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#1 Juliebove

 
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Posted 22 July 2008 - 05:16 PM

My husband keeps bugging me to take our daughter to a local Pho restaurant. He insists there is nothing in the noodles that she is allergic to. However, he has no clue about food allergies or cooking. He once took her for Teriyaki. She is allergic not only to wheat and gluten, but soy and peanuts. Gah! She was sick for two days after that.

I looked up some recipes for Pho and while it could potentially be safe, it could just as well be unsafe. If they are using canned/boxed/concentrated broth, it could contain wheat or soy. And the fish sauce could contain wheat.

Yeah, I know I could make this myself but it doesn't sound all that appealing to me and not something I want to make. I don't digest meat well and I have diabetes so I have to watch it with the noodles.
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Posted 22 July 2008 - 05:19 PM

I love pho, but I don't dare trust the restaurants for it--too many gluteny beef bases and soy sauces. It's practically a given that it WILL contain gluten.

However, there is a great recipe for it in Gluten-Free for Dummies (she calls it "Faux Pho"), which I make all the time.

I hate to say this, but it sounds like the biggest problem is not food, nor restaurants, but your husband.
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Posted 22 July 2008 - 05:35 PM

Mmmmmmmm I used to love Pho - vietnamese co-workers got me started long ago - but SO many potential issues. :(

W/out absolute proof, I wouldn't trust the 'rice noodles' to be just mostly rice w/ a good amount of wheat.
Far more common than I used to think.

And I'd have to agree w/ Fiddle-Faddle on bases, sauces, & also meat marinades.
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Posted 22 July 2008 - 08:52 PM

I love pho, but I don't dare trust the restaurants for it--too many gluteny beef bases and soy sauces. It's practically a given that it WILL contain gluten.

However, there is a great recipe for it in Gluten-Free for Dummies (she calls it "Faux Pho"), which I make all the time.

I hate to say this, but it sounds like the biggest problem is not food, nor restaurants, but your husband.


Yes. Daughter generally won't go out to eat with just him unless it is a restaurant we have eaten at before and she knows what is safe to eat. I envision problems in foreign restaurants because the people don't necessarily speak English very well. And even when they do and even in non-foreign restaurants, they don't necessarily understand things like gluten.

Thanks!
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Posted 22 July 2008 - 08:53 PM

Mmmmmmmm I used to love Pho - vietnamese co-workers got me started long ago - but SO many potential issues. :(

W/out absolute proof, I wouldn't trust the 'rice noodles' to be just mostly rice w/ a good amount of wheat.
Far more common than I used to think.

And I'd have to agree w/ Fiddle-Faddle on bases, sauces, & also meat marinades.


That's what I was thinking. Thanks!
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:02 AM

My husband keeps bugging me to take our daughter to a local Pho restaurant. He insists there is nothing in the noodles that she is allergic to. However, he has no clue about food allergies or cooking. He once took her for Teriyaki. She is allergic not only to wheat and gluten, but soy and peanuts. Gah! She was sick for two days after that.

I looked up some recipes for Pho and while it could potentially be safe, it could just as well be unsafe. If they are using canned/boxed/concentrated broth, it could contain wheat or soy. And the fish sauce could contain wheat.

Yeah, I know I could make this myself but it doesn't sound all that appealing to me and not something I want to make. I don't digest meat well and I have diabetes so I have to watch it with the noodles.



The Hoisin sauce (plum) on the side is a problem. It contains wheat. I've had the soup without that sauce and it was great. You should definitely ask though. A waiter brought out the label to my table.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:16 AM

Hoisin sauce and plum sauce are two different sauces!

There ARE many brands of gluten-free hoisin sauces, including Dynasty and Golden Pagoda.

gluten-free brands of plum sauce (or duck sauce, which is similar) include Lee Kum Kee and Oriental Mascot.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:18 AM

Check out http://crockpot365.blogspot.com/ for a pho recipe you can make in your crockpot, as well as over 200 gluten-free crockpot recipes. This gal is amazing! And every recipe of hers that I have tried has been a winner (as well as a Godsend, since they are so easy, and yet force you to be organized).
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:02 PM

The Hoisin sauce (plum) on the side is a problem. It contains wheat. I've had the soup without that sauce and it was great. You should definitely ask though. A waiter brought out the label to my table.


Thanks!
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:04 PM

Check out http://crockpot365.blogspot.com/ for a pho recipe you can make in your crockpot, as well as over 200 gluten-free crockpot recipes. This gal is amazing! And every recipe of hers that I have tried has been a winner (as well as a Godsend, since they are so easy, and yet force you to be organized).


Yes. I have seen her site. Pho just isn't something I am interested in making at home. I most likely wouldn't/couldn't eat it and husband would only eat it if very hot/spicy. But thanks!
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Posted 14 September 2011 - 05:58 PM

It's so hard for me not to eat Pho as I am vietnamese myself lol. Pho contains a lot of MSG so it's a no for me
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Posted 14 September 2011 - 06:56 PM

Addressing just the gluten angle, since I don't worry about soy or peanuts and can't say.

Pho made the real way should be gluten-free. I've yet to find a fish sauce with wheat, although I'm not saying there isn't one. The beef base should be made at the restaurant, not out of a can (and the majority of broths are in fact gluten-free anyway). I rarely if ever see an actual "rice" noodle that contains wheat, especially since wheat is more expensive than rice. Will there be CC at the restaurant? Well, that can happen most anywhere.

Bottom line? Ask. Just as at any restaurant.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 06:08 PM

The risk of CC in vietnamese restaurants is high since they use soy, and they fry a lot of rice dishes. Plus communication is not always easy
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Posted 19 September 2011 - 07:52 PM

The risk of CC in vietnamese restaurants is high since they use soy, and they fry a lot of rice dishes. Plus communication is not always easy


This is why I would not go. It's a moot point now anyway. She is on a low carb diet.
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Posted 20 September 2011 - 06:42 PM

One thing that's nice about Vietnamese restaurants is that they usually have several dishes that are not made with any soy sauce and are pretty light, steamed, fresh dishes. A lot of them will have a grilled chicken and rice dish that is prety plain but still tasty. So maybe that could be an option. I'd probably find out ahead of time if they marinate the meat of their grilled dishes and if so in what. I have not had problems with a similar dish at my local Vietnamese restaurant.
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