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#1 ~alex~

 
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Posted 21 October 2007 - 05:31 PM

I saw a gynecologist last week and it was a very upsetting experience and I can't stop thinking about it.

He was looking at my chart and reading how I have type I diabetes and Celiac and he asked me If I wanted to have my tubes tied. <_< I'm 24!! When I told him I was planning on having children, he said "Well you don't want to pass your diseases on to your kids do you?"

I keep trying to think that he was just an idiot but I can't stop worrying about what he said. Neither of my parents had Celiac or diabetes and I ended up with both and I'd much rather be alive with both conditions than to not exist at all. Diabetes and Celiac aren't the worst things in the world. Of course I wouldn't want my kids to have either but I would cross that bridge when I had to.

I keep trying to tell myself all of these things but I can't stop fixating on the fact that maybe he could be right. I just don't know what to think. :(
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Posted 21 October 2007 - 05:36 PM

WHAT A JERK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You need to make the decision to have kids on your own WITHOUT having a Dr weigh in!!! Both of these diseases are treatable and not life threatening if you take care of yourself!!!!!!

You are not in the wrong to want childern and your childern may not end up with either disease!!!!

What kind of Dr would say something like that JEEEZ!
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Posted 21 October 2007 - 05:47 PM

Autoimmune diseases require a trigger. As the previous poster mentioned your children may not end up with either of these diseases.

I wouldnt say that Dr. is wrong because the possibility is there....however this should not deter you from having children. I dont think he should have made these comments to you.

I have alot of problems myself...including autoimmune thyroid disease. I've had these discussions with my Dr.'s and *none* of them came at me with such negativity...in fact they were very positive about the whole thing. :)

Yes...I'm aware that my conditions can be passed onto my children. Yes, I'm doing whatever I can to address my health issues and to reduce the chances.

Nothing is guaranteed but for this Dr. to suggest that you not have children is completely wrong in my opinion.
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Posted 21 October 2007 - 06:16 PM

The decision to have kids belongs to you and your husband; you're the ones who will care for the child and raise her, not the doctor.

I think this doctor is way, way, way out of line.

For one thing, there are a couple kinds of genetic testing that you and your husband could do that will give you more information about the probability of having a child with or without your conditions. Just because you're diabetic doesn't mean your child will be. Look up "genetic testing" in Wikipedia.

Second, if the requirement for giving birth is that the child is perfect, with no genetic weaknesses or illnesses that can crop up, there's a statistically good chance that that doctor's mother should have had her tubes tied...using your doctor's logic. Diabetes is quite a serious illness, but so also are heart disease, strokes, tumors, various intestinal concerns, failing eyesight, Parkinsons, and age-onset problems like Alzheimers. Etc., etc., etc.

Waaay out of line.

Consider that you may have learned something about his attitude toward you, too.
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Posted 21 October 2007 - 06:55 PM

I do NOT think that he was right. I think that he was waaaaaaay out of line suggesting something like that. If every one of us that has a genetic difference had our tubes tied, I'm guessing our species would die out. He can't know that you will pass these diseases on - there is, after all, another gene donor involved! Many people *with* celiac genes don't go on to develop celiac disease, right? I can't believe that he would so blithely ask you something like that! I'm feeling outraged on your behalf.

On another note, I never knew that I had these genes to pass on....and now I have two kids who must be gluten free for the rest of their lives. Knowing everything I know, I'd still do everything the same way. Would that bozo doctor have suggested that I should not have reproduced? Arrgh.

I think you need a new Dr.

Please don't let what he said get to you!

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Posted 21 October 2007 - 06:59 PM

Alex, That is such an upsetting remark from your doctor. I know it is so frustrating. I now have an ex gynocologist myself, but for a different reason. To make a long story short, I have MRKH (no uterus). I was having problems which ended up being DH. I went in for itching and he said poison ivy. He made the remark to me that I'll never have another patient like you. I was so hurt. He did send me to a specialist, but never even followed up to see how I was doing. Wendy
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Posted 21 October 2007 - 09:14 PM

Before you fire him, you might communicate to him that it would be better to pass your diseases on to your children than to have one turn out like him. :ph34r:
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Posted 22 October 2007 - 12:25 AM

Considering that about 30% of the population has one or two genes for celiac, I guess he's thinking of tube tying on a truly massive scale... <_< :P :D :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 04:44 AM

Run as fast and far away from this man. None of us is without defect. Don't give him any more of your memory space!
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Posted 22 October 2007 - 06:44 AM

I saw a gynecologist last week and it was a very upsetting experience and I can't stop thinking about it.

He was looking at my chart and reading how I have type I diabetes and Celiac and he asked me If I wanted to have my tubes tied. <_< I'm 24!! When I told him I was planning on having children, he said "Well you don't want to pass your diseases on to your kids do you?"

I keep trying to think that he was just an idiot but I can't stop worrying about what he said. Neither of my parents had Celiac or diabetes and I ended up with both and I'd much rather be alive with both conditions than to not exist at all. Diabetes and Celiac aren't the worst things in the world. Of course I wouldn't want my kids to have either but I would cross that bridge when I had to.

I keep trying to tell myself all of these things but I can't stop fixating on the fact that maybe he could be right. I just don't know what to think. :(


OH MY GOOD GOD !!!!!
I simply cannot believe that an educated person would say that! <_<
He sounds like a mini Hitler (wanting a 'master race') :o

I'm sure it makes not one jot of difference to your parents that you have celiac disease + diabetes (other than they probably wish you didn't have to deal with the inconvenience) - and if it should occur in any children you may have - it'll make no difference to you :)

*shaking head* what an IDIOT!!!!! If it were my doc I would put in a complaint!!!!!
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Posted 22 October 2007 - 07:05 AM

When I told him I was planning on having children, he said "Well you don't want to pass your diseases on to your kids do you?"


First of all, tell him at least you can manage childbirth with a high-risk OB specialist. He can't do anything to keep from passing the a$$hole gene to his kids. <_< Then, fire his sorry butt and find yourself an OB practice you feel comfortable with and has experience with high-risk pregnancies.

What a schmuck. I'm sorry that happened to you.

Here is a helpful blog by a person who has T1 and Celiac AND a healthy baby girl!
http://wordpress.com...roduct-reviews/
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#12 ~alex~

 
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Posted 22 October 2007 - 01:15 PM

I'm glad everyone else was equally appalled by his comments. I thought I was just be oversensitive. I was able to talk to my GP who referred me to him and she was equally horrified and extremely apologetic. She wanted a second opinion about something and so she sent me to him because he is new in town and I would get in to see him quickest. She assured me she will never refer one of her patients to him again so I feel that at least something good came out of the experience.

I'm hoping in time I'll be able to laugh about the experience and stop letting what he said sew doubt into my mind.
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Posted 22 October 2007 - 01:44 PM

What a JERK!

As you said, it's better to exist with challenges than to not exist at all! Don't let this sow doubt in your mind. Ask that other organization we discussed for a recommendation for a doctor in your area. ;)
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Posted 24 October 2007 - 05:56 AM

My dad was Type 1 diabetes, though in his early 30's when he developed it. I suspect that he was also celiac. However. I was born about 2 years after he became diabetic. As I was growing up, he always said that he just hoped he lived long enough to see my sister (1 year older than me) and I graduate from high school. He died about 5 years ago at the age of 90. He still had functioning kidneys, eyes, brain, and both feet at the time of his death. He was a heavy smoker and died of complications of COPD. I'm glad nobody wanted to sterilize him when he was diagnosed, cause I'm glad to be here, in spite of some health issues.

I have a feeling what the docter was trying to do was to check to see if you wanted your tubes tied, because some women in your position would, knowing the complications to both mom and baby that diabetes can cause, and thinking that you would not bring it up because to do a tubal ligation on a woman your age with no children would not be something that a lot of docters would do, even if the woman wanted it desperately. If he is a new doc, when you said you wanted children, he didn't know what to say and so stuck his foot in his mouth and crammed it down his throat.

Even so, I'd find another GYN!

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Posted 24 October 2007 - 07:22 AM

He had no right to promote a permanent procedure such as a tubal. I have had Type 1 diabetes since 1986. In 1992 I had a girl and in 1994, I had a boy. Pregnancies went very well, I was induced at 36 weeks both times and delivered naturally.
I had a tubal done after #2 as a personal choice. Key word - choice that my husband and I made.
Once I indicated that I wuld like to start a family...this is how a doctor set it up...first it is a planned pregnancy with a discussion beforehand about management and risk factors for a Type 1 diabetic mom, then I was managed by a high risk pregnancy doctor.
No one knows what will or will not show up in your kids. Having babies is a chance for anyone - lots of healthy moms give birth to children facing medical challenges, and many moms with medical conditons give birth to healthy babies that remain healthy.
There was no history of diabetes or immune illness in my family - yet here I am with diabetes and kids with health issues. They are healthier though in comparison to classmates, live a full life and will be amazing adults.

Your doctor should not have brought up a tubal unless you had asked about it, he should have set up referrals to a doctor who could guide you and help you plan your future as a mom and make an informed decision. If he had concern about something being passed on....he should have also set you up with a genetic counsellor.

I think this guy watched too many sci fi movies about selective breeding .... :o :blink:

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Type 1 diabetes - 1986
hypothyroid -1993
pernicious anemia
premature atrial beats
neuropathy
retinopathy
daughter is: age 15
central hypotonia and developmental delay
balance issues (rides an adult 3 wheel bike)
hypothyroid 1996
dermatographia - a form of angioedema 2002
celiac 2004 - by endoscopy
diagnosed Aspergers at age 7 - responded very well (HUGE difference) to gluten-free diet
recovered from Kawasaki (2003)
lactose intolerant - figured out in Oct/06
Gilberts syndrome (April/07)
allergy to stinging insects
scoliosis Jan 2008
nightshade intolerance - figured out April 2008
allergy to Sulfa antibiotics

son is 13
type 1 diabetic - 2003 diagnosed on his 9th birthday
celiac - 2004 by endoscopy
lactose intolerant - figured out Nov/06




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