Get email alerts Get Celiac.com E-mail Alerts  




Celiac.com Sponsor:
Celiac.com Sponsor:




Ads by Google:






   Get email alerts  Subscribe to FREE Celiac.com email alerts

  • Announcements

    • admin

      Frequently Asked Questions About Celiac Disease   09/30/2015

      This Celiac.com FAQ on celiac disease will guide you to all of the basic information you will need to know about the disease, its diagnosis, testing methods, a gluten-free diet, etc.   Subscribe to FREE Celiac.com email alerts What are the major symptoms of celiac disease? Celiac Disease Symptoms What testing is available for celiac disease? - list blood tests, endo with biopsy, genetic test and enterolab (not diagnostic) Celiac Disease Screening Interpretation of Celiac Disease Blood Test Results Can I be tested even though I am eating gluten free? How long must gluten be taken for the serological tests to be meaningful? The Gluten-Free Diet 101 - A Beginner's Guide to Going Gluten-Free Is celiac inherited? Should my children be tested? Ten Facts About Celiac Disease Genetic Testing Is there a link between celiac and other autoimmune diseases? Celiac Disease Research: Associated Diseases and Disorders Is there a list of gluten foods to avoid? Unsafe Gluten-Free Food List (Unsafe Ingredients) Is there a list of gluten free foods? Safe Gluten-Free Food List (Safe Ingredients) Gluten-Free Alcoholic Beverages Distilled Spirits (Grain Alcohols) and Vinegar: Are they Gluten-Free? Where does gluten hide? Additional Things to Beware of to Maintain a 100% Gluten-Free Diet Free recipes: Gluten-Free Recipes Where can I buy gluten-free stuff? Support this site by shopping at The Celiac.com Store.

Pho
0

20 posts in this topic

My husband keeps bugging me to take our daughter to a local Pho restaurant. He insists there is nothing in the noodles that she is allergic to. However, he has no clue about food allergies or cooking. He once took her for Teriyaki. She is allergic not only to wheat and gluten, but soy and peanuts. Gah! She was sick for two days after that.

I looked up some recipes for Pho and while it could potentially be safe, it could just as well be unsafe. If they are using canned/boxed/concentrated broth, it could contain wheat or soy. And the fish sauce could contain wheat.

Yeah, I know I could make this myself but it doesn't sound all that appealing to me and not something I want to make. I don't digest meat well and I have diabetes so I have to watch it with the noodles.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


Ads by Google:

I love pho, but I don't dare trust the restaurants for it--too many gluteny beef bases and soy sauces. It's practically a given that it WILL contain gluten.

However, there is a great recipe for it in Gluten-Free for Dummies (she calls it "Faux Pho"), which I make all the time.

I hate to say this, but it sounds like the biggest problem is not food, nor restaurants, but your husband.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mmmmmmmm I used to love Pho - vietnamese co-workers got me started long ago - but SO many potential issues. :(

W/out absolute proof, I wouldn't trust the 'rice noodles' to be just mostly rice w/ a good amount of wheat.

Far more common than I used to think.

And I'd have to agree w/ Fiddle-Faddle on bases, sauces, & also meat marinades.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I love pho, but I don't dare trust the restaurants for it--too many gluteny beef bases and soy sauces. It's practically a given that it WILL contain gluten.

However, there is a great recipe for it in Gluten-Free for Dummies (she calls it "Faux Pho"), which I make all the time.

I hate to say this, but it sounds like the biggest problem is not food, nor restaurants, but your husband.

Yes. Daughter generally won't go out to eat with just him unless it is a restaurant we have eaten at before and she knows what is safe to eat. I envision problems in foreign restaurants because the people don't necessarily speak English very well. And even when they do and even in non-foreign restaurants, they don't necessarily understand things like gluten.

Thanks!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Mmmmmmmm I used to love Pho - vietnamese co-workers got me started long ago - but SO many potential issues. :(

W/out absolute proof, I wouldn't trust the 'rice noodles' to be just mostly rice w/ a good amount of wheat.

Far more common than I used to think.

And I'd have to agree w/ Fiddle-Faddle on bases, sauces, & also meat marinades.

That's what I was thinking. Thanks!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites




My husband keeps bugging me to take our daughter to a local Pho restaurant. He insists there is nothing in the noodles that she is allergic to. However, he has no clue about food allergies or cooking. He once took her for Teriyaki. She is allergic not only to wheat and gluten, but soy and peanuts. Gah! She was sick for two days after that.

I looked up some recipes for Pho and while it could potentially be safe, it could just as well be unsafe. If they are using canned/boxed/concentrated broth, it could contain wheat or soy. And the fish sauce could contain wheat.

Yeah, I know I could make this myself but it doesn't sound all that appealing to me and not something I want to make. I don't digest meat well and I have diabetes so I have to watch it with the noodles.

The Hoisin sauce (plum) on the side is a problem. It contains wheat. I've had the soup without that sauce and it was great. You should definitely ask though. A waiter brought out the label to my table.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hoisin sauce and plum sauce are two different sauces!

There ARE many brands of gluten-free hoisin sauces, including Dynasty and Golden Pagoda.

gluten-free brands of plum sauce (or duck sauce, which is similar) include Lee Kum Kee and Oriental Mascot.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Check out http://crockpot365.blogspot.com/ for a pho recipe you can make in your crockpot, as well as over 200 gluten-free crockpot recipes. This gal is amazing! And every recipe of hers that I have tried has been a winner (as well as a Godsend, since they are so easy, and yet force you to be organized).

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The Hoisin sauce (plum) on the side is a problem. It contains wheat. I've had the soup without that sauce and it was great. You should definitely ask though. A waiter brought out the label to my table.

Thanks!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Check out http://crockpot365.blogspot.com/ for a pho recipe you can make in your crockpot, as well as over 200 gluten-free crockpot recipes. This gal is amazing! And every recipe of hers that I have tried has been a winner (as well as a Godsend, since they are so easy, and yet force you to be organized).

Yes. I have seen her site. Pho just isn't something I am interested in making at home. I most likely wouldn't/couldn't eat it and husband would only eat it if very hot/spicy. But thanks!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's so hard for me not to eat Pho as I am vietnamese myself lol. Pho contains a lot of MSG so it's a no for me

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Addressing just the gluten angle, since I don't worry about soy or peanuts and can't say.

Pho made the real way should be gluten-free. I've yet to find a fish sauce with wheat, although I'm not saying there isn't one. The beef base should be made at the restaurant, not out of a can (and the majority of broths are in fact gluten-free anyway). I rarely if ever see an actual "rice" noodle that contains wheat, especially since wheat is more expensive than rice. Will there be CC at the restaurant? Well, that can happen most anywhere.

Bottom line? Ask. Just as at any restaurant.

richard

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The risk of CC in vietnamese restaurants is high since they use soy, and they fry a lot of rice dishes. Plus communication is not always easy

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The risk of CC in vietnamese restaurants is high since they use soy, and they fry a lot of rice dishes. Plus communication is not always easy

This is why I would not go. It's a moot point now anyway. She is on a low carb diet.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

One thing that's nice about Vietnamese restaurants is that they usually have several dishes that are not made with any soy sauce and are pretty light, steamed, fresh dishes. A lot of them will have a grilled chicken and rice dish that is prety plain but still tasty. So maybe that could be an option. I'd probably find out ahead of time if they marinate the meat of their grilled dishes and if so in what. I have not had problems with a similar dish at my local Vietnamese restaurant.

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The risk of CC in vietnamese restaurants is high since they use soy, and they fry a lot of rice dishes. Plus communication is not always easy

They use a lot of soy, or soy sauce? Soy itself is not a problem for celiacs (unless you are also intolerant of soy).

richard

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I made the 365 crockpot recipe over the weekend, very good! I added some mushrooms for a little more stubstance. Wife add straw mushrooms and baby bok choi to hers.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Pho is one of my most favorite foods ever. I use the rice noodles in in all types of dishes because they are gluten free. Most Vietnamese foods is already gluten free because they use rice as their primary starch and they don't use soy sauce very often in their cuisine.

Any good pho place will make their own broth from bones rather than bouillon. I have never heard of a place using prepackaged soup or broth for their soups it would not be very cost effective, it doesn't really make sense to me but I guess it's not impossible, but easy enough to just ask about. 

I had pho tonight, it was amazing, I made sure to ask that they make the broth with gluten-free fish sauce, I double checked and asked about how the chicken was cooked(it's almost always just boiled and sliced) and I did not use their hoisen sauce, I have my own gluten free hoisen sauce. I also don't do MSG so that narrows the places I can go down a lot. I recommend finding a good pho place you can talk to someone who really knows the answers to what you're asking, I always call ahead. The very sweet woman I spoke to tonight didn't speak english very well so she called her daughter who then called me and we talked ingredients. Now I know for sure I can eat at the Saigon Boat Cafe on Alki beach in Seattle. Pho is a staple for me here in the rainy northwest during winter time, I can't imagine going without it! 

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They use a lot of soy, or soy sauce? Soy itself is not a problem for celiacs (unless you are also intolerant of soy).

richard

Soy sauce is usually made with wheat, wheat free soy sauce is called tamari. But Vietnamese food has a lot of options that are naturally gluten free and soy sauce free.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just an FYI - you are responding to a thread from 2011.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
0

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      103,402
    • Total Posts
      917,627
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Enjoy Life/ Perky's Cereal
      I am super bummed. I just went to order my breakfast staple for the last 10 years from Amazon  - my case of Enjoy Life's Crunchy Rice - over the last number of years it has gone though name and packaging changes but it has always been there for me for breakfast There is no more in stock at  Amazon so I contacted the company and found out that they are no longer going to be making any cereals. No Crunchy Rice or Crunchy Flax .  Super sad.  I need to find a replacement and i am very picky. I am looking for a simple cereal not sweet and not mushy in milk. I am not able to eat corn so it can not contain corn.  Any ideas for me? Michele
    • celiac disease is psychosomatic
      CoQ10 deficiency can also cause balance issues.
    • Starting out
      Hi, as a Noob, I am a little intimidated by what may come to be a major change in my eating habits. My middle has been uncomfortable for a couple of years and I got no help or input from my GP so I went to a GI Dr who checked me throughly and found nothing out of sorts other than some minor irritation in my esophogus and prescribed a medication. My stomach/mid section still is uncomfortable and really disturbingly big. The GP finally suggested that I try being gluten free for 6 weeks to see if it made a difference. I have no other symptoms of gluten intolerance, as far I know. I've had anxiety issues longer than the stomach discomfort but I am having depression and lethargy so I guess I will try to rule this out. My question is, how strict does this have to be in order to ascertain that there is a correlation between my discomfort and possible gluten allergy? How stringent is the cross contamination issue, like using a toaster oven and other daily food prep precautions. Right now, eating like this for 6 weeks feels like 6 years. But if I start to feel better in a few weeks, I guess I'll make the transistion permanently, and I'd really like my gut to be normal looking, or at least not 7 months pregnant.  Female, nearly 70, 5'8", overweight at 170 lbs.  Thanks.
    • New App Helps Celiac Sufferers Track Gluten-free Expenses
      Frustrated by the process of tracking gluten-free expenses in hopes of using the Canadian government's tax credit, which entitles people with celiac disease to claim the incremental costs, accountant Justin Gravelle has released an app called Celitax... View the full article
    • Celiac.com: The food revolution that is minting millionaires
      On a global scale, the market for organic, functional allergen-free and ... to give up Chinese food after going on a gluten-free diet for Celiac disease, ... View the full article
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Entries

  • Recent Status Updates

    • Larry Gessner  »  cyclinglady

      Hi There, I don't know if there is a place for videos in the forum. I just watched "The Truth About Gluten" I think it is a good video. I would like to share it somewhere but don't know where it should go. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
      Here is the link if you have never watched it.
      https://youtu.be/IU6jVEwpjnE Thank You,
      Larry
      · 2 replies
    • ChiaChick  »  Peaceflower

      Hi Peaceflower, Just wanted to say thank you for the chat.
      · 0 replies
    • ukuleleerika

      Hello! I am new to this Celiac website... Is there anyone out there with Celiac AND extensive food allergies? My allergies include shellfish, dairy, eggs, cantaloupe, kiwi, mango, nuts, oranges, red dye, and more I can't think of. I went to the allergist about a year ago to see why I wasn't feeling well, and once everything was eliminated, I still didn't feel well. We did more testing to find out I had celiac as well as allergies to cattle as well as rye grass (I live on a farm basically). This was back in January 2016. I recently had my endoscopy with the gastroenterologist a week ago. I have no idea what to do or what to eat... So fish and potatoes for me!
      · 2 replies
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      60,534
    • Most Online
      1,763

    Newest Member
    Sullyn
    Joined