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Oxalates And Olive Oil


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#1 newlyfree

 
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Posted 02 August 2007 - 10:44 AM

Hey all - somewhat off-topic, but my sister has just had her 3rd kidney stone in as many years, and her docs have recommended a low-oxalate diet... I got her list of the high/low oxalate foods in advance of her upcoming visit (and was surprised to see all of my food intolerances (soy, spinach, celery, carrots and wheat) on the high-oxalate list! But I digress...)

I'm wondering - I usually cook with olive oil but olives are on the high-oxalate list. Anyone know if the oxalates make it into the oil, or if they're just contained in the flesh of the olives? She likes to have my homemade pesto on rice pasta when she visits, and I don't want to make her sick.
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Posted 03 August 2007 - 05:50 PM

The Branwen site is usually a great low-oxalate resource, but doesn't list olives specifically, just that vegetable oils are low-oxalate.

BTW, the vulvar pain foundation has a low-oxalate cookbook (at this website) that she might find helpful. (The low-oxalate diet is also sometimes used for women with vulvodynia.)
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Posted 03 August 2007 - 06:25 PM

So glad I found this thread.
Several of us are finding the in addition to gluten-free, df, soy free...and on and on... that the limiting of high oxalate foods help the fibro symptoms.
I hope others pop in on this thread.
good luck..i use olive oil so gald to watch this info come in.
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Posted 04 August 2007 - 12:36 PM

Good to know about the cookbook!

I've ordered so many cookbooks since I started gluten-free (and some quite regrettably) - I'm a little wary of them. Anyone out there use this book? Have you liked the recipes?

Thanks!
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 03:00 PM

bumping in case anyone has an answer... :)
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 04:24 PM

sorry, I've been a bit busy with a hike-a-thon.
I found the cookbook to be... eh. but I'm a person who prefers to cook my own things from scratch anyway, and it's not the most convenient. it's helpful for someone who *needs* to rely on a cookbook, and eats more 'standard american food' fair, but it wasn't fab for me.
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 04:30 PM

Tiffany, if you have the cook book, did it say anything about using or not using the olive oil?
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 05:18 PM

Tiffany, if you have the cook book, did it say anything about using or not using the olive oil?
judy


It does indeed use olive oil.
Another option would be avocado oil, though that is expensive. ;)
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 06:13 PM

thanks Tiffany,, guess that answers NEWLYFREE's question..glad it's ok as it's what I only use now.
so appreciate it.
have you been doing the non oxalate diet?
love that site you mentioned. I think it's the best one out there.
I've been having some issues with UI and my pt was discussing this diet with me.
love to pm you about it
ok?
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 07:34 PM

I tried the low-oxalate diet for a little while for vulvar vestibulitis. It didn't help the pain, and I *HATED* the diet. Let me rephrase,

I really farkin' HATED it!.

Ahem.

No garbanzo beans, almonds, chocolate, spinach, sweet potatoes, popcorn, cinnamon, ginger, blackberries, strawberries, raspberries, mint tea, green tea, or soy sauce? YARGH! And oh, so they say I can have ice cream and cheese and yogurt? But I can't. So blah! In comparison, gluten free and dairy free and soy very-light is a snap, really.

If it had helped, I would have learned to live with it, of course, but eliminating dozens of foods is harder than five, especially when so many of my favorites (even including the ones I already can't have) are on that list. It is doable, and it's helpful if you can have dairy if you want to be able to eat out as well.

PM away! It was a while ago I did it, however. ;)
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 07:44 PM

I I really farkin' HATED it!.

Ahem.

I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR............ME TOO

MAN ALL MY FOODS THAT I LIKED THAT WERE LEFT...POTATOES, TOMATOS, GREEN PEPPERS,----&---OF COURSE ALL THE FRIGGING FOODS ON YOUR LIST.
WILL PM TOMORROW AS I'M TO PO'd to write tonight :lol:

No garbanzo beans, almonds, chocolate, spinach, sweet potatoes, popcorn, cinnamon, ginger, blackberries, strawberries, raspberries, mint tea, green tea, or soy sauce? YARGH! And oh, so they say I can have ice cream and cheese and yogurt? But I can't. So blah! In comparison, gluten free and dairy free and soy very-light is a snap, really.

If it had helped, I would have learned to live with it, of course, but eliminating dozens of foods is harder than five, especially when so many of my favorites (even including the ones I already can't have) are on that list. It is doable, and it's helpful if you can have dairy if you want to be able to eat out as well.

PM away! It was a while ago I did it, however. ;)


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Posted 08 August 2007 - 09:41 AM

Thanks for checking the book - glad to know we're good to go on the olive oil, and after that review I won't have to waste $45 on the cookbook :)

Sorry to hear it didn't help you, either. It's awful to have to avoid so many foods and still not feel better :(
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 11:31 AM

Sorry to hear it didn't help you, either. It's awful to have to avoid so many foods and still not feel better :(


Newlyfree...
so you have celiac and no other intolerances?
you sister is on the low oxalate diet for kidney stones?
Tiffany-- you were on for other reasons and it did not help you?
Do any of you have Fibro?

I have a friend who is celiac, and she's gluten-free, soy, legumes, tapaico, dairy casein and a few more things i can't remember and has been experimenting with the no high oxalate foods.
The pain in her feet of --- walking on glass and her morning 'shuffle' has disapeared with this diet.

I have been trying to do it and man it is so hard but i did notice that the fibro pain was better.
imput anyone?
Judy
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 12:38 PM

Newlyfree...
so you have celiac and no other intolerances?
you sister is on the low oxalate diet for kidney stones?


I do have problems soy, celery and spinach and a few other things, so I avoid them. I'm pretty sure I have 'leaky gut' problems from 10 years of undiagnosed celiac, so I'm trying to avoid all grains (except brown rice), heavy starches and sugars while I heal. Only been doing this for 4 months, and the first two months I was really making mistakes so probably 2 months gluten-free ;D

My sister decided to try a dietary solution for her kidney stones after my gluten-free diet helped me so much.

I don't have fibro, so can't speak to that at all, sorry :(
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 12:58 PM

I don't have fibro, so can't speak to that at all, sorry :(


NOT TO WORRY SO GLAD YOU DO NOT.
I'm trying to keep this thread up there for my friend to find too
maybe some others with fibro will stumble in here.
good luck
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