Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com!
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Cows Do Not Eat Wheat


BamBam

Recommended Posts

BamBam Community Regular

My uncle's cows got into a wheat field last year, ate wheat and they bloated up and some of them died. I asked my husband why that would happen, and his response is wheat is not fed to many farm animals, it is too hot for their digestive systems, meaning if they eat too much of it, it heats up their insides and can die.

A cow weighs anywhere from 500-1500 pounds. If an animal that big cannot digest wheat properly, then no wonder our small bodies can have problems with it.

This is kinda a weird topic, but I found it interesting.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Teacher1958 Apprentice
My uncle's cows got into a wheat field last year, ate wheat and they bloated up and some of them died. I asked my husband why that would happen, and his response is wheat is not fed to many farm animals, it is too hot for their digestive systems, meaning if they eat too much of it, it heats up their insides and can die.

A cow weighs anywhere from 500-1500 pounds. If an animal that big cannot digest wheat properly, then no wonder our small bodies can have problems with it.

This is kinda a weird topic, but I found it interesting.

That is very interesting. There have been a couple of times before I knew what was wrong with me that I had bloating that was almost scary. I don't even remember what I had eaten, but I was on some type of antibiotic, which may have made it worse. My abdomen swelled and swelled with gas over the course of an evening, and it was terribly painful. The only thing that helped it was when I got in our bathtub that has jets and turned the jets up to 'high' and just let them pound my abdomen. I was ready to go to the hospital. Anyhow, I can certainly see why those poor cows don't eat wheat.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest Doll

Actually, cows DO eat wheat and barley. I think this is an urban myth. :) Perhaps they died from spoiled crops, pesticides, or dehydration?

P.S. The reason cows are on antibiotics is because they are often kept in filthy and confined spaces, and milking cows get sore and infected teats from constant milking. Believe me, if most people knew what went on in a slaughterhouse/ranch/dairy farm, they'd never eat meat or drink milk again. And yes, if you feed them too much of *any* grain (unatural to them) they *may* die. Just like humans will die if they eat too much of anything too. :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
darlindeb25 Collaborator

My dad was the best feed man in our area, he mixed the feeds himself. He had his own recipes and yes, cattle feed does contain wheat, oats, barley--all those things we can't have anymore, including a few others. Maybe the cattle were sick because it was a green crop still, that is possible, anything is possible.

Now I realize I probably made myself sick many times just by being around our critters. We had chickens, rabbits, pygmy goats--lots of feed, hay, straw--all those allergens in the air, all that gluten to breathe in!!!!! Good thing I loved those critters!!!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Nancym Enthusiast

Cows aren't really designed to eat any grain, it is too acidic for them. However, cows are strictly grain fed. It makes them fatten up fast (does that to humans too). To counteract all the terrible things that happen to grain fed cow's rumen (stomachs) they give them loads of antibiotics to keep them alive. This highly acidic environment in their rumen has lead to the evolution of a new type of E. Coli bacteria that is able to endure the high acid environment of a normally ph neutral cow stomach (and the human intestinal tract). And that's the form of E. Coli that is causing problems for us now.

Here's a link to a NY times article about that:

Open Original Shared Link

Oops, wrong article, this one is even better (they're both good actually)

Open Original Shared Link

Also yes, if you feed a cow a lot of wheat, they will die. However they're usually fed wheat mixed with other stuff.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
cruelshoes Enthusiast
his response is wheat is not fed to many farm animals, it is too hot for their digestive systems, meaning if they eat too much of it, it heats up their insides and can die.

We raise chickens. They love cracked corn, be we have to be careful not to give them too much because it is a "hot" food for them. Hot meaning that it raises their metabolism and increases their body heat. They can overheat if given too much, especially in the summer. Perhaps this is the same effect that your Uncle was talking about.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
blueeyedmanda Community Regular

Very interesting I have never heard this. thanks for sharing.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



2kids4me Contributor

Cows are ruminants, they ferment the food. It doesnt "heat up their insides" , they pig out, they bloat and can die.

Yes, if they over eat any grain - wheat or barley - it is "hot" (high energy) and creates rumen acidosis - commonly known as grain overload.

Feedlots feed a lot of grain and on the verge of acidosis all the time the way they are fed . They are fed this way to fatten them for slaughter.

In nature they consume grasses and legumes. Any food fed in excess will cause issues. If we ate fruit all the time - we'd get diarrhea. If we ate excess protein - we'd get constipated. We are the only animal who consumes milk after being weaned.

We were never meant to consume so much gluten - and processed food. The best foods that are naturally gluten free are the food that our ancestors ate. Potatoes, rice, corn, fruits in season, berries and nuts, meats (but not processed)............

Sandy

Link to comment
Share on other sites
darlindeb25 Collaborator
We were never meant to consume so much gluten - and processed food. The best foods that are naturally gluten free are the food that our ancestors ate. Potatoes, rice, corn, fruits in season, berries and nuts, meats (but not processed)............

I think the problem with our gluten is a problem with science. Back when the indians learned how to make flour from corn and wheat, it was a different type of wheat then what we have now. "Enriched" is not such a good word when it is followed by the word "grain". I would be in trouble if all I could eat is the list of naturally gluten free foods above--I can't have potatoes, rice, corn, most nuts, some berries, and many meats.

It's true about we being the only animal that drinks milk after being weaned. My mom always used to say--milk is for baby calves, corn is for fattening hogs! I guess she is right huh!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      121,088
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Aventine
    Newest Member
    Aventine
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      120.3k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Posterboy
      Nacina, Knitty Kitty has given you good advice. But I would say/add find a Fat Soluble B-1 like Benfotiamine for best results.  The kind found in most Multivitamins have a very low absorption rate. This article shows how taking a Fat Soluble B-1 can effectively help absorption by 6x to7x times. https://www.naturalmedicinejournal.com/journal/thiamine-deficiency-and-diabetic-polyneuropathy quoting from the article.... "The group ingesting benfotiamine had maximum plasma thiamine levels that were 6.7 times higher than the group ingesting thiamine mononitrate.32" Also, frequency is much more important than amount when it comes to B-Vitamin. These are best taken with meals because they provide the fat for better absorption. You will know your B-Vitamin is working properly when your urine becomes bright yellow all the time. This may take two or three months to achieve this.......maybe even longer depending on how low he/you are. The Yellow color is from excess Riboflavin bypassing the Kidneys....... Don't stop them until when 2x a day with meals they start producing a bright yellow urine with in 2 or 3 hours after the ingesting the B-Complex...... You will be able to see the color of your urine change as the hours go by and bounce back up after you take them in the evening. When this happens quickly......you are now bypassing all the Riboflavin that is in the supplement. The body won't absorb more than it needs! This can be taken as a "proxy" for your other B-Vitamin levels (if taken a B-Complex) ...... at least at a quick and dirty level......this will only be so for the B-1 Thiamine levels if you are taking the Fat Soluble forms with the Magnesium as Knitty Kitty mentioned. Magnesium is a Co-Factor is a Co-factor for both Thiamine and Vitamin D and your sons levels won't improve unless he also takes Magnesium with his Thiamine and B-Complex. You will notice his energy levels really pick up.  His sleeping will improve and his muscle cramps will get better from the Magnesium! Here is nice blog post that can help you Thiamine and it's many benefits. I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice God speed on your son's continued journey I used to be him. There is hope! 2 Tim 2:7 “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things” this included. Posterboy by the grace of God,  
    • trents
      I'll answer your second question first. The single best antibody test for monitoring celiac blood antibody levels is the tTG-IGA and it is very cost effective. For this reason, it is the most popular and often the only test ordered by physicians when checking for celiac disease. There are some people who actually do have celiac disease who will score negatives on this test anyway because of anomalies in their immune system but your wife is not one of them. So for her, the tTG-IGA should be sufficient. It is highly sensitive and highly specific for celiac disease. If your wife gets serious about eating gluten free and stays on a gluten free diet for the duration, she should experience healing in her villous lining, normalization in her antibody numbers and avoid reaching a celiac health crisis tipping point. I am attaching an article that will provide guidance for getting serious about gluten free living. It really is an advantage if all wheat products are taken out of the house and other household members adopt gluten free eating in order to avoid cross contamination and mistakes.  
    • Anmol
      Thanks this is helpful. Couple of follow -ups- that critical point till it stays silent is age dependent or dependent on continuing to eat gluten. In other words if she is on gluten-free diet can she stay on silent celiac disease forever?    what are the most cost effective yet efficient test to track the inflammation/antibodies and see if gluten-free is working . 
    • trents
      Welcome to the community forum, @Anmol! There are a number of blood antibody tests that can be administered when diagnosing celiac disease and it is normal that not all of them will be positive. Three out of four that were run for you were positive. It looks pretty conclusive that you have celiac disease. Many physicians will only run the tTG-IGA test so I applaud your doctor for being so thorough. Note, the Immunoglobulin A is not a test for celiac disease per se but a measure of total IGA antibody levels in your blood. If this number is low it can cause false negatives in the individual IGA-based celiac antibody tests. There are many celiacs who are asymptomatic when consuming gluten, at least until damage to the villous lining of the small bowel progresses to a certain critical point. I was one of them. We call them "silent" celiacs".  Unfortunately, being asymptomatic does not equate to no damage being done to the villous lining of the small bowel. No, the fact that your wife is asymptomatic should not be viewed as a license to not practice strict gluten free eating. She is damaging her health by doing so and the continuing high antibody test scores are proof of that. The antibodies are produced by inflammation in the small bowel lining and over time this inflammation destroys the villous lining. Continuing to disregard this will catch up to her. While it may be true that a little gluten does less harm to the villous lining than a lot, why would you even want to tolerate any harm at all to it? Being a "silent" celiac is both a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing in the sense of being able to endure some cross contamination in social settings without embarrassing repercussions. It's a curse in that it slows down the learning curve of avoiding foods where gluten is not an obvious ingredient, yet still may be doing damage to the villous lining of the small bowel. GliadinX is helpful to many celiacs in avoiding illness from cross contamination when eating out but it is not effective when consuming larger amounts of gluten. It was never intended for that purpose. Eating out is the number one sabotager of gluten free eating. You have no control of how food is prepared and handled in restaurant kitchens.  
    • knitty kitty
      Forgot one... https://www.hormonesmatter.com/eosinophilic-esophagitis-sugar-thiamine-sensitive/
×
×
  • Create New...