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#16 Spirit of the Home

 
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Posted 20 August 2007 - 07:10 AM

So, without being able to really eliminate the stress, is there something I can do about the teeth grinding? I'd appreciate any help.


Hi Sinenox

I have learned a couple new tidbits of info from this thread. thanks for the question.
Just a couple extra bits of info. I went to a specialist for TMJ and for a year was fitted at diferent times as my teeth moved. but the greatest part was the physical thereapy where they used a Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulator. It relieved the pain so much that I said I wish I had one of these at home!!!!! That was all it took for them to give me one to take home. It was a very special tool for my pain relief. I used it on my jaw. It worked so well I decided to try it on my shoulders and back which hurt so bad at the time also.[ don,t know if that is recommended but it was great for me] After a couple years of gluten free and a lot of other changes I don't seem to need it.
Also the relaxing info I recieved in therapy was helpful as I was told to press my toungue tip up into the roof of my mouth and slack the jaw. this is helpful for me.
I don't know about the bruxism but the TMJ if memory serves me has to do with the padding in the jaw joint slipping. It causes a lot of pain. There is a surgury they can do but at the time I was being treated they said it could slip again. I decided not to have the surgury. I have not heard of anyone using natural thereapy and repaing it but if the info is out there I would be interested.

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Posted 20 August 2007 - 09:08 AM

My sister is a grinder and I am a clencher.

I got yelled at by my dentist to stop (I had no idea) I have cracks going up all my teeth.

I ended up @ Walgreen's they have those mouth guards for cheap

good luck
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 05:59 AM

I work at a dental office with a general dentist and a TMJ specialist(temporal mandibular joint) I see this everyday. THere are several different options and treatments. I wouldn't exactly blame Celiac for the grinding as there are so many people that do it with out being a Celiac. Most people are unaware of it until they see their dentist complaining of headaches or tooth pain. Stress is a major factor and learning to cope with stress helps tremendously. There is a device called an NTI which doesn't allow your teeth to touch at all and rests only on your front teeth so you don't have to worry about a full night guard. These help but after awhile can also cause an open bite so need to check with your DDS. Also there is the common splint, bruxguard, nightguard, etc. (same things) This, if worn as prescribed will keep your teeth from hitting and protect them from grinding off your enamel or from causing fracture lines in your teeth. It takes time and a commitment to wearing it every night but the consept also is that it trains your brain to lessen the grinding. Hence, after awhile some people say they have stopped grinding. Keep in mind though, most people are sleeping when they grind or clench so how would they know if they've stopped or just simply lessened thefrequency of the grinding. THe headaches come from your muscles tensing up. Some get swollen joints etc. and a muscle relaxer can be prescribed by a TMJ specialist or general dentist if he/she sees a need for it. Alot of people clench their teeth and are not aware of iut until it is brought to their attention. This can eventually cause the same kind of damage as grinding. Keep an eye out when you are stressed or driving or at work to see if you clench your teeth. Ibuprofen works well as it is an anti inflammatory that will help with musles. The best remedy along with a guard is to do simple exercises to help relax your muscles. One common one is if you have a headache or jaw pain, place two fingers vertically between your top and bottom teeth and keep them there for two minutes. THis will help to relax those muscles. If need be a cheap sports guard at any store can help act as a nightguard but consulting with your dentist will help greatly in the end to aleviate teh true cause of the grinding/clenching. Celiac Disease also has a side effect in your mouth....due to malnutrition from not getting the vitamins, minerals, and nutrients, you can have enamel deficiencies, weakened enamel, and some children w/ the disorder can have visible signs of enamel deform. from malnuroushment etc. during the tooth bud, growing phase. This can travel on to the adult teeth as well since when the baby teeth are in, the adult teeth are behind those (although you can't see them yet) beginning to grow. There are several things you can do to help this situation. ACT mouthrinse contains flouride and helps to strengthen the enamel, you should consult your DDS as far as getting more flouride help. There are also prescription strength toothpastes that contain flouride as well. Flouride overdoses can cause enamel problems as well so make sure you speak with your DDS. I think the best way to look at it this...you're body will now be healthier than anyone else you know due to your new Gluten-free diet. Your healthy and have a great new challenge of finding new and exciting recipes, and making up new ones. THe only thing that makes you different from the others is you won't have the fattening junk food with everyone else. You can still eat the same meat (mostly) and vegetables, etc. that everyone else does there there isn't to much of a difference. Pretty much your seasonings and sauces will change. I found my first week (3 weeks ago)very depressing as I couldn't find anything at the store. I told myself it wasn't much different other than breads and sauces but I new I would probably be prolonging my life by eating healthier. I cheated and went to McDonalds last week (my first cheat) and ordered a #2 with fries and a coke. I wanted one more fast food meal and then I was done. I took acouple bites and realized it didn't taste the same. My body adn taste buds and gotten used to my new diet and I was unable to enjoy the fast food. Now I won't have the cravings and can continue to be happy. Think of it as a gift, not a handicap. The gluten-free food world has grown by @ 26% the past year and will continue so finding the newest foods coming out is alot of fun. Don't stress over it. If you have common everyday stress like everyone else....your grinding is probably from that, and in that same way...you are no different than anyone else!
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Posted 01 October 2007 - 01:26 PM

I clench too, and the muscles in my head and neck are not pleased by it. Oddly enough, when I;m getting adjusted regularly by the Chiropracter, I don't do it. I have a chiro who does soft tissue adjustment as well, she'll actually stick her finger in my mouth and push on the joint, which hurts UNBELIEVABLY but makes me stop clenching!
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Posted 01 October 2007 - 02:45 PM

I grind my teeth so horribly! I got my dentist to make me a splint and I love the thing, it took a while to get use to I would wake up with it in my hand when I first got it but now I can't fall asleep with out it in. Ever since I started wearing it consitantly I stopped having a sore jaw that would pop and get locked in place. After I had braces I stopped clenching my teeth I don't know if it was the braces that made it uncomfertable to clench my teeth or the realignment of my teeth but they helped. Anyway good luck and you really do need to find a way to protect your teeth before you grind them down and damage them even more.
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 05:09 PM

I clench my teeth at night more than grinding, but it has the same effect. I bought a 20$ mouth guard at target it has worked good so far
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 10:32 PM

I have TMJ, or I should say Had, as its hardly anything anymore. which is a bad condition with the muscles and joints in the jaw caused by grinding or clenching your teeth to much. you can get Lock Jaw (TMJ). I have had it once, and it sucks. for 2 weeks my jaw was locked, no opening or closing, just stayed in the same position couln't even move it one millimeater. this is cause by constant clenching when you shouldn't be. and using a mouth gaurd didn't help any for me, as it didn't stop the muscle use. it just stoped me from hurting my teeth. but I still clenched really hard on to the mouthgaurd, so the jaw was still a problem.

I also had RLS round the same time, after taking Calcium/magnisum supplements, it got better, both TMJ and RLS, after learning about how people with celiac seem to suffer with this, I had to learn more as to why this was happening. most people with celiac seem to lose calcium/megnisum more then anything. and this really affects your muscle growth and regeneration. if it gets bad enough, you will get muscle pain. an maybe Dxed with Fibro or something.
with RLS you have a feeling/need to hit/rub your legs, but this is not an affective way of treating this. it only makes worse over the years. example; you used to get it for 20 mins, will soon turn in to several hours of jumpy legs, even pain.
its the same with the Jaw muscle, you have this feeling/need to clench/grind. again, this feels good, but will only make it worse. and it will turn into TMJ

after taking a calcium/megnisum supplement, the "need" for me went away completely. now because I hardly ever get it, I hardly ever takemy supplements anymore. when i do have an "attack" because I haven't kept up with my C/M supplement, I go into the cabnit and take 2 or 3, and then it goes away after about 10/20 mins, so I don't even need much anymore. I try to risist going to sleep during the time I'm digesting the pills, once digested, I can sleep with out RLS and clenching. my musscles are relaxed, and this supplement helps me with stress aswell.

believe it or not, but it is your jaw that is doing the clenching, not your teeth.
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 10:57 PM

THe headaches come from your muscles tensing up. Some get swollen joints etc. and a muscle relaxer can be prescribed by a TMJ specialist or general dentist if he/she sees a need for it. Alot of people clench their teeth and are not aware of iut until it is brought to their attention. This can eventually cause the same kind of damage as grinding. Keep an eye out when you are stressed or driving or at work to see if you clench your teeth. Ibuprofen works well as it is an anti inflammatory that will help with musles. The best remedy along with a guard is to do simple exercises to help relax your muscles. One common one is if you have a headache or jaw pain, place two fingers vertically between your top and bottom teeth and keep them there for two minutes. THis will help to relax those muscles. If need be a cheap sports guard at any store can help act as a nightguard but consulting with your dentist will help greatly in the end to aleviate teh true cause of the grinding/clenching. Celiac Disease also has a side effect in your mouth....due to malnutrition from not getting the vitamins, minerals, and nutrients,


I do agree with the reason for the headaches, but I personally think a muscle relaxer or any over the counter drugs should be advoided if possible, as you are only putting more toxins into the body which will affect your bodys ability to absorb nutrients. and your over all health. becasue they are NOT cruing it, but only treating the symptoms. which you said your self Celiac's are knowen to have this becasue of melnutrition (vitimins/minerals and nutrients) this is what the body needs to live a LONG healthy life, not drugs.

Calcium/megnisum helped for me, but there are MANY vitimins and minerals that can cause TMJ not only these 2.. these were just the 2 I was missing in my diet becasue of the Celiac damage. we all have different levels of damage, and we all eat different diets.

I also agree with exercises and ways of coaping with stress, but again, this may only treat the symptoms, and not fixed the underlining reason for it. if things are happening in your life, like to much work, or a loss of someone close, that could be the cause of stress, and that can be delt with. but if you have no reason to be stressed, most of the time malnutrition can be the cause of stress. (actual stress to the body)
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Posted 12 October 2007 - 10:10 AM

Unwanted muscle clenching can come from Magnesium deficiency! .... I take about 500 mg a day (you can take half that and see results though).



This is definitely worth a try. If you take the magnesium in the evening, it may even help you sleep!

But please be careful about the amount! Some people (including me) are very sensitive to magnesium -- and anyone has their limit. Taking too much will generally give you the runs after a few days. (Just what a celiac needs, huh?)

If that happens, stop taking it until the runs subside, then try a smaller amount. Alternatively, you can start off with a small amount (say, 100-200 mg/day). If that stops your jaw clenching / tooth grinding, fine. If not, increase the amount a little per week until either your jaw relaxes or you do get the runs.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 07:09 PM

for all of you TMJ sufferers out there, i just gotta say that i know the best doctor around! he has trained under the TMJ experts for the last 10 years, and focuses his practice specifically around TMJ disorders, and curing them. we have a massage therapist in the office, as well as a nutritionist. the doctor is so great, and he understands everything about the disorder. we get patients from both ends of the US!! it really is a complex problem, and there are so many factors involved in curing it. if you want to learn more about TMJ you can visit tmjtherapyutah.com or tmj.org both are really good sites! good luck to you all! there is hope! i've seen it, and i'm experiencing it!!!
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Posted 05 May 2014 - 07:45 AM

Read up on gluten sensitivity... on of the primary ways gluten affects people with the sensitivity is by triggering an auto-immune (against one's own tissues) reaction against nerves and brain... so, now ask yourself, if gluten can trigger your own immune system to attack YOUR OWN nerves and BRAIN tissues due to misidentification by the antibodies, between the proteins in your own brain tissues, and gluten proteins... would that be considered 'STRESS' in the BRAIN? An intangible attack on one's own brain tissues by one's own antibodies -- how's that NOT stress? The cross-reactivity that gluten sensitivity can be triggered by other things which contain no gluten as well. Google gluten cross-reactive foods. Coffee is one, dairy, eggs, soy, rice, corn. It's because the immune system doesn't check the entire protein. So it can misidentify other proteins as invaders as long as enough of the protein is similar. A gluten sensitive person's auto-immune reaction can be triggered by other proteins which are similar.

So, if something is attaching your brain/nerves/tissues, how does it NOT make sense that there could be some visceral intangible 'anguish' / stress that would cause one to be tense, and grind ones teeth?  Bruxism.


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Posted 05 May 2014 - 08:12 AM

Hi there. 

 

This thread is seven years old and it is very unlikely that the posters will see your reply.  You are welcome to start a new thread if you like.

 

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 08:23 AM

Hi there. 

 

This thread is seven years old and it is very unlikely that the posters will see your reply.  You are welcome to start a new thread if you like.

 

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but someone may find this the same way i did...  a top google search result when searching for "gluten sensitivity  bruxism".

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 08:26 AM

here's some - cross-reactivity is a myth  :)  meaning, there is no science to support this theory.  


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Posted 05 May 2014 - 10:24 AM

but someone may find this the same way i did...  a top google search result when searching for "gluten sensitivity  bruxism".

old knowledge mixes will with new knowledge when it come to clarifying understanding...

 

 

I did not say the information was worthless.  This is why the thread is still live.  I told you that you may not get responses from this thread and you may start a new one if you please.  There is an FAQ section that might interest you and help you navigate the site.

 

 

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