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What Vegetable Are Easy To Digest & Cause The Least D?


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#1 Anne AMP

 
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Posted 19 October 2006 - 04:09 PM

Have been eating beef, chicken, butternut squash, green beans, pear and plum. Thats it. They have all been cooked and the fruit has been cooked and peeled. I am going to cut out the green beans and the plums. Green beans can be hard to digest and plums are a laxative. I have chronic D every day and am loosing a pound a day - down to 97 pounds. All suggestions greatly appreciated. Thanks, Anne
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#2 lorka150

 
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Posted 19 October 2006 - 08:22 PM

i would nix the red meat. are you eating / drinking anything else? at all? i would also get your hands on some acidophilus, and try some softer, blander foods (think: brat diet). for awhile, i was only eating about six things (eight months or so) and it helped readjust my system.
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Posted 19 October 2006 - 10:07 PM

i would nix the red meat. are you eating / drinking anything else? at all? i would also get your hands on some acidophilus, and try some softer, blander foods (think: brat diet). for awhile, i was only eating about six things (eight months or so) and it helped readjust my system.

Thanks for your help. Red meat is harsh.
What were the six things you ate? You did this for eight months? Nothing else? - Anne
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Posted 19 October 2006 - 11:36 PM

The diet you describe has almost no carbs in it - you would lose weight even without the diarrhea. I am sorry you are dealing with diarrhea all the time - not fun!

Can you tolerate rice or potatoe, quinoa, banana - any of that? Can you tolerate a dairy product - like yogurt?
I agree with the suggestion for acidophyllus too - your gut flora is very upset right now - need to bring it back into balance
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 10:32 AM

like 2kids4me mentioned, that is why i said the BRAT diet - toast and rice are in that, and they are very easy to digest. i probably wouldn't recommend the quinoa, if you introduce it and have never had it, that might cause havoc.

for the small amount of things, for awhile it was just homemade gelatin, egg whites boiled, nuts (for some reason, although they are hard to digest, I was fine), a few steamed veggies, coffee (believe it or not, that was fine, too), and clementines, as well as nature's path unsweetened cornflakes and quinoa puffs/flakes. as time went on, a few more things were added here and there. the egg whites were for protein, however, i don't eat eggs (vegetarian) so it was really hard for me.

for what it's worth, i'm allergic to rice and buckwheat - so most things were out for me (like bland, steamed rice).
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 11:01 AM

Hi,

This is such a difficult thing to figure out. I have a lot of food intolerance issues, and can't eat many foods.

Right now, if I were you, I'd omit completely dairy, legumes, grains, even fruits except maybe banana. Definately stop the green beans (legume) and the other watery, sweet fruits.

Beef can be hard to digest--although I have no problem with it. If you do eat it, make sure it's lean for now. Also, chicken and turkey are good. If you can, try potatoes--cooked simply. Any veggies you do eat, make sure they're very well cooked--summer squashes and carrots are ones you might try.

Also, have you tried Immodium caplets? At this point, stopping the cycle of D is important. What are you drinking? Try and stick to spring water--on the off chance you are intolerant to coconut (like I am), any filtered water will continue to make you sick.

Think protein only in the form of lean meats for right now--stay clear of any of the plant proteins.

If you ever needd/want to, feel free to PM me--I hope you can get a handle on this soon. I'm worried about you :)
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 08:02 PM

another vote for ditch the beef, it is too hard to digest & you could be allergic...

no colas, no artificial sugar - unless diabetic, no canola oil, no grains, no legumes, no gluten-free manufactured stuff...

try some baked sweet potatoes, homemade jello, 100% grape juice - diluted, tuna fish if you can handle it, rice - if you have no problem with it, but it should be regular long grain rice that you cook yourself - not a mix etc., applesauce, baked pears,

soup out of boiled chicken, carrots and cabbage

Then branch out from there...
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 08:50 PM

16 months gluten-free and issues with 'd' again. know it's probably in introducing dairy too soon and a hersery bar that set it off ..but I've seen canola oil listed in several posts as not being a good thing..was wondering why.
any ideas? I nixed the hellmans mayo and used the canola mayo..love some input
thanks
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Posted 21 October 2006 - 05:40 AM

Try some kale. When I was so very sick and just beginning the gluten-free after diagnosis, I read somewhere that kale was healing for the intestines. I don't remember where I read it, and I thought that idea sounded absolutely absurd, but I couldn't even tolerate a baked potato and was willing to try almost anything once.

Amazingly kale (steamed until very tender or sauteed in a minute amt of olive oil) made my tummy feel better! It was also really good and comforting mixed in with Bob's Creamy Rice cereal (NOT the Bob's Mighty Tasty cereal....that hurt , too).

I was very sick before getting diagnosed, malabsorption to the tune of losing 5 lbs/wk for about 8 wks! Kale and Creamy Rice cereal worked for me.
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Posted 21 October 2006 - 06:02 AM

Try some kale. When I was so very sick and just beginning the gluten-free after diagnosis, I read somewhere that kale was healing for the intestines. I don't remember where I read it, and I thought that idea sounded absolutely absurd, but I couldn't even tolerate a baked potato and was willing to try almost anything once.

Amazingly kale (steamed until very tender or sauteed in a minute amt of olive oil) made my tummy feel better! It was also really good and comforting mixed in with Bob's Creamy Rice cereal (NOT the Bob's Mighty Tasty cereal....that hurt , too).

I was very sick before getting diagnosed, malabsorption to the tune of losing 5 lbs/wk for about 8 wks! Kale and Creamy Rice cereal worked for me.


Thanks for the info. Never have eatedn Kale, glad you told us how to cook it :lol:
Also it still amazes me with malabsorption..you lose 5 lbs a week and i gain 5 lbs.
how in the heck does that work. would love for someone more info wise than I to 'splain' it to me :lol:
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Posted 21 October 2006 - 06:31 AM

Thanks for the info. Never have eatedn Kale, glad you told us how to cook it :lol:
Also it still amazes me with malabsorption..you lose 5 lbs a week and i gain 5 lbs.
how in the heck does that work. would love for someone more info wise than I to 'splain' it to me :lol:
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Hi Judy,

I have had malabsorption for a year and a half (at least that's how long I've observed it; the test was a couple of weeks ago and in the "extremely severe" category.

But I haven't lost any weight. Now, that seems to be the first question every doctor asks me: "Have you lost weight?" and I feel as though I should be ashamed that I haven't! I haven't gained weight either, but I've been so nauseous I haven't been eating more than 1000 to 1200 calories a day, so not losing is awfully weird. I've been drinking lots of dairy-free vitamin shakes. My body has been the same weight + or - 5 pounds since I was 12. No matter what I eat or how much I work out, my body keeps it's favorite weight and shape. Even when i start to feel week and awful, I *look* healthy and robuts.

My theory is this: some of us have bodies that are more committed to a set point than others. Sone of us have bodies that are more apt to conserve body energy stores than others. These types of bodies will slow metabolism waaaaaay down before they are willing to start shedding weight.

I have noticed that my body temperature has gotten progressively lower. It has always been around 97.5 to 98; it's now getting closer to 96.0 or 96.5. Many doctors pooh-pooh that, but I think there's something to it. I also sleep much longer at night than I used to; I went from 7 hours a night two years ago, to 9 to 10 hours presently.

I also feel like my body won't be able to hold out forever. I'm actually really glad it hasn't shed too much weight, on some levels, because I'm hoping it means my body is retaining some strength, but I'm scared to see what happens when it can't hold out any more. It seems like half the doctors I see refuse to consider my case "emergent" until I appear in their offices looking like death. I say, shouldn't we all work together to keep me from getting to that point? Or should I allow my body to starve for years in order to better "plea my case" before the grand court of diagnosis? Sheesh.

Sorry for the rant.

Meanwhile, Anne. I'm only now starting to figure out what foods cause me problems and which don't. I've found that shellfish, cruciform veggies, and potatoes are problematic. Squash is great. carrots are great. Tomatoes are out. I can handle white rice and wild rice, but brown rice is tough. Soy makes me sick. Nuts make me sick. I really need the fruits; especially apples, bananas, grapes, and I can tolerate the stone fruits. I would say, since you need a source of glucose, you should keep whatever fruits you can take. Just experiment with them a little to make sure you tolerate them well.

I also found that my juicer has been a lifesaver. I mix up a bunch of fruits and juice them. Fortunately, my juicer results in a very pulpy juice, so some of the good fiber and stuff is retained, but all the skins are kept out (which are more likely to cause problems). I freeze the pulpy juice in ice cube trays and then make a dairy-free smoothy in the morning with a little apple juice. It's great. Blueberry, apple, grape, carrot and pear is my favorite combination. This works especially well for me, because the kind of malabsorption i have results in very large pieces of food being undigested. So blending and straining ahead of time seems to help my stomach and cut down on the digestion. I think that's why mushy veggies like sweet potato and squash have been good for me, while salads and greens have been hard. I think greens would be easier, because generally you cook the heck out of them, but they're goitrogenic and I feel like they slow me down (that could just be because I think they will, so they do, but whatever, I still avoid them).

I've also made the decision to cut out high-lectin foods and tree-nuts. I was skeptical about the lectins, but after doing some research, it makes total sense to me that some of them could cause problems. I will say this, though, lectins are as specific to their substrates as antibodies are to antigen, which is to say, very specific. So not all foods that are high-lectin are going to cause equal problems for humans; but the ones that are known allergens are best to avoid; soy, peanuts, potatoes, etc. For all the rest (about 30% of plant species) it requires experimentation to see which cause problems for you, and it seems like that's better to put off until your gut has healed somewhat.

Google the site for l-glutamine; lots of people have found relief from gut inflammation from that. I haven't gotten any yet, but it's only cause I've been too lazy to go to the store. My nutritionist actually told me the best possible supplements to take would be sublingual B, l-glutamine, and probiotics.

Anyhow, I hope you find some relief!
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Enterolab:

Fecal Antigliadin IgA 20 (Normal Range <10 Units)
Fecal Antitissue Transglutaminase IgA 9 Units (Normal Range <10 Units)
Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score 1223 Units (Normal Range <300 Units)
Fecal Anti-Soy IgA 18 Units (Normal Range <10 Units)

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 8,7)

Gastritis dx 10/24
Eosinophilia of large bowel dx 10/29

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Posted 21 October 2006 - 06:37 AM

Anne, when I'm having trouble with a D rut I find the safest things for me are white rice, organic unsweetened apple sauce, bananas, peanut butter, avocado, and rice cakes. I'd make every effort to keep your protein up, you can really feel lousy without it. Good luck!
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Diagnosed through Enterolab (9.27.06)
Antigliadin IgA 164 (Normal Range <10 Units)
Antitissue Transglutaminase IgA 75 Units (Normal Range <10 Units)
Quantitative Microscopic Fat Score 874 Units (Normal Range <300 Units)
Fecal anti-casein (cow’s milk) IgA antibody 73 Units (Normal Range <10 Units)
HLA-DQ 2,1 (Subtype 2,5)

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Posted 21 October 2006 - 06:52 AM

GOSH, ALL ....THANKS FOR SO MUCH SUPPORT AND INFO.
WILL DOWN LOAD IT AND SAW AND READ AFTER I DRINK THE 'UCKY' :ph34r: BUT HELPFUL :lol: POWER. ANY ONE GOT A GOOD WAY TO TAKE IT OTHER THAN H2O OR IS IT BEST WITH WATER..CHIRO SAID TAKE WITH WATER.
HUGS
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Posted 21 October 2006 - 07:17 AM

16 months gluten-free and issues with 'd' again. know it's probably in introducing dairy too soon and a hersery bar that set it off ..but I've seen canola oil listed in several posts as not being a good thing..was wondering why.
any ideas? I nixed the hellmans mayo and used the canola mayo..love some input
thanks
judy


Canola is made from rapeseed...which can be a problem. It has high levels of erucic acid than other oils, but canola itself was developed to have lower levels than regular ol' rapeseed oil. Rape is in the mustard family, so if you have any trouble with mustard or mustard greens, you may not respond well to canola oil.
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Enterolab:

Fecal Antigliadin IgA 20 (Normal Range <10 Units)
Fecal Antitissue Transglutaminase IgA 9 Units (Normal Range <10 Units)
Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score 1223 Units (Normal Range <300 Units)
Fecal Anti-Soy IgA 18 Units (Normal Range <10 Units)

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 8,7)

Gastritis dx 10/24
Eosinophilia of large bowel dx 10/29




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