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Posted 02 September 2007 - 10:15 AM

When we hay....I wear a mask...it's really dusty and get everywhere when we're cutting and baling and then putting it up!
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 03:38 AM

I thought most horse owners fed alfalfa hay (?)

Wheat usually yields straw for bedding as it is combined for the "heads" ( or grain) and never baled with heads on.......

Hay can hecome moldy leading to "heaves" in horses (like asthma).
Is the hay moldy? If so - the mold will cause issues for people too.

Maybe this is getting picky - but hay - as a rule - is from grass crops / legumes and fed a source of nutrients.
Oats are commonly fed as well.
Straw however often comes from grain crops such as barley and wheat.


Its definately wheat hay. Where we live its too dry to grow alfalfa and legume hays. We can ship it in from across the country but its costs HEAPS. I am rereading this topic as I think I really have a problem with this now. When I started the thread it was winter and I was wearing more clothes to go into the barn. Now its summer here, I wear shorts and am wading through ankle deep straw / dust in sandals ... I always wash my hands immediately after - but not my legs or change clothes ....... I have a shed of 300 bales of hay !!! What can I do to clean it out ?????
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 05:48 AM

My horse gets fed grass hay... which is good because I pretty much cover myself in it four times a day :lol: .
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 06:34 AM

In October I was telling the Biblical story of Joseph to a group of young children. I bought a bundle of what was probably wheat at Ralphs for $1 to show them what a sheaf looks like. Ralphs was selling it as a Halloween decoration, so the timing was perfect for me!

I tried really hard to be careful, but I guess not hard enough because I had all my classic symptoms the next day.

I think I will look harder for a picture before I tell that story again.

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 12:24 PM

My horse gets fed grass hay... which is good because I pretty much cover myself in it four times a day

Where I live we don't have grass or grass hay ...... The choice is wheat, barley, oats or lucerne if you buy it from across the country ..... :(

At the moment the wheat hay I am using is very powdery as the mice have eaten bits of it. ...Lots of straw on the ground that I walk through 2x a day ..... :( When I throw the hay over the fence a huge cloud of wheat dust flies everywhere :( Lately I have been tired and constipated .... omg...what am I going to do ? If that dust cloud is significiently bad - then my clothes , hair, skin are all being exposed to gluten!
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 05:51 PM

I am so grateful for these old posts.

As my boys are writhing in bed, and fighting fevers with a tag team of Tylenol and Children's Motrin - I'm left trying to figure out how they got glutened. I was trying to determine, what was new? What did we do differently. Well, I think I've confirmed it now. They decided to "renovate" the dog's house. There was hay in it. The boys (unbeknownst to me) were renovating the INSIDE - with shovels! Where do they come up with stuff?! They both are now vowing never to go INSIDE the dog's house again. And I'm kicking myself for not thinking of hay as being a risk factor. The fever, muscle and bone aches, and the loss of appetite may last a couple of days. Oh, and the whining. The price of childhood curiosity when you react to gluten. Poor kids. Didn't we just go through this a few weeks ago? It doesn't get any easier, does it?
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:00 PM

Well, I'm glad you bumped this old thread.

I always had a difficult time on hayrides, with fall decorations, even the little bit of hay in a Christmas scene. I'm not seeing a connection.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:26 AM

I am confused by this thread - are celiacs not supposed to be around hay? I thought hay was a grass. I know it is only Spring, but are we suggesting that celiacs not got to fall festivals/hayrides/pumpkin patches/etc. Please tell me this isn't true.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:45 AM

I am confused by this thread - are celiacs not supposed to be around hay? I thought hay was a grass. I know it is only Spring, but are we suggesting that celiacs not got to fall festivals/hayrides/pumpkin patches/etc. Please tell me this isn't true.

Most hay rides and Fall decorations use bales of straw. It's much cheaper than hay, which is a valuable feed for animals. The straw can be from oats or wheat.

My hubby got a bale of straw to spread out in the yard where the dogs had made a nice batch of mud, which they were tracking in. As he spread it he noticed grain heads mixed in. He glutened our yard! :o He quickly raked it up and covered the area with wood chips.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 06:21 AM

I am confused by this thread - are celiacs not supposed to be around hay? I thought hay was a grass. I know it is only Spring, but are we suggesting that celiacs not got to fall festivals/hayrides/pumpkin patches/etc. Please tell me this isn't true.



I do not think you need to stop your Fall festivities.

Hay is mowed grass, alfalfa, clover and sometimes herbs and legumes. Yes, sometimes wheat or oat may be included in fodder for cattle.

The difference between hay bales and straw bales derives from what they are made of. Hay bales are comprised primarily of grasses. These grasses still have grain or seeds attached.

Straw bales are comprised of only the stalks of plants, such as grain plants; as a rule the stalks do not have seeds or grains attached, although some seeds or grains may remain due to the inability of machinery to remove them all.

Go on your hayride, but don't eat the hay.... no grazing! :D

If I am wrong, come back in October and yell at me.

Of course, if you are ALLERGIC to any of these plants or grasses, that is a different story.

I am going to quote from a previous thread:

"Neither timothy nor alfalfa are sources of gluten. They are grasses, not grains. Contamination is a possibility. It is also entirely possible to be allergic to either of these plants"
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 06:34 AM

I do not think you need to stop your Fall festivities.

Hay is mowed grass, alfalfa, clover and sometimes herbs and legumes. Yes, sometimes wheat or oat may be included in fodder for cattle.

The difference between hay bales and straw bales derives from what they are made of. Hay bales are comprised primarily of grasses. These grasses still have grain or seeds attached.

Straw bales are comprised of only the stalks of plants, such as grain plants; as a rule the stalks do not have seeds or grains attached, although some seeds or grains may remain due to the inability of machinery to remove them all.

Go on your hayride, but don't eat the hay.... no grazing! :D

If I am wrong, come back in October and yell at me.

Of course, if you are ALLERGIC to any of these plants or grasses, that is a different story.

I am going to quote from a previous thread:

"Neither timothy nor alfalfa are sources of gluten. They are grasses, not grains. Contamination is a possibility. It is also entirely possible to be allergic to either of these plants"


Treat wheat straw the same way you'd treat a decorative piece of wheat from a craft store.

I've hauled too much hay, handled too much straw, fed too much alfalfa in my life...and I can tell you the process of harvesting and baling is less than exact.

There will be wheat grain and dust in wheat straw, some more than others. Wheat straw is the "leftovers". It can contain anything (even rats and snakes - all baled stuff can contain rats and snakes :)).
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 07:13 AM

Just curious how many of you have actually gone on a hay ride? :P

I use straw in my chicken pen all the time. There's some seeds, and a lot of dust. I'm also allergic to wheat so I would have a bad reaction.....if I had a reaction, which I don't.

I have sat in straw bales, or had to handle it excessively with my hands, and in an enclosed area I do have an allergic reaction (can't breathe, welts on skin where it touched me), but in the open air I'm fine. I would chose not to go on a "hay" ride because of the constant contact with my skin, but unless it were excessively dusty, I wouldn't worry about any other reaction.

I also wouldn't worry about a decorative piece of wheat from a store. If you would, then yes, by all means, avoid the straw.
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