I ate only fruits, vegetables and lean proteins. If you know for sure that rice isn't a problem, then eat that. I, however, wanted to make 100% sure that rice wasn't a cause for my problems.

The rule of thumb I used when adding back foods was that I added only one "questionable" food per week. If I didn't react to it immediately, I continued to eat it along with my staple diet and the next week I added back another food. If I did react to it, I stopped eating it and returned to my staples until my symptoms went away.

I have lots of recipes that involve only fruits, veggies and proteins, so if you're looking for stuff to eat, PM me.

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