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Naturopath/homeopath


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#16 miles2go

 
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Posted 18 November 2007 - 03:22 PM

No offence taken, Adrian, I just disagree on some points with you. Homeopathy has an effect on my radial tunnel syndrome that is not a placebo effect. When I take the remedy, my condition exacerbates for a few days and then calms down. I was on another course of homeopathic treatment before my current remedy and it did nothing towards healing, so the suggestion of a placebo effect didn't work there. My homeopath is an M.D. who has decided to go to homeopathy. My health insurance covers it, so there is at least some credence about it on this side of the pond. :)
Perhaps I did not stress the part about medical arts enough. What is good for cancer, heart conditions and other potentially fatal diseases might not be appropriate for homeopathy or naturopathy. Different treatments for different ailments are something that I consider appropriate. Many people are driven to the doctor for viruses that can't be cured by antibiotics, yet they are prescribed over and over. I really don't believe that any of the current medical practices, Eastern or Western have it down pat. What works for the individual involved is most important and not always what current media would have us believe.
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#17 Jake Eagle

 
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:36 PM

I've had great results from Homeopathy. The key for me was to find a "classical homeopath" who treats the entire picture, not just the presenting symptoms. I would say I'm 80% better when I am on my remedy. With classical homeopathy there is not one remedy for celiac, but there is one remedy for you...your exact picture. I hope you find a good homeopath.




I'm finally fed up with my ongoing symptoms (basically, the big "D") after nearly three years gluten-free. I've decided to see a naturopath who specializes in homeopathy. He seems wonderful, but it's expensive, as my insurance doesn't cover it.

Does anyone have any thoughts on naturopathy/homeopathy, positive or negative? My GI has ruled out things, and I'm just not feeling any better, so I'd really like to go the natural route.

Thanks!


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Posted 20 November 2007 - 08:44 PM

My naturopath has been enormously helpful. He helped me track down some additional food intolerance problems, helped my with my intestinal absorption problems, and put me on really good nutritional supplements to deal with adrenal fatigue, depression, and osteoporosis. He knows SO much about nutrition. So many of my health problems are nutritionally based--I had no idea, and assumed it was hypochondria, or aging. I thought once I went on a gluten-free diet I would be "cured", but years of intestinal damage, poor absorption, and leaky gut really wreaked havoc with my nutrition. Regular MDs do not know much about nutrition and a (good) naturopath does. I still see my regular MD for routine things like strep, but for most things I now see my naturopath.
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other food intolerances: citrus, sesame, potatoes, corn, coffee

fibromyalgia, osteoporosis

#19 Fiddle-Faddle

 
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 08:55 PM

Adrian, please keep in mind that many of the mainstream medical treatments don't have any better than a placebo effect, too.

In fact, many of them CAUSE more problems than they fix, because they usually mask symptoms rather than address causes, and in addition they have side effects.

Look at how many shelves of cold medicines there are at your local grocery store--and NONE of them cure the cold.

How many babies have been prescribed antibiotics for ear infections, 90% of which are viral? How many CHILDREN have been prescribed Ritalin? Yet EVERYBODY here with an ADD-diagnosed child reports HUGE improvements when gluten (and sometimes casein) was removed from the diet.

And you might do a search on this board about vaccines, which have been discussed on many different threads. Or just check out www.nvic.org.

I'm not saying that there is no value whatsoever in Western medicine, nor am I recommending homeopathic remedies. I AM saying that often, Western medical practices cause more harm than good, and most of us have BEEN there. :(
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 11:23 PM

Adrian, please keep in mind that many of the mainstream medical treatments don't have any better than a placebo effect, too.

I haven't read a single article from a reliable source that claims that correctly prescribed medication is no more effective than placebo.

In fact, many of them CAUSE more problems than they fix, because they usually mask symptoms rather than address causes, and in addition they have side effects.

Look at how many shelves of cold medicines there are at your local grocery store--and NONE of them cure the cold.

How many babies have been prescribed antibiotics for ear infections, 90% of which are viral? How many CHILDREN have been prescribed Ritalin? Yet EVERYBODY here with an ADD-diagnosed child reports HUGE improvements when gluten (and sometimes casein) was removed from the diet.

And you might do a search on this board about vaccines, which have been discussed on many different threads. Or just check out www.nvic.org.

I'm not saying that there is no value whatsoever in Western medicine, nor am I recommending homeopathic remedies. I AM saying that often, Western medical practices cause more harm than good, and most of us have BEEN there. :(


Lets face it, incompetence and mediocrity exist in every profession and I, my friends and my family have also experienced it from the medical profession on more than one occasion. But, and this is a big BUT, you cannot judge an entire science by its incompetent practitioners. Not only that, but it's quite irrelevant when judging the efficacy of homeopathic remedies; which have been proven time and again to be just smoke and mirrors.

Actually, I find it quite amusing that there is so much talk of incompetent doctors on these forums but when a homeopath also happens to be an MD then they are praised and held in high regard; seriously people, these are some of the most incompetent doctors you could possibly meet and it boggles my mind that they managed to pass their medical exams.

And yes, I know that there is heaps of anecdotal evidence that says homeopathy works but anecdotal evidence is not at all useful for determining efficacy due to all sorts of issues including confirmation and expectation biases.

As for the cold remedies; of course they don't cure the cold and none of them claim to but they can alleviate some of the symptoms which is a lot more than any homeopathic remedy can lay claim to.

Anyway, my initial post was not intended to start a flame war or even to convert the faithful as that's almost always impossible; it was however meant to raise a red flag of warning to those that haven't already been drawn in to the silliness; to those I say this, do not be fooled. Do some research first. Read the article that I originally posted, (here it is again http://www.badscienc...-kind-of-magic/) and read the links that are referenced within that or if that article is too cutting for you try the more objective sounding wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Homeopathy.

Now as Mr Gump once said, that's all I have to say about that.

Peace.
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#21 queensheba123

 
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Posted 21 November 2007 - 07:42 PM

I have had mixed results with a homeopath. It wasn't related to my current situation with trialing a gluten-free diet, but it did work supremely to get rid of my morning sickness when I was pregnant with my last child. It did not work on my infant son who has extreme food protein intolerances.

Now, as a newbie, I have to ask...what is the OMG forum/board?

Thanks!!

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#22 HilaBean

 
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Posted 27 November 2007 - 02:56 PM

the only way i got a diagnosis was from a naturopath. I had medical doctors saying that my symptoms were in my head, basically along the lines of "you're imagining your symptoms." Yeah, its expensive, but it seems like insurance doesnt cover very much as it is, so I think it's worth it in the long run.
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Posted 17 January 2008 - 06:11 PM

I have only wonderful things to say about holistic medicine - the number one reason is that they seem to understand that in order to treat a patient they have to listen to them! We've all been thru that with our doctors.

After finally getting someone to diagnose me I was told "Yes, you have celiac. Come back in 3 months." And left me on my own. No explanation, no direction as to what I was supposed to do - nothing. I called up my "voodoo" doctor in tears and he got me in that day. He put me on a regiment of supplements which helped me tremendously, he sat with me and explained what celiac is and what I should eat and what I should avoid and he did all of this without making me feel stupid! That was something NO ONE in the "normal" medical community has ever done for me. He also explained that I may also have other food allergies and to not be surprised if other foods will become eliminated from my diet. So far only lactose has had to be eliminated. The supplements have certainly helped.

I am also seeing a naprapath for my fibromylgia (diagnosed June 2007) and he is also very big on the listening skills! Again, he sat with me for about 1/2 hour and explained what FM is and what he does to help FM patients and what I could expect from his treatment. He is also familiar with celiac, as one of his office staff has it.

So I would say go for the holistic approach - they seem to have a more open mind than "western medicine" doctors and certainly more caring!

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 06:20 AM

I am new to this forum.. but I suggest you read Live Right for your Type and a new book just out The Genotype Diet. Both books are written by an ND who loves biochemistry.
The intestine is the most important organ in the body.
Your local library probably has them both.
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Posted 24 January 2008 - 06:22 AM

Welcome LovelyCherry!
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Posted 14 March 2008 - 03:05 AM

I have an ND and I love her!!

She also is a midwife (delivered 2 of my babies at home!)

She is very respectful and will prescribe meds/ antibiotics but will offer other alternatives. Ultimately it is my decision on which route I'd like to take. Fully supports Allergy testing. Both my boys are GI. Found out by Allergy testing. Oldest son had reaction by ears getting red and swollen. Younger son had DH and dark circles under eyes, thought the DH was from dairy. Thought my kids were pretty healthy ( she was seeing me not them) So i'm not upset how long it took to diagnose but i'm pretty sure if we had a regular dr that they would still be eating gluten and the other allergic foods.

She wants to get to the bottom of an illness, not just cover up symptoms and she humors me. My mom tries to self diagnose me and she actually talked with me about what my mom thought I had and factored that into the tests she ordered for me.
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Whole family is allergic to Gluten, eggs, dairy, most are allergic to garlic. Few other various allergies.


Did you know it's best to wait until 21 months to give a baby wheat??




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