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#1 justme

 
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Posted 11 September 2006 - 10:02 PM

cleansing? fasting?

good idea? bad idea?
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#2 mamaw

 
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Posted 12 September 2006 - 06:34 PM

Why do you want to do that. For what reason? Just wondering.......I think its good for some things & people & others it can be a diaster. And the r ingredients you would use are? I'm just curious so I can't weigh in until the initial ?'s are answered.

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 01:15 AM

Just me,

Dont do it! I am a big advocate of natural medicine but the whole cleansing/detox thing is not healthy. I did it and got Soooooooooooooooo sick. I think when it comes to alternative treatments, one rule of thumb comes to mind. If it seems extreme, then it cant possibly bennefit the body. One more rule of thumb, if someone tells you that you need to go through a cleansing program and tells you that in order to get better you need to rid yourself of toxins (which will make you feel like hell) Beware!

Im starting to realize that the body responds more to a healthy diet and light excersize and stress reduction. I think that the more you come into balance with your lifestyle, the more your body will begin to rid itself of toxins on its own. Naturally.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 03:49 AM

I've always wanted to try it, but there are SO many different 'cleansing' programs out there, and some of them can be really dangerous if you don't know what you're doing.
I like the idea of cleaning your body out, but yes. It will definately make you feel like crap.
I've tabled that idea until I come across some very compelling information or suggestions.

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 07:34 AM

Had a massage this week and the bottom of my feet had knots in the stomach/intestine area. She suggested I do a cleanse. I didn't. Don't know enough about them. I was wondering if anyone else has this situation. :blink:
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 07:41 AM

Had a massage this week and the bottom of my feet had knots in the stomach/intestine area. She suggested I do a cleanse. I didn't. Don't know enough about them. I was wondering if anyone else has this situation. :blink:

I think I'm not allowed to post the website, but I found one by "Dr. Natura"...It was simple and easy on the system....doesn't taste nasty or anything.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 08:27 AM

I think I'm not allowed to post the website, but I found one by "Dr. Natura"...It was simple and easy on the system....doesn't taste nasty or anything.


Yes, it's quite acceptable to post a link to that site.

That said, be careful with cleanses. They CAN be very beneficial.......if it's the right one for you. People with damaged intestines (which we are, until we're completely healed) can react quite violently to those. I sure did! It was a cleanse (all natural ingredients) that put me over the edge into full-blown celiac disease in the spring of last year. I started the cleanse last year in May, and was violently ill until October because of it, until I figured it out and went gluten-free.
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#8 mle_ii

 
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 08:48 AM

Is there any science or research behind these cleanses? Colon, liver, etc?

Fasting, absolutely I've seen some research and see the benefit.

As for cleansing, I've not seen anything yet that leads me to believe that there is any basis in fact here.

After having the ultimate colon cleanse (prep for a colonoscopy) I didn't see anything that even closely resembled what these cleanses show to be in the GI. I think it's all just the contents of the cleanse formula binding up the GI contents that you see and not what is "stuck" to your insides.

Honestly I'm a sceptic, but I'm open to hear differently. About the only cleanse that makes sense to me is water and lots of it. And perhaps a massage for getting the "gunk" out of the muscle tissue.

Thanks,
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:56 PM

I have similar questions at this pt for myself. I have done some of both. Fasting only 1 time and my nutritionist says my body is too weak to take that. I have done gall bladder flushes and after each one have felt rearkably good for 2-3 weeks. My nutritionist says this is only a temporary fix and depending on ingredients used is hard on you kidneys (magnesium sulfite or epsom salts) but their are alternatives that are less difficult. My last nutriitonist was a big advocate for flushes. they are pretty much painless. On the curezone web site their are "recovered" celiac sufferers who claim they did it through cleansing and pure diet/exercise. but this is just anecdotal and as yet vague for me.

I think the most important thing is to get lots of information and not to do anything without a health care professional advising you. chiropractors, nutritionists, kinesiologists, naturopaths and homeopaths would be the ones to see on this. Our body's are so complex and on occassions people can make themselves sick doing cleansing. I know that for aboout two hours of my 3 day fast I was in extreme gastric distress. Fortunately I was on vacation with a dr who was advising and monitoring my progress. He was my sisters boyfriend. However, I have done several gall bladder flushes with no pain. My dr. has said I am not strong enough to tolerate a cleanse because of the depletion from celiac. so be cautious.

These techniques are medicine and need to not be taken into our own hands without a nutritionist or something like that to help you. Otherwise you can do almost everything right but not do it long enough or in combonation with other treatments and then its all a waste of effort. thats what I did for a year of my life. All of the cleanses do take time effort and involve doing things that aren't pleasant. I will say that I did see great results after each cleanse in that my energy and mind were great for about 3 weeks and in that respect I can see how it would be addicting. I stopped because my doctor wanted me to take a break. and I still wonder if I had kept going and done all the other stuff if I would be better now. their are people who claim that they are"symptom free through cleansing and good living. so was it the good living or the cleansing. uuuuughhghghhgh

Is clean living/diet/exersize enough. what results has that produced? I would like that to be the answer, though it may not be any easier or harder. Can anyone comment on how their problems have changed by doing that. that they have been able to add foods back in? that would be really encouraging to know about whether it was through cleansing or not.

I know it is hard to tolerate views that differ from ours and so if this email made you frustrated please know that it is only my intent to help others and to help myself clarify how to fight this nasty disease not to frustrate anyone. Lin
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Posted 15 September 2006 - 05:25 PM

I've done them in the past before going gluten-free but only for a couple of days at a time....there are different kinds so to do it without a qualified practioner supporting you I wouldn't do one.....
I was always told you will get sicker before you will start to get better.If your body is in a weaken state already I could see why it would make you worse off....
I truly believe in alternative health but it also comes with risks if not followered through properly. I think alot of times that's where some say its Quackery .Quackes in every profession anymore........


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Posted 15 September 2006 - 05:44 PM

I have done that with doc by my side went on for 4 days all went very well. Thank goodness. I was on what I call old timey foods greens, beets and a few others at first it was odd I did not like the taste then on the 2nd day it all tasted great I wanted all I could get of those foods and how they were mixed up. I was put on it because of my gall bladder. It was inflamed they said. All I can say was ouch. never been like that before. caught in time.
If you do that make sure you have your pros. on board.
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