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Sorry to bring the subject up again about beta blockers but I do want to make a definite point. Everyone, especially us celiacs, should take a HUGE role, as much as humanly possible, in our health care. Many of you have learned, as I have, that we can not completely trust our doctors (they are only human, afterall) and that we SHOULD question their advice and do our own research and at times, yes, even refuse to take the medication they have prescribed (or just given to us for free as samples to try). I know now that I will NEVER take beta blockers because, as I stated earlier, I had already heard negative things about them years ago, and now from Barbara and you, Kevin. Just to ease your mind, Kevin, I will explain that I am already taking medication to lower my blood pressure (the reason I was given the beta blockers) but am experiencing a negative side affect so when I called my doctor she said she had some samples of a beta blocker if I wanted to try them. I did go by and pick them up but had that nagging negative feeling about trying them. Reading those posts did help in making my decision but WAS NOT the sole reason! We celiacs are a pretty experienced and savvy group just because of our variety of medical problems. I would NEVER jeopardize my health by suddenly stopping a medication based on info I read in a post, even by someone who sounds as intelligent as you, Kevin. A lot of good info is coming out of this thread and I hope it continues.

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red345:I have just read an interesting book from the library that may have some bearing on the research you are doing. It is called "Sugars That Heal, The New

healing Science of Glyconutrients" by Emil I. Mondoa, M.D. and Mindy Kitei. It is published in paperback by Ballantine Books. Copyright is 2001. The book listes 8 essential saccharides and the role of each in maintaining health. Chapter 9 is "Addressing Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, and Gulf War Syndrome." There is a comprehensive list of the sources he consulted for each chapter. Also there is a list of resources for the glyconutrients listed in the book. Phone numbers, addresses, and email addresses are included. The essential saccharides according to this book are: Mannose, Fucose, Galactose, Glucose, N-acetylglucosamine, N-acetylgalactosamine, N-acetylneuraminic Acid, Xylose. Food sources of each are listed. Part II: Strengthen Your Immune System, Intro., Common Cold and other Viruses; Treating Bacterial , Fungal, and Parasitic Infections; Alleviating Allergies, Asthma, and Other Pulmonary Diseases, Skin disorders; Arthritis, Diabetes, Other Chronic Illnesses, Inhibiting Cancer, Hepatitis, HIV and Opportunistic Infections, The last part deals with age-related subjects. The author does not put this information forward as a cure-all, but just as a possible approach to these problems. Perhaps you are already aware of this book. If so, ignore. Cheers, Ruth

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1) I am not really sure when I became gluten sensitive. But, I have had stomach problems for as long as I can remember. I was once diagnosed with depression. Although, that was in my early teenage years. I have Tourette's Syndrome. I have had persistent respiratory problems though. I got pneumonia at the age of 9. I had strep throat last year REALLY bad. I had bronchitis earlier this year (See #15).

2) I have dabbled in several vitamins, but suspected they made me sick (they are gluten-free though). I take Zyrtec every day. In the past I have taken Paxil, Luvox, Celexa, Ovcon, and Ortho Tricyclen Lo. Those were the only medications I ever took for a good amount of time. I have always used Ibuprofen to relieve menstrual cramps, but have recently suspected it may make me sick. I have taken several antibiotic series though. And.. anti-inflammatory steroids? Is that what they are? I took something when I had strep throat.. which didn't work and had to go in and get the shot in my bum. :) I was actually prescribed painkillers for this case of strep throat. I had prescriptions too when I had my wisdom teeth cut out 3 or 4 years ago.

3) I had a flu shot maybe a year ago. I know it was the first one I'd had in awhile. I also had both series of immunizations for Hepatitis A and B.

4) Well, I first went to my GI in August of last year. But, decided to hold off on his suggestions. I went back in April. During that period was my first year in college.

5) No

6) I usually find I have more severe symptoms during my period. In fact, I went to the gynecologist first to make sure everything was alright before I pursued anything with the GI.

7) No

8) Liver is A-Okay.

9) No

10) No. The test results really speak for themselves.

11) Probably so. I live in Oklahoma. There's wheat all over the place.

12) I've self-diagnosed myself as casein intolerant.

13) No

14) No

15) I'm pretty sure I was exposed to ammonia earlier this year. I was working with some old ammonia-coated drawings for my mom's work. I developed severe respiratory problems. I pretty much had bronchitis for several months. Needless to say, I quit working there. I used an inhaler from January through April. I was diagnosed in June.

16) No

17) No, but my mom has developed sudden autoimmune diseases. She developed a severe anaphalactic (sp?) reaction to NSAI and it almost killed her. It started with a reaction to Valium and ended up getting to the point where she couldn't take even Aleve. She also had antibodies attack her hair follicles. These things have all occurred within the last 4-5 years.

18) No

19) My gums do bleed sometimes when I brush my teeth.

20) No

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Red345: Have run into some more interesting information involving fibromyalgia patients. A Mark Sprague on www.ibsgroup.org ( if this doesn't work try groups) recommends a probiotic from a company called Lame Advertisement called Provex. His email is msprague200@yahoo.ca. He used this for high cholesterol , but it cured his ibs as well and in his letter he talks about fibromyalgia, also. Cheers! Ruth S.

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    • I think the posters above have given you very good information and I will throw in my 2 cents worth.  I am surprised that they did not test her DGP IgA also.  I am sure that would have been positive.  They switched off with antibody classes and usually they do both tests for both antibodies.  IgA is more specific to Celiac but the IgG is also useful.  The testing shows your daughter is producing antibodies to the gluten in her diet. (DGP IGG). THe tTg shows positive for some damage or inflammation. You know........your daughter is only 4.  She hasn't been on the planet or eating gluten that long. It can take years for enough damage to occur for it to be able to be found on biopsy.  I would say it is highly likely that this is Celiac, especially with her symptoms. But because the damage hasn't graduated to bad enough yet, they won't diagnose her. I think you need to do what others have said and get all copies of testing and find someone else who will take a look and give a diagnosis, especially if they have you do a dietary trial and her symptoms go away.  That might be the only recourse if you want faster proof. I know I would want faster.  I would not really be happy if I thought I had to keep feeding her something that was making her sick.  If you keep her on gluten long enough, the diarrhea will probably show up. BTW.........the criteria mentioned regarding diagnosis does not apply to kids.  I know it's silly and stupid but most leading Celiac specialists do not go by this criteria for kids.......adults only.  Keep that in mind because it might come up.  You could recognize it but they might not. Have you considered gene testing, to help bolster a diagnosis? As far as false positives go, it's the other way around. False negatives happen more frequently than many people think.  It's a recurring theme here.  With her symptoms, which is what I had, a bloated belly and tummy aches are telling.  Have they tested her for lactose intolerance?  That can cause similar symptoms, although it sure won't raise those 2 blood tests.  Keep looking for Celiac because there are many red flags here.
    • This 4 out of 5 criteria does not apply to children. I was never given a reason why, but it isn't.     That said, you may try to get a second opinion from another GI who may be willing to give her a firm dx.  We were in your boat 6 years ago and while I'm sure I'll get slammed for it, I wish we had kept gluten in our kiddos diet till he scoped positive for a variety of reasons.  Again, even family is different and you have to find what is best for you!
    • Mnoosh, I had swollen lymph nodes prior to celiac dx and for a while after going gluten free. My neck as well as groin. The groin ones were the worst. Guess what? All gone! It's hard to recall a time line & consider that everyone is different but I think mine completely resolved within a year.  You've been given great information. Just breathe and then again, breathe. You're going to be fine. 
    • It is the only thing you have eaten, so it can't be anything else?  I eat it with no issues so I am not sure how you can be certain that is the problem.  All I am saying is that its sort of "your word against mine and the company's word".  
    • Thanks cyclinglady & manasota! I appreciate it. I came to give an update...... I'm still 99% itch free. I get a "place" like a bug bite once in a while that itches and I just use the prescription steroid cream on it & that takes care of the itch. My rash is healing up rapidly everywhere. Almost clear skin now! Yaaaaayyyyyyyyyy! Now for a rundown of the "treatment". For 20 days I took a 100mg doxycycline twice a day. Then we upped it to two 100mg doxy twice per day. I took those for 5 days & made rapid progress and the itching stopped. The doxy was getting my tummy though. It was getting really rough despite my eating yogurt. So on day 6 and day 7, I took two 100mg doxy in the am but in the pm I just took 1 of them. On day 7, I was nauseous for hours on end. So since I was still doing well without itching and the rash was healing everywhere, I decided to cut back some more. On days 8, 9, & 10 I have only taken two 100mg doxy in the am and none at night. I'm doing good and my tummy is much, much happier! No more nausea!  I'll update as things go along.
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