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Posted 02 July 2008 - 05:35 PM

any horse lovers/riders here???
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Posted 16 August 2008 - 12:24 PM

hi,

yes horse lover here....bit i had to recently sell my new horse. glutened everytime i was around him. on hair, manure, hays, grains, and dust. i am sorry but i tried. i was glutened so bad i for got i had my spurs on(brain fog) and jumped on bareback. i spurred him hard accidently and i was thrown against an arena wall and broke my shoulder, arm, and ribs 3 weeks ago.

i am so bummed.

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 06:07 PM

Yes - and I wonder if this is why I am not recovering on gluten-free diet ? I take care to wash hands and try not to breath the dust ...but its hard not to.....

Solutions anyone ? I am thinking of changing to all lucerne hay.


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Posted 16 August 2008 - 06:53 PM

This is an interesting read:

http://www.celiaccentral.org/Research/Rese...30/vobId__1488/

I have chickens and use a mask and gloves and have noticed a significant difference.
Janet

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Posted 17 August 2008 - 06:05 AM

Hi!

I have an off-the-track TB mare, 8 years old...we got her from UConn's auction, they tried to make her into a polo pony which terrorized her, so she's definitely been a project horse.

I've never had a problem gluten-wise with her, my mom feeds her grain, and I'm just careful about not touching my face and washing my hands as soon as I come in from the barn (which I would do even w/o celiac!) I probably breathe a little bit in, but I've never had a noticeble reaction.
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Posted 17 August 2008 - 06:48 AM

<-----My girls were both in Pony Club and it was a wonderful time in their lives. I was a very proud mom! I have had horses for most of my life.

I'm glad that you all have a special place in your heart for horses.
Lisa

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 07:04 AM

View Postsru_gal_8504, on Jul 2 2008, 06:35 PM, said:

any horse lovers/riders here???




I am a horse lover!!!
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Posted 10 November 2008 - 08:53 PM

View Postjanetw, on Aug 16 2008, 10:53 PM, said:

This is an interesting read:

http://www.celiaccentral.org/Research/Rese...30/vobId__1488/

I have chickens and use a mask and gloves and have noticed a significant difference.


I have both chickens and horses and now also use a mask and gloves everytime I'm in the barn. I kept getting "mystery" glutenings before I started using the mask. I put the mask on first, before gloves, barn coat, boots etc., and then reverse the process and take the mask off last and immediately wash my hands.

I don't ride though, so I don't know what you'd do then. Maybe riding is ok if you're not in the barn and/or touching the feed?
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Son, age 18, previously delayed growth 3rd percentile weight, 25th percentile height (5'3" at age 15). Negative blood work. Endoscopy declined. Enterolab positive 3/12/08. Gene results: HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0201 HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0503 Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 2,1(Subtype 2,5) Went gluten-free, casein-free 3/15/08. Now 6'2" (Over six feet!) and doing great.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 06:25 AM

Even with the mask and gloves I wasn't feeling quite up to par so when we built our new chicken coop I started mixing my own feed sans WBRO and am finally feeling normal again. Plus, I hated having to suit up every time I went near the animals. It took my husband 4 days to scrub all of the wheat flour off of everything in the feed room of our barn.
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 09:22 AM

View Postsuett, on Aug 16 2008, 03:24 PM, said:

hi,

yes horse lover here....bit i had to recently sell my new horse. glutened everytime i was around him. on hair, manure, hays, grains, and dust. i am sorry but i tried. i was glutened so bad i for got i had my spurs on(brain fog) and jumped on bareback. i spurred him hard accidently and i was thrown against an arena wall and broke my shoulder, arm, and ribs 3 weeks ago.

i am so bummed.

best wishes,
sue t

Another horse lover here!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When my DH leased me a horse for a month, I wore an N95 mask for grooming (looked ridiculous but didn't care!)and gloves. It worked OK.

SueT- I am SO sorry- that's awful- maybe when you heal?

I've read (somewhere) that horses can be switched to a gluten-free feed (corn and other stuff).
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 10:32 AM

View Postjanetw, on Nov 11 2008, 10:25 AM, said:

Even with the mask and gloves I wasn't feeling quite up to par so when we built our new chicken coop I started mixing my own feed sans WBRO and am finally feeling normal again. Plus, I hated having to suit up every time I went near the animals. It took my husband 4 days to scrub all of the wheat flour off of everything in the feed room of our barn.


Janet, what do you put in your chicken feed? Where do you buy it?

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Son, age 18, previously delayed growth 3rd percentile weight, 25th percentile height (5'3" at age 15). Negative blood work. Endoscopy declined. Enterolab positive 3/12/08. Gene results: HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0201 HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0503 Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 2,1(Subtype 2,5) Went gluten-free, casein-free 3/15/08. Now 6'2" (Over six feet!) and doing great.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 11:35 AM

I am currently using Fertrell's Organic Poultry Nutri-Balancer and their recipe without oats in their feeders but am researching a few alternatives with our local extension service because nutribalancer is extremely hard to get. I also feed them a hodgepodge of brown rice, cooked beans, peas, flax seed, kelp, sunflower seeds, kitchen leftovers, etc. and free range them during the day. As I'm sure you know they'll eat just about anything so the only thing you have be concerned with is getting the right nutrients and protein ratio.

This site is helpful http://www.lionsgrip.com/intro.html
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 12:02 PM

View Postjanetw, on Nov 11 2008, 03:35 PM, said:

I am currently using Fertrell's Organic Poultry Nutri-Balancer and their recipe without oats in their feeders but am researching a few alternatives with our local extension service because nutribalancer is extremely hard to get. I also feed them a hodgepodge of brown rice, cooked beans, peas, flax seed, kelp, sunflower seeds, kitchen leftovers, etc. and free range them during the day. As I'm sure you know they'll eat just about anything so the only thing you have be concerned with is getting the right nutrients and protein ratio.

This site is helpful http://www.lionsgrip.com/intro.html


Thank you...although my to-do list doesn't need anything else added to it. :o :angry:

~Laura
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"Great difficulties may be surmounted by patience and perseverance." Abigail Adams (1744-1818) 2nd First Lady of the United States
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Posted 11 December 2008 - 10:42 AM

Horse lover here!!! My 22 year old gelding just passed on this past summer from cancer. my avatar is him though.

I never had a problem with gluten through hay, feed, or dust at the barn. In fact I was way healthier before I lost him, perhaps that's all in my head though, from grief. Mom is allergic to hay, horses, etc. so she just made me shower after each barn visit and nobody had trouble.

If anyone knows of a place in Atlanta Georgia area that needs a volunteer helper for their horses, let me know!
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Posted 11 December 2008 - 08:25 PM

Hi everybody

A horsey thread--I love it! I keep my two horses at home and ride often, usually trailer out to meet friends. I have never had any problem getting glutened around the horses. I feed a low-grain feed that has only a teensy amount of wheat and no barley, rye or oats. And I wash my hands when I come in from the barn. I do not use straw, which I have reason to believe would be a problem, since most straw around here is wheat or rye. I'm glad I don't have to board where I couldn't control such things.

I am amazed that most of the new "low-carb" horse feeds have wheat as the main ingredient.

Those of you experiencing glutening from horses, where do you think it is coming from?

BTW I have been gluten-free for 21 months. I had been getting weaker and weaker, even after going gluten-free. After 4 months on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet I started growing muscles again--it has made a big difference in my riding and ability to handle issues with my big bossy horse (the other one is a peach).
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