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#1 User is offline   lorka150 

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Posted 09 April 2007 - 08:42 PM

I was having a discussion with someone and this came up. Would this be a concern? (Other than someone, say, rolling it and causing said contamination... I mean, from the source itself... The field/plants... Potential filler).
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Posted 10 April 2007 - 12:54 AM

I'd never really thought about it, but i did a google search and all i could find was this:

Gluten is a plant protein found in cereals, particularly in wheat. Wheat flour typically contains some 100,000 mg/kg, or parts per million (ppm) of gluten. Gluten is an allergen and affects people suffering from Celiac Sprue Disease. As for other oil seeds, the protein of hemp seeds does not contain this cereal protein - it is "gluten free". However, some consumers of hemp food have recently asked for confirmation because a note (see below) on the web site of the Celiac Sprue Association suggested that traces of gluten had been found in hemp flour.

Not that helpful, but hopefully someone out their will know more, i've just bought some and it will be the first time i've had it since going gluten-free so i'll see!!!!
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Posted 10 April 2007 - 04:17 AM

I don't think I would worry about this with the herb itself, however you do need to be concerned with the papers that are used to roll and also about cross contamination if others are say drinking beer while smoking with you. In a pipe without sharing should not be a concern.
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Posted 10 April 2007 - 04:49 AM

Since we're not suppossed to lick envelopes because the sticky adhesive contains gluten, I would also question the sticky adhesive on the rolling papers.

Not that I'd be advocating marijuana use, but God made marijuana and man made beer, who do you trust? B)
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Posted 10 April 2007 - 07:00 AM

Thanks for the thoughts. We were having a discussion and I just assumed that someone on here would know.
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 02:14 AM

Just find a previous post regarding this:

http://www.glutenfreeforum.com/index.php?s...=3333&st=15

It mentions that Rizla is gluten free which is a UK brand and Zig Zags aren't.
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 02:20 AM

Yes, God made marijuana and people made beer, yet God also made wheat--where do you draw the line?

In addition, I hardly think marijuana is a subject that should be discussed in an open forum with teenagers--it is an illegal substance. Don't bother throwing stones at me for my opinion--I just feel it's a subject that does not need to be discussed in this type of forum.
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:10 AM

I'd say that there are no simple answers...
What it comes down to is if you trust the source or not.... its not that different to buying ready made food...
I think its a bit naieve to trust manufacturers without doing further research ....
so it would depend where you are and what you buy ...

If your buying it legally in Amsterdam then its at least QC'd... if your buying from someone growing it themselves that you know or buying it from some-guy who knows a guy that can get hold of some stuff ...so a hard and fast rule can't be applied..


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In addition, I hardly think marijuana is a subject that should be discussed in an open forum with teenagers--it is an illegal substance. Don't bother throwing stones at me for my opinion--I just feel it's a subject that does not need to be discussed in this type of forum.


OK no stone throwing then but tobacco and alcohol are also illegal for teenagers and depending where you live so is dope... and can equally be prescribed again depending where you live. Indeed drinking alcohol is illegal in many countries .. and also some dry counties...
The same can be said for many of the meds we discuss.... quite a few of us have been or are taking meds which are classified as illegal without a prescription... but you could for instance buy over the counter in Mexico.

In general I think its better to mention the dangers than just not discuss it at all.

For instance the same goes for prescriptions meds you might buy in Mexico because they are cheaper... but they might also contain gluten because your getting a generic brand... even if its illegal to breing them back you could argue but what if I'm on vacation ... etc. etc.

I can respect why you say that but in a wider context I think its better discussed than brushed under the carpet....

One thing to really be aware of is many cigarettes contain gluten....

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:53 AM

View Postdarlindeb25, on Apr 11 2007, 02:20 AM, said:

Yes, God made marijuana and people made beer, yet God also made wheat--where do you draw the line?

In addition, I hardly think marijuana is a subject that should be discussed in an open forum with teenagers--it is an illegal substance. Don't bother throwing stones at me for my opinion--I just feel it's a subject that does not need to be discussed in this type of forum.


And you are free to think so.
I used to teach a Drug, Sex and Alcohol education and prevention program for a major youth organization and also taught it to middle and high school kids, until our government cut funding off unless it taught abstinance only. I could not condone that type of regulation so I left the position. Now just a few years after this our teen pregnacy and STD rate is the highest it has ever been. People need honest, unjudgemental answers to their questions no matter what their age.
You may not be aware that the recent reaserch is showing that most young people do not smoke pot, they take legal script drugs that abound in the medicine cabinets of their freinds or family, or have been pumped into them to keep them still and quiet in class. Open any magazine and you will find cover to cover ads telling people how this drug or that drug will make their life wonderful. Parents get to try and explain what erectile dysfunction is to their 5 year olds while they eat lunch after watching TV. People are taught to pop a pill to take care of any little thing from the time they are children.

An honest guestion needs an honest answer, folks don't see anything wrong with discussions on alcohol here, there is in fact a 3 pager right now on the top of the teen thread, there should not be problems with any other question either.
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Positive to Soy and Casien also Aug 2007

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 04:03 AM

OK no stone throwing then but tobacco and alcohol are also illegal for teenagers and depending where you live so is dope... Yes, tobacco and alcohol are illegal for teens, but marijuana is illegal for everyone, at least in America and in my opinion should only be used as a prescription for those terminally ill.

The same can be said for many of the meds we discuss.... quite a few of us have been or are taking meds which are classified as illegal without a prescription... Very true, except for the fact--the meds are prescription meds, not illegal.


I can respect why you say that but in a wider context I think its better discussed than brushed under the carpet....Thats the same as saying: Lets tell everyone how to break into a house, or how to hotwire a car, or how to shoplift------why discuss something that is against the law.

I won't argue this with you or anyone else, it's just my honest opinion and the only reason I responded is because I needed to validate how I feel.
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:45 AM

I wasn't trying to start an arguement, so instead of hijacking the post, can further discussion be involved via pm? (not with me, please, as my question was already answered).

there is a post in the 'teen' section involving alcohol, and i'm quite certain that most teens on this forum are american. that's just as illegal.

this was a general curiousity question. that's it. it was answered many posts ago. and thank you.
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:53 AM

Like someone already mentioned, be careful of the source.

A friend of ours' kid was given some "marijuana" to try. He brought it home, but changed his mind and brought it back to school to give it back. He got busted and expelled for the rest of the school year. The "marijuana" turned out to be POISON IVY! :o Be careful of the source, gluten is not the only concern.
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:53 AM

View Postdarlindeb25, on Apr 11 2007, 06:20 AM, said:

Yes, God made marijuana and people made beer, yet God also made wheat--where do you draw the line?

Thing is, it was man who hybridized the heck out of wheat, multiplying the gluten several times over. It is this type of alteration which bugs me. On the other hand, I once heard it would take something like 400 pounds of marijuana to be a lethal dose, assuming one could actually consume it all fast enough. I don't know if that's true, but when I hear of someone dying of a drug overdose, it's never marijuana. Though I don't condone the use of such things, I do think the ban on it, and the whole anti-marijuana thing is way out of proportion. You could have just one tiny seedling of it in your home, and get arrested. That's simply absurd if you ask me. Plenty of pharmaceuticals are far more dangerous, and those are being "advertised" (I say pushed) on TV every day. All those ads telling people to "ask your doctor about bla bla bla..." and "get a free sample of bla bla bla...". Kids watch TV too.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 07:02 AM

View Postdarlindeb25, on Apr 11 2007, 06:03 AM, said:

OK no stone throwing then but tobacco and alcohol are also illegal for teenagers and depending where you live so is dope... Yes, tobacco and alcohol are illegal for teens, but marijuana is illegal for everyone, at least in America and in my opinion should only be used as a prescription for those terminally ill.


The laws are quite different in Canada and the U.S. Medical use is allowed here, and is supplied and controlled through the federal government (though there has been some question to the potency and effectiveness of this medical grade drug.) There have also been changes to the possession laws.

This forum does host more than U.S. citizens, and I think the topic is worthwhile. For me, I'm interested in hearing about cc of hemp, especially in foods.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 01:39 PM

View PostMichi8, on Apr 11 2007, 11:02 AM, said:

For me, I'm interested in hearing about cc of hemp, especially in foods.

Hemp is supposed to be very good for you. It would be good to have info. on hemp cc issues.
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