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Mental Confusion And Motor Probs From Glutening? in a fog and keep dropping things ever since glutening yesterday Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   angel42 

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 11:06 AM

Hi,
I always have a very strong intestinal reaction to glutening but I have started to notice that I am in a total haze after eating gluten. I have also noticed that I am having problems with my hands. I was glutened yesterday and in addition to having an awful stomach ache, I feel very foggy and I keep dropping things. It was very difficult trying to write a check this morning. Is this my imagination? Does this happen to people?
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Posted 26 February 2007 - 04:16 PM

View Postangel42, on Feb 26 2007, 11:06 AM, said:

Hi,
I always have a very strong intestinal reaction to glutening but I have started to notice that I am in a total haze after eating gluten. I have also noticed that I am having problems with my hands. I was glutened yesterday and in addition to having an awful stomach ache, I feel very foggy and I keep dropping things. It was very difficult trying to write a check this morning. Is this my imagination? Does this happen to people?



hI ANGEL 42 You are not alone. I get that way also. I have been gluten free since Aug. I have had a few glutenings and feel that way. I feel as if in a fog, at times anyway even dropping things. It gets better with time I hope. :rolleyes:
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Posted 26 February 2007 - 04:42 PM

Angel,
What you are describing is rather common among Celiacs who have been glutened. It is frustrating----but, you are definitely not alone. Many of us call it "brain fog"........its the only way to really describe it!

I hope it passes quickly.
Laura
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Posted 28 February 2007 - 08:25 PM

I call it my "gluten coma." So nope, its not just you! I dont get any intestinal symptoms, just the coma like feeling.
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Posted 28 February 2007 - 10:01 PM

View Postangel42, on Feb 26 2007, 12:06 PM, said:

I feel very foggy and I keep dropping things. It was very difficult trying to write a check this morning. Is this my imagination? Does this happen to people?


It's definately not your imagination.

My left side stops working when I get glutened; just the other day I accidentally dropped (and broke :( ) my cell phone because my hand just sort of disappeared. Maybe now I have an excuse to buy a iPhone? (haha, i wish.)

My mom read that taking vitamin B12 supplements might help with these neurological issues. I haven't tried it yet, so I don't know, but I doubt it can hurt, right?
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:09 PM

Ah. I have that to some degree as well. Didn't realize it was affecting me SO much until I went gluten-free. When I get glutened, usually unknowingly, the same things happen. Panic and itching and weird sweating and sort of a paranoid type of confusion (I always dart my eyes around as if searching for escape) followed by the mental brain fog. With this fog sometimes comes what you're talking about. I get kind of clumsy in addition to being lethargic, and I can't seem to string my sentences together. It's really weird - mixing up words and such. Lazy tongue that slurs.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:26 PM

I get Brain Fog and weakness 6-12 hours after getting glutened. I've only been on the diet a month so I've not had long term experience, but I think it's related to the body being short on what it needs. I seem to get much better after taking a multivitamin with minerals (gluten free) and/or getting some fluids and electrolytes in me if I'm feeling dehydrated.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:30 PM

Brain Fog is the worst part of a glutening. I use B12 to get me through the worst of it.
And no, you are not imagining it, and if anyone tells you so (especially doctors grrr) you have my permission to kick them in the shins and blame it on restless leg syndrome.

(I'm not bitter, I was just told I was "imagining things" or "exaggerating" for years by doctors.)
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 03:01 PM

I get these after being glutened, too. Yes, they are most certainly real!

I have GI symptoms for 2-3 days, and then the brain fog sets in and lasts for the better part of 2 weeks or so, sometimes longer. I get crabby, anxious, can't get whole sentences out, and have a hard time sometimes even getting words out of my mouth.

I sometimes find it hard to know exactly where to put my foot down when walking, and am definately clumsier and slower than normal.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 04:31 PM

View PostAnd She Will Be Curious, on Jun 28 2007, 03:09 PM, said:

Ah. I have that to some degree as well. Didn't realize it was affecting me SO much until I went gluten-free. When I get glutened, usually unknowingly, the same things happen. Panic and itching and weird sweating and sort of a paranoid type of confusion (I always dart my eyes around as if searching for escape) followed by the mental brain fog. With this fog sometimes comes what you're talking about. I get kind of clumsy in addition to being lethargic, and I can't seem to string my sentences together. It's really weird - mixing up words and such. Lazy tongue that slurs.



You sound *exactly* like me. In fact, I was investigated for MS (CT Scan) before my GI symptoms appeared and I began to suspect Celiac. It is truly amazing at the broad range of symptoms Celiac's can have. It was an eye opener to piece all of my symptoms together for sure. The neuro symptoms (dropping things, trouble walking, talking, etc). just appeared and got progressively worse, until I (thank God) starting get the diarrhea and weight loss. If I hadn't, I don't know if I would have figured it out to be tested in time.

Luckily, all of my symptoms did resolve once gluten-free. However, some people with Celiac present with neurological antibodies that *do not* seem to resolve on the gluten-free diet. The reason for this is not clear.


The good thing is, I now know what to look for in people who may present atypically with Celiac (adults especially). I honestly was sure I was developing MS based on my symptoms and was terrified.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 05:01 PM

Red Bull and orange juice help me some through the brain fog but you should see my hand writing during that time.

I tell people it's like getting stomach flu. I think that's the closest thing most people can relate it to.
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Posted 20 August 2007 - 09:48 AM

I get exactly the same symptoms, usually 6-8 hrs. after. I was also told these were symptoms of candida, which I have also been told I have. Anyone been diagnosed with candida as well as Celiac.
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Posted 20 August 2007 - 12:28 PM

Thanks for posting this. My speech has been so bad lately I was considering getting a nueropsych eval. It doesn't help that a new friend of mine keeps cutting me off mid sentence either. I'm already self conscious, but her cutting me off only makes me feel stupid. My family doesn't cut me off any more. It's funny /sad what your friends and family learn to accept as your norm.

I had forgotten that I used to drop things too. My hand would just let go on it's own.

Anyone's eyes get twitchy ?

About the candida, it's normal for undiagnosed celiacs to get candida. Just take some probiotics first to see if that alone can help, if not you'll need to treat it.

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Jan 1990 - Dx CFS/ME/FM (URI's, Ataxia, myoclonus, orthostatic hypotension, insomnia, brain fog, swollen lymph nodes, sore throat... ) Completely Disabled (housebound and bedridden at times)

2004 - Digestive pain all the time.

May 2004 - Hiatal hernia, erosive gastritis, gastroparesis (endoscopy)
August 2004 - Colon polyps, diverticulitus, internal hemorrhoids (colonoscopy)

No relief from Nexium, Prilosec, Protonix, Zelnorm, Miralax, Imodium, Lomotil ...
July 2005 - GP recommended WFDFSFEFCF + vegan (Also, anything that hurts free)
Immediately stopped needing naps and digestive pain reduced.

Sept 2005 - GFDFCFSFEF + chemical free - Immediately stopped feeling jittery / buzzing and digestive issues were much better.

June 2006 - Dx B12 and iron deficient. Started B12 injections and using cast iron pan.

August 2006 - MYOCLONUS GONE. (off Klonopin)
September 2006 - ATAXIA, INSOMNIA and Feeling like the floor was moving under my feet gone.

June 19, 2007 - Positive DQ2, Dx Celiac

October 2007 - Sleeping like a baby, waking up with energy, but still having fatigue/stamina issues

Nov 2007 - Started Paleo diet for chronic hypoglycemia

April 2008 - GTT normal. I'm no longer hypoglycemic. Started Low oxalate diet for kidney stones.

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Posted 20 August 2007 - 02:38 PM

View Postmarciab, on Aug 20 2007, 04:28 PM, said:

Anyone's eyes get twitchy ?

Marcia


My eyes get twitchy. I guess that's what to call it. When I try to read, my eyes seem to jump from word to word instead of go smoothly. I lose my place a lot. Sometimes my vision gets blurry in my right eye.
Joni


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Posted 21 August 2007 - 07:14 AM

View PostBellyfat, on Aug 20 2007, 06:38 PM, said:

My eyes get twitchy. I guess that's what to call it. When I try to read, my eyes seem to jump from word to word instead of go smoothly. I lose my place a lot. Sometimes my vision gets blurry in my right eye.



My eyes skip around over the words too. Makes reading a real pain.

I had strong noticeable twitches in each eye a few days ago when I first got glutenned, but now it's only something I can feel, but not see. They're gooey a lot right now too.

This all just gets sooo annoying !!! But, it sure beats not knowing why something is happening.

Marcia
Jan 1990 - Dx CFS/ME/FM (URI's, Ataxia, myoclonus, orthostatic hypotension, insomnia, brain fog, swollen lymph nodes, sore throat... ) Completely Disabled (housebound and bedridden at times)

2004 - Digestive pain all the time.

May 2004 - Hiatal hernia, erosive gastritis, gastroparesis (endoscopy)
August 2004 - Colon polyps, diverticulitus, internal hemorrhoids (colonoscopy)

No relief from Nexium, Prilosec, Protonix, Zelnorm, Miralax, Imodium, Lomotil ...
July 2005 - GP recommended WFDFSFEFCF + vegan (Also, anything that hurts free)
Immediately stopped needing naps and digestive pain reduced.

Sept 2005 - GFDFCFSFEF + chemical free - Immediately stopped feeling jittery / buzzing and digestive issues were much better.

June 2006 - Dx B12 and iron deficient. Started B12 injections and using cast iron pan.

August 2006 - MYOCLONUS GONE. (off Klonopin)
September 2006 - ATAXIA, INSOMNIA and Feeling like the floor was moving under my feet gone.

June 19, 2007 - Positive DQ2, Dx Celiac

October 2007 - Sleeping like a baby, waking up with energy, but still having fatigue/stamina issues

Nov 2007 - Started Paleo diet for chronic hypoglycemia

April 2008 - GTT normal. I'm no longer hypoglycemic. Started Low oxalate diet for kidney stones.

May 1, 2008 - Began salt loading for OI/NMH - noticed immediately muscle weakness was gone. I was sodium deficient but my labs don't reflect it. Still working on OI and PEM.
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