Angry Boy!
#1
Posted 07 January 2007 - 10:53 AM
My husband has celiac disease and has been gluten-free for almost 5 years now. I have three boys ages 8, 5 and 1. My older two had a blood test 4 years ago and we were told they were not celiac. However, they do have occasional tummy troubles and joint pain but the biggest problem is behavior. Since my husband is gluten-free many of the things we eat are also gluten-free. When my boys have gluten they really seem to change. Could they really be affected by it? My 8 year old becomes very angry, mean and aggressive, my 5 year old starts crying over everything and loses control easily. I took them 100% off of gluten 2 weeks ago and they seem like totally different children! The house is actually peaceful! I homeschool them so I can REALLY see a difference! I am happy but also sad if gluten is really the cause. I just can't believe gluten could cause such behavior problems. Most everyone tells me if they don't have constant tummy trouble, gluten is not the cause. Does anyone else have children where gluten causes behavior issues.
Thanks,
Kelly
Mom of Alex 9 - Gluten free since 1/07
Ethan 6 - Gluten free since 1/07
Zac 1 has never had gluten
Wife to Mark - Gluten free since 2003
#2
Posted 07 January 2007 - 10:54 AM
Gluten free since May 2004
#3
Posted 07 January 2007 - 01:43 PM
My daughter gets very emotional and cries a LOT if she gets glutened. Sometimes the way I know she has been glutened is because she can't stop crying about everything and she starts having night terrors again. She will just start screaming in her sleep and nothing I can do will comfort her much at all. The next morning she won't remember at all. She only does this when she has gluten.
In fact all of my kids tend to be more emotional when they get glutened. I was always told I was an emotional child, always moody and crying. The littlest thing would set me off. I also had joint problems and tummy troubles from a very young age. I now have some irreversible damage since I did not know I needed to stop eating gluten untill I was 30!
If your husband is confirmed to have Celiac, then your children should have been tested at least once every 2 years, more often if they have symptoms. One test 4 years ago would not be enough to say they don't have it. A lot of people (especially children) test false negatives, there are too many things that can mess up the tests, from there not being enough damage to cause positive levels of antibodies (still damage, but not severe), to the lab not knowing how to run the test properly, or the doctor not understanding that the tests are not 100% accurate, I've even heard that certain levels of cortisone in the blood can alter test results, and if you went even a few days without gluten before the tests that can be enough to alter the results too.
I've also read that people with neurologial gluten-caused problems often have less intestinal distress and test negative on the blood/biopsy, because the gluten is attacking their brain more than their intestines. It sounds reasonable to me. I know my children, especially Ben, are completely different while gluten free than they were on a gluten filled diet.
Mariann, gluten intolerant and mother of 3 gluten intolerant children
#4
Posted 07 January 2007 - 03:26 PM
Started Specific Carbohydrate Diet on 8-16-09 because son was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis and want to give him moral support.
Diagnosed with Minimal Change Nephrotic Syndrome in 2003. Discovered that going completely gluten-free put me in remission.
I would have despaired unless I had believed that I would see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Psalms 27:13
#5
Posted 07 January 2007 - 08:37 PM
My other daughter does have stomach issues but she is more anxious and ADHD-like when she has eaten something. Her blood tests were negative but her Enterolab tests were positive.
It is sad that they can't eat almost anything the other kids are eating but they couldn't have been happy with the way they felt before, either. Our home life is much more peaceful now.
gluten free 4/06
casein free 7/06
DQ1, DQ8
Daughter (11) gluten free 5/06, casein free 6/06
Daughter (9) gluten free 3/06, casein free 7/06, soy free, trying peanut free
vegetarian
gluten lite on and off since 1999
All dx'ed by Enterolab
#6
Posted 08 January 2007 - 09:56 AM
Thanks again!
Kelly
Mom of Alex 9 - Gluten free since 1/07
Ethan 6 - Gluten free since 1/07
Zac 1 has never had gluten
Wife to Mark - Gluten free since 2003
#7
Posted 08 January 2007 - 10:06 AM
Good Luck!!
DX'd With Narcolepsy In 1995
Dx'ed With Celiac On 12-18-06
Positive Biopsy On 2-1-07
DX'd With Pernicious Anemia 4-24-07
Daughter Has DH, so I suspect she also has Celiac!!
"If Alcoholism was Celiac Disease they would make us drink ourselves into kidney failure before they would admit we had the disease"
#8
Posted 14 January 2007 - 09:30 AM
Vicki
gluten-free since 1995
#9
Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:55 PM
I would with out a doubt try the gluten-free diet for you 11 year old. It has made a world of difference in my boys even though ther bloodwork was neg.
Good Luck!
Kelly (Mommy of Alex 8, Ethan 6 and Zac 1)
Queen Serenity, on Jan 14 2007, 12:30 PM, said:
Vicki
gluten-free since 1995
Mom of Alex 9 - Gluten free since 1/07
Ethan 6 - Gluten free since 1/07
Zac 1 has never had gluten
Wife to Mark - Gluten free since 2003
#10
Posted 24 January 2007 - 10:31 PM
My younger daughter has some of the digestive problems, but really responds with hyperactivity. We tried to put some gluten back into her diet, wondering if she'd outgrown it, but she reacted with extreme hyperactivity. Imagine having a four-year-old who, literally, can't stop moving. After about a week, we pulled out all the gluten indefinately. Within a couple of days, she was focused and calm.
Neither girl has all of the screening markers for celiac. But when they've been tested, they had already been on a gluten-free diet, so the results are not valid. I'm not willing to put them through a gluten diet just to tell me to remove the gluten, since I know the removal works. My older daughter did have an endoscope put through her from stem to stern, and they did find damage in the lower intestine, but not the upper. That's why she has a different auto-immune diagnosis than celiac. I was told it will be a few years before a valid test can tell us exactly which auto-immune she has. In the meantime, she takes medication (Pentasa) and we control her diet. Otherwise, she doesn't gain height nor weight.
#11
Posted 25 January 2007 - 03:25 AM
Joe is 25 years old now and he was this child, My oldest son has behavior issues as his most prevalent symptom. He is normally a very sweet guy, but give him some gluten and he turns into a horrible, angry, moody little brat. Punching things, throwing things, beating up his brother, slamming doors, screaming "I HATE YOU", etc. Thank God we found out about gluten before his teenage years! It could have been a nightmare. This paragraph discribes Joe so well and the sad thing is, I didn't know anything about gluten when he was little, or believe me, he would be gluten free now. He too has ADD, he had so much trouble in school. I remember him as a very young child throwing himself on the floor and crying that nobody loves him. Picture him now as 6'3" and 300#, still slamming doors, punching things, and screaming foul things at people. He has been in jail 3 or 4 times for his temper, he has never hit anyone, but he scares them. His hands are huge, he wears a size 17 ring now and 2 years ago he nearly broke his hand slamming it into a wall in a fit of rage. His doctor now has him on Prozac, saying he may be bipolar. I know he isn't, in my heart, I know that gluten-free is probably his answer. He wants to be different, yet it's like he can't control this behavior.
Just last week I asked him to be tested for celiac disease and that is when he told me what his doctor said. I told him to find a new doctor! I honestly would love to have him come live with me here on Long Island, yet until he gets help for his temper, I can't handle him, I can't put myself in that emotional state again. Believe me, Joe is a very sweet guy, a big ole teddy bear. He loves kids and they love him. When he is in a good frame of mind, you could not ask for a nicer man. My kids are all softies like their mom. I wish gluten was not a factor in our lives, yet it is and it will be forever and ever and I truly believe that if he could go gluten-free, he would be a different man.
Long Island, NY
Double DQ1, subtype 6
We urge all doctors to take time to listen to your patients.. don't "isolate" symptoms but look at the whole spectrum. If a patient tells you s/he feels as if s/he's falling apart and "nothing seems to be working properly", chances are s/he's right!
"The calm river of your life approaches the rocky chute of the rapids - flow on through. You are the same water. The rocks cannot hurt you. Remember, now and then, that you are the water and not the boat. Flow on!
#12
Posted 26 January 2007 - 06:28 PM
#13
Posted 26 January 2007 - 08:51 PM
Tonight he said this new doctor told him he is suffering from what he feels is bronchitis and put him on yet another med. Then he mentioned to me that he was going to stop taking his prozac, which has helped a little. He also had gained a lot of weight since going on prozac, up to 340#. That is when I asked him to not just stop the prozac, that he should wean off if slowly and to request his doctor give him something different which may work better for him, to which he replied he has not taken the prozac for over a month. I asked if he would try gluten-free for at least 3 weeks and see if it makes a difference and he told me he has no idea how to do it. He thinks he now understands that he has to do this himself and learn to control his aggressive behavior--which is very easy to say when you are not angry and very easy yo forget when the aggression hits hard again.
I am so afraid he will end up in some huge mess with this aggressiveness. I live 800 miles away and always felt so helpless with him. Believe me, if I had known about celiac disease when he was a child, he would be gluten-free now and I am sure, a much happier guy. Yet, I also know, until he is ready to understand gluten-free may help, then I can't help.
I am so happy you were able to help your children.
Long Island, NY
Double DQ1, subtype 6
We urge all doctors to take time to listen to your patients.. don't "isolate" symptoms but look at the whole spectrum. If a patient tells you s/he feels as if s/he's falling apart and "nothing seems to be working properly", chances are s/he's right!
"The calm river of your life approaches the rocky chute of the rapids - flow on through. You are the same water. The rocks cannot hurt you. Remember, now and then, that you are the water and not the boat. Flow on!
#14
Posted 09 February 2007 - 08:40 AM
Kelgs, on Jan 7 2007, 01:53 PM, said:
My husband has celiac disease and has been gluten-free for almost 5 years now. I have three boys ages 8, 5 and 1. My older two had a blood test 4 years ago and we were told they were not celiac. However, they do have occasional tummy troubles and joint pain but the biggest problem is behavior. Since my husband is gluten-free many of the things we eat are also gluten-free. When my boys have gluten they really seem to change. Could they really be affected by it? My 8 year old becomes very angry, mean and aggressive, my 5 year old starts crying over everything and loses control easily. I took them 100% off of gluten 2 weeks ago and they seem like totally different children! The house is actually peaceful! I homeschool them so I can REALLY see a difference! I am happy but also sad if gluten is really the cause. I just can't believe gluten could cause such behavior problems. Most everyone tells me if they don't have constant tummy trouble, gluten is not the cause. Does anyone else have children where gluten causes behavior issues.
Thanks,
Kelly
Hi
i have two kids they both gluten free and i agre with you gluten has to do somenthing with angry behavior, my son acts diferent he gets sad when he eats gluten my dougther gets very angry over anything she is like on controlling then she become normal i talk to my doctor about it but he said girs are like that. I dont think so she is getting better now that we know that she is gluten free but she still has this bad, bad temper and get very anxious, when i see her getting like that i ask her what do you eat today.
only mothers knows and see we are so conecte too our kids i agree with. somen times it is so scary the way she gets.i think it has to do we the food \ my kids are 13 and 11 years old.
pardon my spelling.
Cllaudia
#15
Posted 13 February 2007 - 03:18 AM
I'd actually be interested in hearing if anyone else who either has Aspergers or has been thought to have it has had an almost complete disappearance of Asperger symptoms by going Gluten-Free?

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