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#1 User is offline   scotty 

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Posted 18 August 2007 - 05:38 AM

i was glutened by Tyson chicken breasts. anyone else have these. chicken broth on the ingredients...but thats it. had to be. diet is strict enough to pinpoint that; what concerns me is the pan i used. is it wasted now. should i not reuse???
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Posted 18 August 2007 - 06:10 AM

The pan and other cooking utensils should be impervious to food contaminants. As long as you wash the pan thoroughly, it should be fine.

I find that the pre-marinated (including pre-cooked), packaged, meats are deadly. You are much better off to buy fresh, uncooked, un-marinated meats and marinate them yourself (using gluten-free ingredients).

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Posted 18 August 2007 - 07:43 AM

Are you talking about raw Tyson brand chicken breasts, uncooked and unseasoned? If so, they are gluten free. Grains in fresh meats have to be identified on the label in the US.
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Posted 18 August 2007 - 08:21 AM

yeah these were Tyson chicken breasts, 3 in a package. the only ingredients were chicken and chicken broth. bought them at krogers in the meat aisle. i guess i don't understand packaged meat. i mean it comes into a package sometime. but these were plain as can be. if it was not the chicken then i am just baffled on what it could have been. all that i am eating is meats and vegetables...? Dial, Suave, Crest, Right Guard, Palmolive dish soap should all be ok right...i have been in a bad spell, made necessary changes and felt a slight turn after a couple days. i ate all 3 breasts for dinner and breakfast along with veggies and eggs respectively; and had D the next afternoon. now red belly and red spot irritations...? should i try a meat market. it seems evrything has something added in the meat aisle meats' labels...ho boy
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Posted 18 August 2007 - 08:41 AM

View Postscotty, on Aug 18 2007, 08:21 AM, said:

yeah these were Tyson chicken breasts, 3 in a package. the only ingredients were chicken and chicken broth. bought them at krogers in the meat aisle. i guess i don't understand packaged meat. i mean it comes into a package sometime. but these were plain as can be. if it was not the chicken then i am just baffled on what it could have been. all that i am eating is meats and vegetables...? Dial, Suave, Crest, Right Guard, Palmolive dish soap should all be ok right...i have been in a bad spell, made necessary changes and felt a slight turn after a couple days. i ate all 3 breasts for dinner and breakfast along with veggies and eggs respectively; and had D the next afternoon. now red belly and red spot irritations...? should i try a meat market. it seems evrything has something added in the meat aisle meats' labels...ho boy


You need to call Tyson and check on the ingredients in the broth. Many times the broth is flavored with something that is not safe. Barley once it is turned into malt then becomes a 'seasoning or flavoring agent and they can feel free to use it in the broth. I always buy the meats that have no broth added, usually they are organic and cost a bit more but the broth is risky and your paying for the 'water weight' anyway so it evens out.
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Posted 19 August 2007 - 12:16 PM

View Postscotty, on Aug 18 2007, 12:21 PM, said:

yeah these were Tyson chicken breasts, 3 in a package. the only ingredients were chicken and chicken broth. bought them at krogers in the meat aisle. i guess i don't understand packaged meat. i mean it comes into a package sometime. but these were plain as can be. if it was not the chicken then i am just baffled on what it could have been.


Scotty,

Were these pre-cooked Tyson chicken breasts, or raw? Again, I think the pre-cooked, pre-packaged meats in the meat aisle are problemmatic -- at least that's been my experience. If they were raw, and you cooked them, I'd be real surprised if they were the source of your problem. But it sure does sound like something got you!!

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Posted 20 August 2007 - 03:56 PM

Not all chicken broth is gluten-free..... I would not buy anything that had broth listed on it unless it stated the broth mfg... I usually only buy raw with no added anything to be safer........another thing to watch out for is when it states glazed flash frozen..... that sends a red flag out for me!!!


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Posted 20 August 2007 - 08:03 PM

View Postmamaw, on Aug 20 2007, 07:56 PM, said:

Not all chicken broth is gluten-free..... I would not buy anything that had broth listed on it unless it stated the broth mfg... I usually only buy raw with no added anything to be safer........another thing to watch out for is when it states glazed flash frozen..... that sends a red flag out for me!!!
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Oh, dear--I use the glazed flash frozen chicken breasts from Costco. It never occurred to me that they might not be safe, as neither wheat nor obviously gluteny ingredients are listed, and I don't have obvious reactions to small amounts of gluten. :(
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Posted 21 August 2007 - 06:50 AM

Folks, folks, folks, Angie is right. If anything in raw meats, glazed flash frozen or not, comes from any kind of grain it MUST by USDA law be listed. Even if it's a malt made from grain (although I've never actually heard of malt in any of these). Every single plain poultry, fish, pork, and beef I've ever checked out has been gluten-free. Just read the ingredients.

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Posted 21 August 2007 - 08:09 AM

View Postlovegrov, on Aug 21 2007, 06:50 AM, said:

Folks, folks, folks, Angie is right. If anything in raw meats, glazed flash frozen or not, comes from any kind of grain it MUST by USDA law be listed. Even if it's a malt made from grain (although I've never actually heard of malt in any of these). Every single plain poultry, fish, pork, and beef I've ever checked out has been gluten-free. Just read the ingredients.

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The key here is the word I have made bold. If it has a broth or flavoring or has been processed at all you do need to check. The risk is not the grain added to the meat, (this law came about to keep folks from paying meat prices for cereals), the risk is the seasoning or natural flavoring added in the processing.
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Posted 21 August 2007 - 11:15 AM

The USDA told me when I called them that the "flavoring" or "broth" also would have to list any grain. I was told to simply read the ingredients. I have also called numerous companies and gotten numerous lists over the years (Perdue, Tyson, Silver Platter, Butterball, etc) and have never found a plain raw meat -- "flavoring" (when I say flavoring I'm not talking about say, teriyaki or lemon pepper or BBQ flavored, but rather the clear solution) or "broth" or not -- that has gluten. Every major brand of turkey, chicken, and pork I've ever heard of or checked has been gluten-free. Somebody once said they did find a Walmart beef cut with wheat clearly listed, but I haven't seen that myself. I've never found plain fish or shellfish with gluten added.

Have you found poultry, pork, seafood, or beef like I've described that definitely had gluten?
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Posted 21 August 2007 - 11:51 AM

I have no idea why, but Tyson chicken breasts have always made me feel sick. My daughter also said she felt sick after eating them so we no longer buy them. There's a butcher down the street from us where they sell it fresh so we buy some there and that's been fine. Also, my parents have a farm so we raise some there and have them butchered and we have a huge freezer we keep our meat in. I grew up on a farm and have never done well with meat from the grocery, but I have no idea really why that is.

I've tried both the flash frozen and fresh Tyson from the store and had trouble with both so we just don't buy it anymore. Not saying it's a gluten issue, it just bothers us for some reason.
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Posted 21 August 2007 - 12:13 PM

View Postholiday16, on Aug 21 2007, 12:51 PM, said:

I grew up on a farm and have never done well with meat from the grocery, but I have no idea really why that is.


It's because meat raised on a farm is really different than meat raised in CAFOs (I'm sure you know that, but I just felt like blatantly pointing it out B) ). The reason why you feel bad from Tyson and other store-bought meat probably has nothing to do with gluten.
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Posted 21 August 2007 - 01:24 PM

View PostMango04, on Aug 21 2007, 03:13 PM, said:

It's because meat raised on a farm is really different than meat raised in CAFOs (I'm sure you know that, but I just felt like blatantly pointing it out B) ). The reason why you feel bad from Tyson and other store-bought meat probably has nothing to do with gluten.


Very true, LOL. Everything about the meat is so different. When we lived in VA my parents would bring us some frozen meat when they visited. The only thing I could use from the store was hamburger meat and that not very often. I guess I wonder what is the exact reason it's so different that it would actually make you sick if you're not used to it? Is it the lack of motion, overuse of hormones or what? I talked with a lady a couple weeks ago and she said she became a vegetarian when she came to this country because the meat would make her sick as well. She was from the Ukraine.
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Posted 21 August 2007 - 05:55 PM

I've been buying the Tyson cooked chicken legs. Oddly there is no broth in those but there are natural flavorings. Daughter hasn't gotten sick from them, but she has a gluten and wheat allergy and not celiac. She is very sensitive to gluten though.
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