Gaining Weight Training For 1/2 Ironman Instead Of Losing
#1 Guest_hightop girl_*
Posted 23 March 2008 - 02:47 PM
#2
Posted 23 March 2008 - 03:32 PM
Daughter: Age 10 - Diagnosed Celiac and Gluten-Free 4/10/07 . . . and she's doing fabulous!!
Son: Age 12 - DQ2 Positive; No symptoms
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#3
Posted 23 March 2008 - 04:25 PM
Daughter diagnosed 1/06 bloodwork and biopsy
-gluten-free since 1/06
Son tested negative-bloodwork (8/07), intestinal issues prompted biospy (3/08), results negative, but very positive dietary response, Dr. diagnosed Celiac disease (3/8)
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#4
Posted 23 March 2008 - 05:04 PM
diagnosed type one diabetic 1973
diagnosed celiac winter 2005
diagnosed hypothyroid spring 2006
But healthy and happy!

11 year-old Son had negative blood panel, but went on gluten-free diet of his own volition to see if his concentration would improve, his temper abate, and his energy level would increase. Miraculous response!
The great are great only because we are on our knees.
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#5
Posted 23 March 2008 - 05:58 PM
based on the activity you list, in a week:
* you probably burn about 1000 calories swimming (I estimated about 2 hours total for 3000 yards based on my speed, so this is both ballpark and could be off)
* you probably burn about 4000 calories running (it's around 100 calories per mile, but a tiny bit less for many women)
* you probably burn about 5000 calories biking (I estimated 10 hours total for that distance, so it's a very rough estimate, I'm sure)
* you probably burn about at least 12,000 in just basal metabolic rate (based on 1700 calories per day to do basic body functions)
all that means that if you don't want to lose weight, you need to eat, on average, just over 3100 calories per day. if you're anywhere close to this (and I certainly wouldn't go anywhere under 2000 ever, not really under 2500, even if you are trying to lose weight), then you're almost certainly gaining muscle. doing that much activity, unless it's all easy as cake, has almost certainly got to be building muscle, which would have you increasing your mass. I wouldn't worry about it too much, especially training for something that strenuous.
Inconclusive Blood Tests, Positive Dietary Results, No Endoscopy
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#6 Guest_hightop girl_*
Posted 23 March 2008 - 07:46 PM
#7
Posted 25 March 2008 - 05:55 AM
I am also doing 1/2 Iron training, so I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.
I would strongly recommend looking more into your diet. I don't know what you training background is, but your program must ramp up pretty quick if you are doing that much training in the first 3 months.
Because of the energy systems used in very-long endurance training, your body is not in the catabolic state, therefore, it is very difficult -if not impossible - for substantial muscle gain during this time (especially in just 3 months).
Three to five pounds is not much of a gain, but I would monitor your heart rate (resting and during exercise), morning temperature and mood to rule out over-training syndrome.
For performance, and to prevent injuries, you have ensure adequate food intake. Play around with your diet and make sure you are eating enough. Weight gain often comes when your body is in starvation mode. Keep in mind that you are burning a tremendous amount of calories each week. Make sure your body has what it needs and let weight loss be a by-product of your hard training!
"Pure motivation enables you mind and body to become truly connected – you govern your training decisions by the messages that your body and emotions send to your brain"
Keep your motivation pure. Try to focus your energy on the love of the sport and the rest will fall into place.
Keep us posted. Train smart and stay healthy.
Hugs, Heather : )
#8 Guest_hightop girl_*
Posted 25 March 2008 - 07:18 AM
What are you eating on long runs and rides?
#9
Posted 29 March 2008 - 10:39 AM
In response to your question of what do I eat....I'm not sure yet. To be honest, I haven't found any solid food that feels good in me during long runs and rides. I use a lot of drinks. I am currently waiting for a shipment of Hammer products. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they will be what I am looking for. I sure feel like I need something of a little more substance some days....
Is there anything specific you've found that works good for you? Because of other sensitivities, I can't do a lot of the typically-recommended endurance foods. I am going to experiement the next few weeks in training to see what I can tolerate. Any suggestions?
H : )
#10 Guest_hightop girl_*
Posted 29 March 2008 - 04:56 PM
Heather22, on Mar 29 2008, 11:39 AM, said:
In response to your question of what do I eat....I'm not sure yet. To be honest, I haven't found any solid food that feels good in me during long runs and rides. I use a lot of drinks. I am currently waiting for a shipment of Hammer products. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they will be what I am looking for. I sure feel like I need something of a little more substance some days....
Is there anything specific you've found that works good for you? Because of other sensitivities, I can't do a lot of the typically-recommended endurance foods. I am going to experiement the next few weeks in training to see what I can tolerate. Any suggestions?
H : )
Lara bars work well for me. I did a 20 miler today, and ate 1/2 bar every 5 miles. I was going to try Hammer products, but I couldn't remember if they were on the safe list. I need something for the bike portion. I also realized yesterday that the cereal I was eating was wheat free--- not gluten free. One of my bodies responses is to retain a lot of water when I have gluten. Of course that is also its response to long runs! I had a great run today. I was supposed to do a marathon, but my daughter had ACL surgery, so I didn't travel to the marathon. So I did a 20 instead-- no real reason, just felt like running. I was always a 10 minute miler in a marathon. Since going gluten free, my times have been coming down. Today I average 8:30 per mile. That is probably really slow to you, but it is a huge improvement for me.
#11
Posted 01 April 2008 - 04:54 AM
That time improvement is fantastic! I know when I have a good run, I am so proud of myself and feel like telling everyone....must be the runner's high. That feeling is something special and is something that only few people can experience.
That is also encouraging that your race performance corresponds with you going gluten-free. That may be a sign that your body is healing as a result of going gluten-free. It is very important to find all those hidden sources of gluten, so you can omit them from your diet and start feeling even better. It sure took me a while before I figured out the best diet for me. However, it is an on-going learning experience and years later, I am still experimenting with food (not with gluten) and finding things that I can and can not tolerate.
Keep at it and let me know how the IM training is going. July 6th is my date!
Heather : )
#12 Guest_hightop girl_*
Posted 01 April 2008 - 09:15 PM
Heather22, on Apr 1 2008, 05:54 AM, said:
That time improvement is fantastic! I know when I have a good run, I am so proud of myself and feel like telling everyone....must be the runner's high. That feeling is something special and is something that only few people can experience.
That is also encouraging that your race performance corresponds with you going gluten-free. That may be a sign that your body is healing as a result of going gluten-free. It is very important to find all those hidden sources of gluten, so you can omit them from your diet and start feeling even better. It sure took me a while before I figured out the best diet for me. However, it is an on-going learning experience and years later, I am still experimenting with food (not with gluten) and finding things that I can and can not tolerate.
Keep at it and let me know how the IM training is going. July 6th is my date!
Heather : )
Where is your IM? I am trying very hard not to obsess about the number on the scales, and remember that I am faster and stronger than before. It is hard when I also realize I am hauling that extra 5 lbs. for a long ways.
#13
Posted 03 April 2008 - 03:09 PM
I'm only a runner, but thought I'd contribute to the fuel question. I have been using Clif shotblocks, but I'm planning to try Sharkies on my next long run. They are supposed to be less sweet. I also like Purefit bars, but I've never tried them while exercising. They are a balanced bar, not high-carb. I also like good ole Gatorade. I think most gels are gluten-free, too.
w.g.i.b.s.
High IGG, normal IGA and TTG.
Very positive dietary response.
Gluten-free since 12/26/05.
#14
Posted 09 April 2008 - 01:10 PM
You could perhaps try a couple days of lifting to shake things up a bit.. not that you could possibly have time for that!
I am a cyclist & cross country skier (skate skiing). I had been eating the clif blocks skiing but there may be CC issues with those. I liked them because you could eat 1/2 package and get 100 cal and that would be good for me for a 3 hour ski. I am going to try the sharkies or jelly belly equivalent. I am unable to drink gatorade or diluted or anything of the sort during exercise. I would in no way be able to eat a lara bar during exercise.. the fiber content would kill me. My husband has a pretty sensitive system while exercising and he does well with Gu which i believe is gluten free. You can also buy the bigger bottles of that and the small refillable ones which is cheaper.
-grace
#15 Guest_hightop girl_*
Posted 09 April 2008 - 07:30 PM
I think I am keeping the intensity up for at least one event per day, but the body does have a way of adapting.
Thanks for your help. I still need fueling ideas. I am hopeful that my weight will drop a couple more pounds.

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