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Adrenal Fatigue And Celiac Disease


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#1 gointribal

 
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 05:27 PM

I was wondering if anyone else had adrenal fatigue syndrom before they found out that they had Celiac disease? What I've been reading is that one of the stressors that can lead to adrenal fatigue is gluten intolerance. I had adrenal fatigue syndrom for about 2 years, started feeling better then found out that I had celiac disease. Is it possible to have not known that I had celiac disease and got the adrenal thing from that? Because I also read that a lot people don't know that they have celiac disease until something major happens in their life (which is what happened with me)

So I'm kinda confussed, if anyone knows about this I would love some tips:-)
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#2 CarlaB

 
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 05:44 PM

For me it's like the chicken and egg. I don't know which really came first.

My doc, who's a holistic doc, has a different outlook than conventional medicine. I do not know if I agree with her or not, but we'll see. She says that if I can get my body working right again, and it may take a couple years, that the food sensitivities will go away in the reverse order in which they came. I believe this to a point, but I don't believe that the gluten problem will go away since it's genetic (I should note, I have gluten intolerant genes, not celiac). I also believe the gluten problem contributed to the adrenal problem, and vice versa. I told that to my doc. She said that conventional medicine (she's also an MD) says that is correct, but holistic medicine says I'll be able to tolerate gluten better once I reverse the damage that's been done. I asked if she meant that contamination won't be such a problem, i.e. I'll be able to pick croutons off my salad instead of worrying about the crumbs. She answered that she thought I ocassionally might even be able to eat one or two croutons.

I am not suggesting that anyone do as she says, or that I agree because I really do not know. If in the future I can order food that I know is gluten-free and not make a fuss over contamination, that will be wonderful. I don't think I see any croutons in my future :P . I would still never knowingly eat gluten again because I think in the end it was what was the cause of the breakdown of my whole system. But, if I quit getting sick for 8 days every time I get contaminated, I'll sure be happy about that!
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 06:33 PM

So how do u know if u have adrenal fatigue and can one do anything about it?? I found that ya'll are smarter/more experienced/ better informed than my gp.......... So it seems more effective to ask ya'll than pay to get brushed off by him!!

Thanx thanx!

So how do u know if u have adrenal fatigue and can one do anything about it?? I found that ya'll are smarter/more experienced/ better informed than my gp.......... So it seems more effective to ask ya'll than pay to get brushed off by him!!

Thanx thanx!
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Posted 28 September 2006 - 05:58 AM

So how do u know if u have adrenal fatigue and can one do anything about it?? I found that ya'll are smarter/more experienced/ better informed than my gp.......... So it seems more effective to ask ya'll than pay to get brushed off by him!!

Thanx thanx!

So how do u know if u have adrenal fatigue and can one do anything about it?? I found that ya'll are smarter/more experienced/ better informed than my gp.......... So it seems more effective to ask ya'll than pay to get brushed off by him!!

Thanx thanx!

Adelle, I was diagnosed by hair analysis. If you get the book I mentioned before, there's a test in it you can take that will tell you based on your symptoms. The book also tells a lot about healing from it. You can search for adrenal fatigue, and adrenal burnout on the internet and learn a lot, but the book goes into much more specific detail.
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Posted 28 September 2006 - 06:02 AM

Adelle, I was diagnosed by hair analysis. If you get the book I mentioned before, there's a test in it you can take that will tell you based on your symptoms. The book also tells a lot about healing from it. You can search for adrenal fatigue, and adrenal burnout on the internet and learn a lot, but the book goes into much more specific detail.



Is there a website with this test ?
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Posted 28 September 2006 - 06:09 AM

This is where I had mine done: http://arltma.com/index.html I should add, my doc ordered the test, I don't know if you can go there directly. Insurance covered the doctor visit (she's an MD), but not the hair analysis.
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Posted 28 September 2006 - 06:11 AM

This is where I had mine done: http://arltma.com/index.html



was hopping for somthing free :D
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Posted 28 September 2006 - 06:35 AM

was hopping for somthing free :D

Oh, the test in the book!!! Umm, no, but you can go sit in Barnes and Noble or Borders and take it. :rolleyes:
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Posted 28 September 2006 - 06:39 AM

Thanks for posting this info, Carla.

I have an app't in November with an integrative medicine specialist in NYC. I am having serious health problems. I am going to add this to my list of things to ask about.

Appreciate the info :)
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Posted 28 September 2006 - 06:47 AM

Thanks for posting this info, Carla.

I have an app't in November with an integrative medicine specialist in NYC. I am having serious health problems. I am going to add this to my list of things to ask about.

Appreciate the info :)

I'm not familiar with integrative medicine. Are they open to more holistic ideas? Conventional medicine doesn't really consider adrenal fatigue, probably because the adrenals are not actually diseased. My health problems have been pretty serious, too, to the point that I sometimes would spend the whole day in bed. All my conventional tests would come out normal though, so I had to start looking for how to get healthy rather than what disease I had. This has helped me so much, I just can't help but pass on the information as I think that years of gluten intolerance causes a tired system in most of us.
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Posted 28 September 2006 - 07:19 AM

Carla,
Yes, they are certainly more open to all kinds of ideas! Thank goodness! He is an MD.

Here is his link...http://www.mdheal.org/

And this is a good description of who he is:
http://mdheal.org/whatis.htm

He is on the Defeat Autism Now (DAN) network of doctors also...meaning he understands food intolerances and their connection to more than just the intestinal system!

He also focuses on leaky gut, which is one of the mechanisms involved in Celiac:
http://mdheal.org/leakygut.htm

My first app't is a 1.5 hour consultation with him and his assistant. Finally, someone who will actually take the time to listen....

Laura
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Posted 28 September 2006 - 07:23 AM

That sounds great, Laura. My doc is also an MD who is into holistic medicine. She's also into healing the leaky gut and doing everything to support health. I bet your doc will be well-versed on adrenal fatigue and I bet it would come up anyway with him if it is a problem for you. Keep us posted on your visit!
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Posted 03 October 2006 - 01:34 AM

I have adrenal fatigue and mine was caused by having low Thyroid function and a normal TSH and no Dr ever ordering the right Thyroid tests for 30 years. I kept working and exhausted myself.

www.stopthethyroidmadness.com has a good test for adrenal function that you can do yourself.
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 07:05 AM

I was wondering if anyone else had adrenal fatigue syndrom before they found out that they had Celiac disease? What I've been reading is that one of the stressors that can lead to adrenal fatigue is gluten intolerance. I had adrenal fatigue syndrom for about 2 years, started feeling better then found out that I had celiac disease. Is it possible to have not known that I had celiac disease and got the adrenal thing from that? Because I also read that a lot people don't know that they have celiac disease until something major happens in their life (which is what happened with me)

So I'm kinda confussed, if anyone knows about this I would love some tips:-)



Stress is a big factor in causing adrenal fatigue. Your adrenals send out cortisol and other chemicals for the fight or flight thing that happens because your body senses danger. So your heart may begin to beat faster, your brain becomes more alert, your digestion shuts off, and so much more but to make this brief. When you have that happening day after day you deplete your adrenals. You'll find foods like donuts in the morning and caffeine lift you out of this fatigued state and that only makes things worse in the long run. Even exercising constantly can cause adrenal fatigue. They call them adrenaline junkies. Anything that causes the excitement it takes to get the adrenals producing.

Stress also causes digestive problems. That could include celiac. So I think stress is what caused both things to happen for you instead of celiac causing adrenal or vice versa.

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 07:10 PM

Really, there is no such thing as adrenal fatigue.

They work or they dont (which can be either right in the adrenals-Addison's Disease, which turns you orange, or in the pituitary, which makes you very pale. They both make you deathly bone tired, unable to get out of BED tired, weight flies off you, hyperallergic, hair falls out, and achey as all get out).

Of course, there is a wide range of normal, from 'yeah they're technically normal but barely' which may be one cause of CFS, to just barely sub-Cushings (which is the opposite of Addison's, except it lives in the pituitary and is usually caused by a tumor).

But sub-optimal functioning isn't caused by wearing them OUT. It can be natural, it can be an autoimmune process that either stops or doesn't (leading to addison's), it can be a pituitary glitch, et cetera.

If you have true adrenal failure, there isn't an herb or supplement out there that will give you back your life. You will be sent from specialist to specialist, thinking you found the answer with the rheumatologist or the toxicologist or the gastroenterologist or the naturopath or whoever. And you watch the weight continue to drop, and you get weaker and paler and more convinced that whatever you have, you are going to die.

Then you see an endocrinologist. And he takes one look at you, sees that your thyroid has been tested ad nauseum TYVM, and does an ACTH stim test. Your cortisol number pre-ACTH is 3 (normal for that time of day being above 15) and after is 12 (normal at that time being at least 25). The diagnosis: central adrenal failure. Not fatigue. FAILURE.

And you will have to take steroids for the rest of your life. In case of emergency you will need to carry a kit with intramuscular needles and injectable 'stress dose' steroids. Otherwise if you get mugged or in a car accident or vomit or anything YOU COULD DIE. Your blood pressure could crash through the floor, you have shaky hands and under a minute to get the needle in because of the impending crash, but you stab yourself or you DIE of adrenal crisis.

But the steroids give you back your life, so you deal with it. And you take the risks, even the ones that might require a needle. Because life is for living.

I understand wanting an answer for a myriad of symptoms. But chronic fatigue for no good reason (or undiagnosed nutritional deficiencies, or sleep issues, or the wrong phase of the moon) is FAR more likely than "mild" adrenal failure, seeing as failure means not-working. And, having lost a year of my life to adrenal failure, having almost died of adrenal crisis, and having gone from a healthy 143 pounds to 85 pounds in several months, I do not wish adrenal problems of any sort on ANYONE. Telling a doctor you have adrenal problems can get you the wrong treatment if they believe you(and crisis-dose steroids can make you psychotic if you don't need them, even if you're normally stable as a rock), or it can make life more difficult for the person who comes in with a genuine adrenal crisis 3 days later. I know that doctors are not fashionable here, but they ARE a fact of life, and when it comes to my hormones I trust my award winning endocrinologist over the herbologist down the street any day.

If you're suffering, look for another answer. If you cannot find one, and are convinced it is your adrenals, have them tested the conventional way. Then you can get the LIFE SAVING treatment before you crash and burn really really hard.

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