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Hello all. I am new to posting but have been reading/registered to this blog for months now. I stumbled upon a great bread substitute & had to share it...

I had a small amount of Bob's Red Mill gluten-free pancake mix left over & decided to try & make the badder off the top of my head - it was not nearly as thick as it should be, but I was desperate for pancakes so I used it anyway. IT WAS SO GOOD!! I ended up with a bunch of large, thin pancakes that make a great bread substitute!

I had always put things other than maple syrup on my gluten-free pancakes but these are different, they're like crepes. I put pb&j on one & Tofutti better than cream cheese & berries on another and folded them like crepes - delicious!!

I don't know exact measurements as I was just adding away, but I highly recommend adding more milk/soymilk to make the badder thinner.

PS I replace the following items: soymilk for milk & applesauce for oil

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Hello all. I am new to posting but have been reading/registered to this blog for months now. I stumbled upon a great bread substitute & had to share it...

I had a small amount of Bob's Red Mill gluten-free pancake mix left over & decided to try & make the badder off the top of my head - it was not nearly as thick as it should be, but I was desperate for pancakes so I used it anyway. IT WAS SO GOOD!! I ended up with a bunch of large, thin pancakes that make a great bread substitute!

I had always put things other than maple syrup on my gluten-free pancakes but these are different, they're like crepes. I put pb&j on one & Tofutti better than cream cheese & berries on another and folded them like crepes - delicious!!

I don't know exact measurements as I was just adding away, but I highly recommend adding more milk/soymilk to make the badder thinner.

PS I replace the following items: soymilk for milk & applesauce for oil

I do the same thing with the "Crazving's Place" pancake mix! How funny, I thought I was the only one. LoL. I also thought I was the only one who substituted applesauce for oil in everything...is your diet oil free? Mine is, besides the one small capsule of EFAs that I can tolerate once a day.

I also noticed that your name has "veggie" in it...are you a vegan? I'm also a vegan...so basically I follow the McDougall diet (fat free and vegan), but gluten free.

I just thought I'd ask, because perhaps we could trade advice or recipes :)

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I do the same thing with the "Crazving's Place" pancake mix! How funny, I thought I was the only one. LoL. I also thought I was the only one who substituted applesauce for oil in everything...is your diet oil free? Mine is, besides the one small capsule of EFAs that I can tolerate once a day.

I also noticed that your name has "veggie" in it...are you a vegan? I'm also a vegan...so basically I follow the McDougall diet (fat free and vegan), but gluten free.

I just thought I'd ask, because perhaps we could trade advice or recipes :)

Hello!

My diet isn't oil free, although maybe it should be? I am still trying to figure out what I can tolerate and what I can't. I was vegan before I went gluten-free and now I don't eat any dairy or meat, but I do eat eggs since going gluten-free... I want to cut them out (and go back to being fully vegan) as soon as I get a grip on what I can eat & make a healthy diet out of what's left!

I looked up the McDougall Diet online, it sounds pretty similar to a regular gluten-free vegan diet & so I am interested in it, but it doesn't allow you to have soy products... how do you deal with that? What do you eat for protein?

Thanks!

Oh & I would love to have another gluten-free Vegan to talk with & get recipes from... although I should warn you, I'm not that creative in the kitchen, my "recipes" are very basic & quick lol :)

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Hello!

My diet isn't oil free, although maybe it should be? I am still trying to figure out what I can tolerate and what I can't. I was vegan before I went gluten-free and now I don't eat any dairy or meat, but I do eat eggs since going gluten-free... I want to cut them out (and go back to being fully vegan) as soon as I get a grip on what I can eat & make a healthy diet out of what's left!

I looked up the McDougall Diet online, it sounds pretty similar to a regular gluten-free vegan diet & so I am interested in it, but it doesn't allow you to have soy products... how do you deal with that? What do you eat for protein?

Thanks!

Oh & I would love to have another gluten-free Vegan to talk with & get recipes from... although I should warn you, I'm not that creative in the kitchen, my "recipes" are very basic & quick lol :)

Well, I don't know how good the McDougall diet is for you on a long-term basis, but I know that going oil-free for a while is supposedly very good for your heart. I take a capsule of oil everyday though and I seem to be tolerating that okay for now, just so I can get in my EFAs. I definitely know what you mean when you say that you're trying to get a grip on making a healthy diet out of what's left...it seems like I'm trying to create recipes out of the same few ingredients, over and over again!

I get my protein from beans. I eat 2 or 3 cups a day. All different types. Currently I'm scouring the web for gluten free, oil free, vegan bean recipes. It's a bit tough. Haha...

Glad we can relate :)

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Hi,

Add me to the list of McDougall-style vegans, plus I'm new to gluten-free. There's a good discussion board on Dr. McDougall's website (www.drmcdougall.com) that has a section for gluten-free. That board isn't as active as this one, but there are lots of helpful suggestions there for recipes, etc. Plus, the fact that there are other people out there who eat this way is encouraging--I know sometimes I feel like such a weirdo since I don't know anyone personally who eats the way I do. <_<

There's at least one other gluten-free McDougaller on both boards--I think her username on this board is hathor, and on the McDougall board it's DianeR. I think she is also soy intolerant, as am I, and since I think she's been eating this way for a while, she might be a good person to contact with questions.

If you're interested in learning more about this eating style, Dr. McDougall has lots of good books. There's also The China Study by T. Colin Campbell, Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease by Caldwell Esselstyn, and Eat to Live by Joel Fuhrman.

As far as protein goes, Dr. McDougall says that there's an unnecessary and unhealthy emphasis on "getting enough protein" in the US. He says there's a much greater danger of getting too much protein for most Americans, which taxes the kidneys. He says there is basically no such thing as protein deficiency, except in situations where starvation is occurring; that is, as long as you are eating a sufficient amount of calories, your protein needs will automatically be met, because the human need for protein isn't actually that high, plus plant foods contain plenty of protein. Beans are an obvious example, but lots of other foods that you wouldn't think of, like leafy green veggies, are high in protein, too. For example, 100 calories of broccoli has more protein than 100 calories of steak. So you can definitely get enough protein on a vegan diet, and even on a soy-free diet. (Although, just to clarify, Dr. McDougall isn't totally anti-soy. You just have to be aware that it's naturally high in fat, so don't go crazy with it, as a lot of vegans do. Also, you want to go for whole natural soy like edamame/tofu/tempeh, etc., rather than highly-processed soy like "isolated soy protein," etc., which may be detrimental for your health. But don't think that soy is "forbidden," unless, of course, you have an intolerance.)

Hope this helps clarify some questions. Hopefully some other McDougall-style, gluten-free vegans will reply as well, if there are any others out there! :)

Stephanie

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tell me more about this using applesauce instead of oil??? Why and do you use the same amount or less? Like it s recipes calls for 1/4 oil do you use 1/4 applesauce?

I only ask because I have a friend whose baby is highly allergic to corn and might be reacting to some other oils as well.

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