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Hi, all,
Well...Being new to all of this, I have been most concerned with lipsticks/glosses/chap lip products, etc...as far as gluten in cosmetics goes...
So, I would like for this "Thread" to only discuss those products, if possible.
This is what I have found out on my own and gathered from these posts/other Net sources, etc: (Please add any add'l info....)
gluten-free Lip products:
Trish McEvoy
I called. Was told they get the question about gluten-free all the time.
They reassured me that ALL of their lip products are gluten-free
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DuWop (Venom Gloss and Venom Flash)-
I called. Was told the owners said "NO Gluten"
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Just found this product on the Net:
Logona:
Name Logona Organic Lip Pencils (Lipsticks)
Supplier
Wholistic Horizons
Description
Logona Lip Pencils are an alternative to normal lipsticks. They are a more practical concept when it comes to accuracy. They come in attractive wooden pencil form.
Come in nine different shades: silver pearl, apricot, chestnut, aubergine, bright red, coral, terracotta, bronze, mahogany.
Ingredients: beeswax, candelilla wax (plant wax), carnauba wax (plant wax), cocoa butter, tocopherol (natural vitamine E), coconut oil, jojoba oil,talc, mica, iron oxides.
[Are all of those ingredients OK?]
Ingredients certified organic by ECOCERT. Product Attributes Cruelty free, ethical business practices, improve wellbeing, all natural ingredients, no animal testing, organic
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Lancome
gluten-free lip products from Lancome:
Juicy Tubes
Star Gloss
Color Dose Lip
Lip Dimension
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Cover Girl:
continuous color lipstick is gluten-free
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Burt’s Bees
All lip products are gluten-free
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Ecco Bella
All lip products are gluten-free
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Neutrogena
Instant Lip Remedy
Lip Boost Intense Moisture Lipstick SPF 20
Lip Boost Intense Moisture Therapy
Lip Moisturizer SPF 15
Lip Nutrition- All
MoistureShine Lip Gloss
Overnight Lip Therapy
Shimmer Sheers (all shades) [Is that one a lip product?]
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Chapstick
Lip moisturizer - Vanilla mint , or vanilla raspberry, SPF 15
Lip moisturizer - SPF 15 - both stick and tube
Medicated squeeze tube
Sun Zone - Ultra 30 Berry
Childrens' Chapstick:
Flava Craze: blue crazeberry, fruit punch, grape, watermelon splash (SPF15)
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OPI
Lipsticks
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Trend
Lip gloss
Lip pencils (wood case)
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Euorpean Collection
lipsticks
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That's all I have so far...
Am still wondering about:
Estee Lauder
Clinique
and
Revlon
Thanks for any add'l info,
Hope this helps other newbies - just wanted to 'consolidate' this important info, and save time for others -
Gina
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Lip Products Only Please
What I have found out so far...
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#1
FaithInScienceToo 
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 01:55 PM
"Get busy living
or get busy dying."
From: The Shawshank Redemption
--------------------------------------------------------------
gluten-free since Jan 1 '05
Positive response to diet within days, felt 'alive again' within 2 weeks
Feb 22 '05:
Diagnosed "Celiac Sprue, and IBS" by a GI doc, Dr. David Lin of Danville, CA
via blood testing 53 days after I began the gluten-free diet on my own:
Test results at 53 days POST going gluten-free were:
Gliadin AB IgA = 29.9
Since 30+ = positive for Celiac Disease when ingesting gluten, my doc
diagnosed me with Celiac Sprue then and there.
Gliadin AB IgG was 5.6 at that point
-------------------------------------------
Endoscopy with biopsies, AND colonoscopy with biopsies were done,
only to rule out other possible GI problems (especially intestinal
lymphoma) - My doctor told me the results indicated "no current damage
found" - and that as long as I stay gluten-free, I don't need another
biopsy for ten years.
Follow-up blood testing was done about one year later, by the same
Gastro doc, in Nov '05:
Gliadin AB IgA =26, Gliadin AB IgG <1
Blood testing done again by him, 5 months later (March '06)
He then told me my tests results were back to normal, and "Keep up the
good work! You can't argue with success!" :-)
I now see him one time per year for routine testing to make sure I am
staying gluten-free.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADDTIONALLY:
I was also diagnosed as positive for antibodies and autoimmune
response to gliadin by Enterolab, via stool specimen taken 56 days
gluten-free
and I have one of the two genes that 'cause' Celiac Disease:
"HLA-DQ8," via Enterolabs cheek cell test kit
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I began a COMPLETE 'Gluten-free Casein-free' diet in Nov '05, due to:
"positive" for casein antibodies from Enterolab (in Feb '05)
and
"positive" for casein IgG (Elisa) via York Labs' finger-prick blood
test, Sept '05
and continued 'stomach pains,' although nothing compared to before
going gluten-free....
UPDATE: ALL remaining symptoms disappeared within weeks of going gluten-free&CF!
**********************
My PAST illnesses I believe are attributable to Untreated Celiac Disease:
Recurrent ear and throat infections in childhood
Frequent childhood stomach aches, underweight, picky eater
Tooth enamel problems/excessive cavities in childhood
Diagnosed in 20's with non-allergic rhinitis
Two spontaneous abortions (childless)
IBS diagnosis at age 28 (all better post going gluten-free and casein-free)
["Horrible" digestive problems from ages 32-47 - excess gas,
diarrhea gone post gluten-free!]
Reflux diagnosis at age 35 ('reflux' gone post gluten-free)
ADHD diagnosis at age 38 and at age 48 (not as bad with Gluten-free Casein-free diet)
Broke elbow in 2 places, age 39
Osteopenia diagnosed at age 44 (bone scan revealed thinning of spine -
taking Calcium and Vit D now)
Fibromyalgia diagnosis at age 40 (fatigue and pain all gone post gluten-free!)
Minor depression with anxiety diagnosed at age 42 (taking Paxil)
Skin cancer - squamous at age 43 and pre-melanoma at age 45
Adult acne (this, too, went away, but only after going dairy-free)
Topical dermatitis (so bad I needed steroid shots) diagnosed at age 46
(That's gone now, too!)
Excessive bruising of skin began at age 45:
I was told by derm doc AND family physician "That's just thin, aging
skin, nothing you can do about that" (GUESS WHAT?! ...NO unusual
bruising POST going gluten-free! I can now wear skirts and shorts
again!)
SO many years of being sick...
Hopefully, others will benefit from Science, and the increasing media
attention being given to Celiac Disease and gluten-based illnesses,
and will not have to go through what I, and others on here, have had
to go through.
or get busy dying."
From: The Shawshank Redemption
--------------------------------------------------------------
gluten-free since Jan 1 '05
Positive response to diet within days, felt 'alive again' within 2 weeks
Feb 22 '05:
Diagnosed "Celiac Sprue, and IBS" by a GI doc, Dr. David Lin of Danville, CA
via blood testing 53 days after I began the gluten-free diet on my own:
Test results at 53 days POST going gluten-free were:
Gliadin AB IgA = 29.9
Since 30+ = positive for Celiac Disease when ingesting gluten, my doc
diagnosed me with Celiac Sprue then and there.
Gliadin AB IgG was 5.6 at that point
-------------------------------------------
Endoscopy with biopsies, AND colonoscopy with biopsies were done,
only to rule out other possible GI problems (especially intestinal
lymphoma) - My doctor told me the results indicated "no current damage
found" - and that as long as I stay gluten-free, I don't need another
biopsy for ten years.
Follow-up blood testing was done about one year later, by the same
Gastro doc, in Nov '05:
Gliadin AB IgA =26, Gliadin AB IgG <1
Blood testing done again by him, 5 months later (March '06)
He then told me my tests results were back to normal, and "Keep up the
good work! You can't argue with success!" :-)
I now see him one time per year for routine testing to make sure I am
staying gluten-free.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADDTIONALLY:
I was also diagnosed as positive for antibodies and autoimmune
response to gliadin by Enterolab, via stool specimen taken 56 days
gluten-free
and I have one of the two genes that 'cause' Celiac Disease:
"HLA-DQ8," via Enterolabs cheek cell test kit
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I began a COMPLETE 'Gluten-free Casein-free' diet in Nov '05, due to:
"positive" for casein antibodies from Enterolab (in Feb '05)
and
"positive" for casein IgG (Elisa) via York Labs' finger-prick blood
test, Sept '05
and continued 'stomach pains,' although nothing compared to before
going gluten-free....
UPDATE: ALL remaining symptoms disappeared within weeks of going gluten-free&CF!
**********************
My PAST illnesses I believe are attributable to Untreated Celiac Disease:
Recurrent ear and throat infections in childhood
Frequent childhood stomach aches, underweight, picky eater
Tooth enamel problems/excessive cavities in childhood
Diagnosed in 20's with non-allergic rhinitis
Two spontaneous abortions (childless)
IBS diagnosis at age 28 (all better post going gluten-free and casein-free)
["Horrible" digestive problems from ages 32-47 - excess gas,
diarrhea gone post gluten-free!]
Reflux diagnosis at age 35 ('reflux' gone post gluten-free)
ADHD diagnosis at age 38 and at age 48 (not as bad with Gluten-free Casein-free diet)
Broke elbow in 2 places, age 39
Osteopenia diagnosed at age 44 (bone scan revealed thinning of spine -
taking Calcium and Vit D now)
Fibromyalgia diagnosis at age 40 (fatigue and pain all gone post gluten-free!)
Minor depression with anxiety diagnosed at age 42 (taking Paxil)
Skin cancer - squamous at age 43 and pre-melanoma at age 45
Adult acne (this, too, went away, but only after going dairy-free)
Topical dermatitis (so bad I needed steroid shots) diagnosed at age 46
(That's gone now, too!)
Excessive bruising of skin began at age 45:
I was told by derm doc AND family physician "That's just thin, aging
skin, nothing you can do about that" (GUESS WHAT?! ...NO unusual
bruising POST going gluten-free! I can now wear skirts and shorts
again!)
SO many years of being sick...
Hopefully, others will benefit from Science, and the increasing media
attention being given to Celiac Disease and gluten-based illnesses,
and will not have to go through what I, and others on here, have had
to go through.
#2
MySuicidalTurtle
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 04:29 PM
Here is the list for Blistex. . .(I typed it from a .pdf type file so forgive any spelling errors)
Blistex Lip Ointment
Blistex Lip Balm (Regular, Berry, Mint, and Ultra)
Blistex Lip Tone
Comlete Moisture
Daily Conditioning Treatment SPF-20
Herbal Answer Lip Balm
Herbal Answer Gel
Lip Medex
Lip Revitalizer
Kank-a Liquid
Blistex Silk & Shine
Blistex Fruit Smoothies (Berry Explosion, Merry Melody, and Triple Tropical)
Blistex Clear Advanced
Blistex Lip Ointment
Blistex Lip Balm (Regular, Berry, Mint, and Ultra)
Blistex Lip Tone
Comlete Moisture
Daily Conditioning Treatment SPF-20
Herbal Answer Lip Balm
Herbal Answer Gel
Lip Medex
Lip Revitalizer
Kank-a Liquid
Blistex Silk & Shine
Blistex Fruit Smoothies (Berry Explosion, Merry Melody, and Triple Tropical)
Blistex Clear Advanced
#3
FaithInScienceToo
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 04:38 PM
OOPS - I thought this first post of mine on this topic had disappeared...I couldn't locate it afterwards ...that's why I added the other "lip product" post...includng only what I was certain of-
All of the additional stuff I posted here came from posts on this site and other good Net sources, so it should all be ok...If anyone sees a problem with anything, let me/us know. Thanks, G
All of the additional stuff I posted here came from posts on this site and other good Net sources, so it should all be ok...If anyone sees a problem with anything, let me/us know. Thanks, G
"Get busy living
or get busy dying."
From: The Shawshank Redemption
--------------------------------------------------------------
gluten-free since Jan 1 '05
Positive response to diet within days, felt 'alive again' within 2 weeks
Feb 22 '05:
Diagnosed "Celiac Sprue, and IBS" by a GI doc, Dr. David Lin of Danville, CA
via blood testing 53 days after I began the gluten-free diet on my own:
Test results at 53 days POST going gluten-free were:
Gliadin AB IgA = 29.9
Since 30+ = positive for Celiac Disease when ingesting gluten, my doc
diagnosed me with Celiac Sprue then and there.
Gliadin AB IgG was 5.6 at that point
-------------------------------------------
Endoscopy with biopsies, AND colonoscopy with biopsies were done,
only to rule out other possible GI problems (especially intestinal
lymphoma) - My doctor told me the results indicated "no current damage
found" - and that as long as I stay gluten-free, I don't need another
biopsy for ten years.
Follow-up blood testing was done about one year later, by the same
Gastro doc, in Nov '05:
Gliadin AB IgA =26, Gliadin AB IgG <1
Blood testing done again by him, 5 months later (March '06)
He then told me my tests results were back to normal, and "Keep up the
good work! You can't argue with success!" :-)
I now see him one time per year for routine testing to make sure I am
staying gluten-free.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADDTIONALLY:
I was also diagnosed as positive for antibodies and autoimmune
response to gliadin by Enterolab, via stool specimen taken 56 days
gluten-free
and I have one of the two genes that 'cause' Celiac Disease:
"HLA-DQ8," via Enterolabs cheek cell test kit
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I began a COMPLETE 'Gluten-free Casein-free' diet in Nov '05, due to:
"positive" for casein antibodies from Enterolab (in Feb '05)
and
"positive" for casein IgG (Elisa) via York Labs' finger-prick blood
test, Sept '05
and continued 'stomach pains,' although nothing compared to before
going gluten-free....
UPDATE: ALL remaining symptoms disappeared within weeks of going gluten-free&CF!
**********************
My PAST illnesses I believe are attributable to Untreated Celiac Disease:
Recurrent ear and throat infections in childhood
Frequent childhood stomach aches, underweight, picky eater
Tooth enamel problems/excessive cavities in childhood
Diagnosed in 20's with non-allergic rhinitis
Two spontaneous abortions (childless)
IBS diagnosis at age 28 (all better post going gluten-free and casein-free)
["Horrible" digestive problems from ages 32-47 - excess gas,
diarrhea gone post gluten-free!]
Reflux diagnosis at age 35 ('reflux' gone post gluten-free)
ADHD diagnosis at age 38 and at age 48 (not as bad with Gluten-free Casein-free diet)
Broke elbow in 2 places, age 39
Osteopenia diagnosed at age 44 (bone scan revealed thinning of spine -
taking Calcium and Vit D now)
Fibromyalgia diagnosis at age 40 (fatigue and pain all gone post gluten-free!)
Minor depression with anxiety diagnosed at age 42 (taking Paxil)
Skin cancer - squamous at age 43 and pre-melanoma at age 45
Adult acne (this, too, went away, but only after going dairy-free)
Topical dermatitis (so bad I needed steroid shots) diagnosed at age 46
(That's gone now, too!)
Excessive bruising of skin began at age 45:
I was told by derm doc AND family physician "That's just thin, aging
skin, nothing you can do about that" (GUESS WHAT?! ...NO unusual
bruising POST going gluten-free! I can now wear skirts and shorts
again!)
SO many years of being sick...
Hopefully, others will benefit from Science, and the increasing media
attention being given to Celiac Disease and gluten-based illnesses,
and will not have to go through what I, and others on here, have had
to go through.
or get busy dying."
From: The Shawshank Redemption
--------------------------------------------------------------
gluten-free since Jan 1 '05
Positive response to diet within days, felt 'alive again' within 2 weeks
Feb 22 '05:
Diagnosed "Celiac Sprue, and IBS" by a GI doc, Dr. David Lin of Danville, CA
via blood testing 53 days after I began the gluten-free diet on my own:
Test results at 53 days POST going gluten-free were:
Gliadin AB IgA = 29.9
Since 30+ = positive for Celiac Disease when ingesting gluten, my doc
diagnosed me with Celiac Sprue then and there.
Gliadin AB IgG was 5.6 at that point
-------------------------------------------
Endoscopy with biopsies, AND colonoscopy with biopsies were done,
only to rule out other possible GI problems (especially intestinal
lymphoma) - My doctor told me the results indicated "no current damage
found" - and that as long as I stay gluten-free, I don't need another
biopsy for ten years.
Follow-up blood testing was done about one year later, by the same
Gastro doc, in Nov '05:
Gliadin AB IgA =26, Gliadin AB IgG <1
Blood testing done again by him, 5 months later (March '06)
He then told me my tests results were back to normal, and "Keep up the
good work! You can't argue with success!" :-)
I now see him one time per year for routine testing to make sure I am
staying gluten-free.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADDTIONALLY:
I was also diagnosed as positive for antibodies and autoimmune
response to gliadin by Enterolab, via stool specimen taken 56 days
gluten-free
and I have one of the two genes that 'cause' Celiac Disease:
"HLA-DQ8," via Enterolabs cheek cell test kit
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I began a COMPLETE 'Gluten-free Casein-free' diet in Nov '05, due to:
"positive" for casein antibodies from Enterolab (in Feb '05)
and
"positive" for casein IgG (Elisa) via York Labs' finger-prick blood
test, Sept '05
and continued 'stomach pains,' although nothing compared to before
going gluten-free....
UPDATE: ALL remaining symptoms disappeared within weeks of going gluten-free&CF!
**********************
My PAST illnesses I believe are attributable to Untreated Celiac Disease:
Recurrent ear and throat infections in childhood
Frequent childhood stomach aches, underweight, picky eater
Tooth enamel problems/excessive cavities in childhood
Diagnosed in 20's with non-allergic rhinitis
Two spontaneous abortions (childless)
IBS diagnosis at age 28 (all better post going gluten-free and casein-free)
["Horrible" digestive problems from ages 32-47 - excess gas,
diarrhea gone post gluten-free!]
Reflux diagnosis at age 35 ('reflux' gone post gluten-free)
ADHD diagnosis at age 38 and at age 48 (not as bad with Gluten-free Casein-free diet)
Broke elbow in 2 places, age 39
Osteopenia diagnosed at age 44 (bone scan revealed thinning of spine -
taking Calcium and Vit D now)
Fibromyalgia diagnosis at age 40 (fatigue and pain all gone post gluten-free!)
Minor depression with anxiety diagnosed at age 42 (taking Paxil)
Skin cancer - squamous at age 43 and pre-melanoma at age 45
Adult acne (this, too, went away, but only after going dairy-free)
Topical dermatitis (so bad I needed steroid shots) diagnosed at age 46
(That's gone now, too!)
Excessive bruising of skin began at age 45:
I was told by derm doc AND family physician "That's just thin, aging
skin, nothing you can do about that" (GUESS WHAT?! ...NO unusual
bruising POST going gluten-free! I can now wear skirts and shorts
again!)
SO many years of being sick...
Hopefully, others will benefit from Science, and the increasing media
attention being given to Celiac Disease and gluten-based illnesses,
and will not have to go through what I, and others on here, have had
to go through.
#4
FaithInScienceToo
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 04:42 PM
All of the bare escentuals lip products are gluten free.
--------------------
Kaiti
Positive bloodwork
gluten-free since January 2004
Maryland
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Just wanted to make sure Kaiti's info got tagged onto this post.
G
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Kaiti
Positive bloodwork
gluten-free since January 2004
Maryland
-----------------
Just wanted to make sure Kaiti's info got tagged onto this post.
G
"Get busy living
or get busy dying."
From: The Shawshank Redemption
--------------------------------------------------------------
gluten-free since Jan 1 '05
Positive response to diet within days, felt 'alive again' within 2 weeks
Feb 22 '05:
Diagnosed "Celiac Sprue, and IBS" by a GI doc, Dr. David Lin of Danville, CA
via blood testing 53 days after I began the gluten-free diet on my own:
Test results at 53 days POST going gluten-free were:
Gliadin AB IgA = 29.9
Since 30+ = positive for Celiac Disease when ingesting gluten, my doc
diagnosed me with Celiac Sprue then and there.
Gliadin AB IgG was 5.6 at that point
-------------------------------------------
Endoscopy with biopsies, AND colonoscopy with biopsies were done,
only to rule out other possible GI problems (especially intestinal
lymphoma) - My doctor told me the results indicated "no current damage
found" - and that as long as I stay gluten-free, I don't need another
biopsy for ten years.
Follow-up blood testing was done about one year later, by the same
Gastro doc, in Nov '05:
Gliadin AB IgA =26, Gliadin AB IgG <1
Blood testing done again by him, 5 months later (March '06)
He then told me my tests results were back to normal, and "Keep up the
good work! You can't argue with success!" :-)
I now see him one time per year for routine testing to make sure I am
staying gluten-free.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADDTIONALLY:
I was also diagnosed as positive for antibodies and autoimmune
response to gliadin by Enterolab, via stool specimen taken 56 days
gluten-free
and I have one of the two genes that 'cause' Celiac Disease:
"HLA-DQ8," via Enterolabs cheek cell test kit
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I began a COMPLETE 'Gluten-free Casein-free' diet in Nov '05, due to:
"positive" for casein antibodies from Enterolab (in Feb '05)
and
"positive" for casein IgG (Elisa) via York Labs' finger-prick blood
test, Sept '05
and continued 'stomach pains,' although nothing compared to before
going gluten-free....
UPDATE: ALL remaining symptoms disappeared within weeks of going gluten-free&CF!
**********************
My PAST illnesses I believe are attributable to Untreated Celiac Disease:
Recurrent ear and throat infections in childhood
Frequent childhood stomach aches, underweight, picky eater
Tooth enamel problems/excessive cavities in childhood
Diagnosed in 20's with non-allergic rhinitis
Two spontaneous abortions (childless)
IBS diagnosis at age 28 (all better post going gluten-free and casein-free)
["Horrible" digestive problems from ages 32-47 - excess gas,
diarrhea gone post gluten-free!]
Reflux diagnosis at age 35 ('reflux' gone post gluten-free)
ADHD diagnosis at age 38 and at age 48 (not as bad with Gluten-free Casein-free diet)
Broke elbow in 2 places, age 39
Osteopenia diagnosed at age 44 (bone scan revealed thinning of spine -
taking Calcium and Vit D now)
Fibromyalgia diagnosis at age 40 (fatigue and pain all gone post gluten-free!)
Minor depression with anxiety diagnosed at age 42 (taking Paxil)
Skin cancer - squamous at age 43 and pre-melanoma at age 45
Adult acne (this, too, went away, but only after going dairy-free)
Topical dermatitis (so bad I needed steroid shots) diagnosed at age 46
(That's gone now, too!)
Excessive bruising of skin began at age 45:
I was told by derm doc AND family physician "That's just thin, aging
skin, nothing you can do about that" (GUESS WHAT?! ...NO unusual
bruising POST going gluten-free! I can now wear skirts and shorts
again!)
SO many years of being sick...
Hopefully, others will benefit from Science, and the increasing media
attention being given to Celiac Disease and gluten-based illnesses,
and will not have to go through what I, and others on here, have had
to go through.
or get busy dying."
From: The Shawshank Redemption
--------------------------------------------------------------
gluten-free since Jan 1 '05
Positive response to diet within days, felt 'alive again' within 2 weeks
Feb 22 '05:
Diagnosed "Celiac Sprue, and IBS" by a GI doc, Dr. David Lin of Danville, CA
via blood testing 53 days after I began the gluten-free diet on my own:
Test results at 53 days POST going gluten-free were:
Gliadin AB IgA = 29.9
Since 30+ = positive for Celiac Disease when ingesting gluten, my doc
diagnosed me with Celiac Sprue then and there.
Gliadin AB IgG was 5.6 at that point
-------------------------------------------
Endoscopy with biopsies, AND colonoscopy with biopsies were done,
only to rule out other possible GI problems (especially intestinal
lymphoma) - My doctor told me the results indicated "no current damage
found" - and that as long as I stay gluten-free, I don't need another
biopsy for ten years.
Follow-up blood testing was done about one year later, by the same
Gastro doc, in Nov '05:
Gliadin AB IgA =26, Gliadin AB IgG <1
Blood testing done again by him, 5 months later (March '06)
He then told me my tests results were back to normal, and "Keep up the
good work! You can't argue with success!" :-)
I now see him one time per year for routine testing to make sure I am
staying gluten-free.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADDTIONALLY:
I was also diagnosed as positive for antibodies and autoimmune
response to gliadin by Enterolab, via stool specimen taken 56 days
gluten-free
and I have one of the two genes that 'cause' Celiac Disease:
"HLA-DQ8," via Enterolabs cheek cell test kit
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I began a COMPLETE 'Gluten-free Casein-free' diet in Nov '05, due to:
"positive" for casein antibodies from Enterolab (in Feb '05)
and
"positive" for casein IgG (Elisa) via York Labs' finger-prick blood
test, Sept '05
and continued 'stomach pains,' although nothing compared to before
going gluten-free....
UPDATE: ALL remaining symptoms disappeared within weeks of going gluten-free&CF!
**********************
My PAST illnesses I believe are attributable to Untreated Celiac Disease:
Recurrent ear and throat infections in childhood
Frequent childhood stomach aches, underweight, picky eater
Tooth enamel problems/excessive cavities in childhood
Diagnosed in 20's with non-allergic rhinitis
Two spontaneous abortions (childless)
IBS diagnosis at age 28 (all better post going gluten-free and casein-free)
["Horrible" digestive problems from ages 32-47 - excess gas,
diarrhea gone post gluten-free!]
Reflux diagnosis at age 35 ('reflux' gone post gluten-free)
ADHD diagnosis at age 38 and at age 48 (not as bad with Gluten-free Casein-free diet)
Broke elbow in 2 places, age 39
Osteopenia diagnosed at age 44 (bone scan revealed thinning of spine -
taking Calcium and Vit D now)
Fibromyalgia diagnosis at age 40 (fatigue and pain all gone post gluten-free!)
Minor depression with anxiety diagnosed at age 42 (taking Paxil)
Skin cancer - squamous at age 43 and pre-melanoma at age 45
Adult acne (this, too, went away, but only after going dairy-free)
Topical dermatitis (so bad I needed steroid shots) diagnosed at age 46
(That's gone now, too!)
Excessive bruising of skin began at age 45:
I was told by derm doc AND family physician "That's just thin, aging
skin, nothing you can do about that" (GUESS WHAT?! ...NO unusual
bruising POST going gluten-free! I can now wear skirts and shorts
again!)
SO many years of being sick...
Hopefully, others will benefit from Science, and the increasing media
attention being given to Celiac Disease and gluten-based illnesses,
and will not have to go through what I, and others on here, have had
to go through.
#5
plantime
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 05:35 PM
Mary Kay lip products are gluten free. The creme lipstick has soy in it, though.
Dessa
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The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make His face shine upon you and be gracious to you." Numbers 6:24-25
#6
hthorvald
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 07:21 PM
Bobby Brown lipsticks and glosses (and makeup) are also gluten free. I contacted my representative and she checked herself. However, she did say that there are nut oils in their lip products, so if you're sensitive to nuts, you may want to be careful.
I've used Neutrogena and have just stuck with what works. However, all the information in this thread is very valuable. Thanks for compiling it.
H.
I've used Neutrogena and have just stuck with what works. However, all the information in this thread is very valuable. Thanks for compiling it.
H.
Helen Kendrick
Gluten free since 5/03/04
Gluten free since 5/03/04
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dreamhouses
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 08:24 PM
Great list - thanks! FYI the toll free for ECCO BELLA is (877)696-2220. They sent me their catalog with lots of gluten-free stuff. Love love love their lipstick. Dreamhouses
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Posted 17 February 2005 - 03:22 PM
Thanks - I just tossed 2 Revlon lip glosses.
Anyone know anything about Clinique or Estee Lauder lip products?
Gina
Anyone know anything about Clinique or Estee Lauder lip products?
Gina
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KaitiUSA
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Posted 17 February 2005 - 03:34 PM
Here is an email from them this might help you out 
Thank you for contacting us regarding the ingredients in our products that might be unsuitable for you to use because of your specific condition.
We are attaching a list of grain-derived ingredients, found on our labels, which will be helpful in providing you direction. This information covers products marketed under the following trademarks: Estée Lauder, Inc.; Clinique Laboratories, Inc.; Aramis, Inc.; Origins Natural Resources, Inc.; Bobbi Brown essentials; Tommy Hilfiger Toiletries, MAC, Stila, and Prescriptives, Inc.Consumers will find ingredient listings on our primary packaging material, in accordance with FDA regulations, using names which are standard throughout the cosmetic and fragrance industry. Because of the vast number of raw materials from different sources, it is not possible to guarantee that our products are completely free of any of the grains specified. The denatured ethyl alcohol in our products is produced synthetically, with the exception of the denatured ethyl alcohol in MAC products, which is derived from corn.
SOY DERIVED INGREDIENTS
GLYCINE SOJA (SOYBEAN) EXTRACT
GLYCINE SOJA (SOYBEAN) FLOUR
GLYCINE SOJA (SOYBEAN) OIL
GLYCINE SOJA (SOYBEAN) PROTEIN
HYDROGENATED LECITHIN
HYDROGENATED SOY GLYCERIDE
HYDROLYZED SOY PROTEIN
LECITHIN
MIXED SOY PHOSPHOLIPIDS
PEG-5 SOYA STEROL
PEG-10 SOYA STEROL
PEG-16 SOYA STEROL
PEG-25 SOYA STEROL
SOY PHOSPHOLIPIDS
SOY STEROL
SOYBEAN EXTRACT
SOYBEAN OIL
SOYBEAN PHOSPHOLIPIDS
SOYBEAN STEROL
TOCOPHEROL
TOCOPHERYL ACETATE
TOCOPHERYL LINOLEATE
BARLEY DERIVED INGREDIENTS
AMINO PEPTIDE COMPLEX
BARLEY EXTRACT
HORDEUM VULGARE (BARLEY) EXTRACT
PHYTOSPHINGOSINE EXTRACT
WHEAT DERIVED INGREDIENTS
AMP-ISOSTEAROYL HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN
DISODIUM WHEATGERMAMIDO PEG-2 SULFOSUCCINATE
HYDROLYZED WHEAT GLUTEN
HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN
HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN PG-PROPYL SILANETRIOL
HYDROLYZED WHEAT STARCH
HYDROXYPROPYLTRIMONIUM HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN STEARYLDIMONIUMHYDROXYPROPYL HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN WHEAT AMINO ACIDS WHEAT BRAN EXTRACT WHEAT GERM EXTRACT WHEAT GERM GLYCERIDES WHEAT GERM OIL WHEAT GERMAMIDOPROPYLDIMONIUM HYDROXYPROPYL HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN WHEAT PROTEIN WHEAT (TRITICUM VULGARE) BRAN EXTRACT TRITICUM VULGARE (WHEAT) FLOUR LIPIDS TRITICUM VULGARE (WHEAT) GERM EXTRACT TRITICUM VULGARE (WHEAT) GERM OIL
YEAST DERIVED INGREDIENTS
CERAMIDE 2
CERAMIDE 3
MAGNESIUM-COPPER-ZINC GLYCOPEPTIDES MAGNESIUM/IRON/ZINC/COPPER/SILICON/GLYCONUCLEOPEPTIDES
MAGNESIUM-SELENIUM-COPPER-ZINC GLYCOPEPTIDES SILICON-ZINC-COPPER-IRON-MAGNESIUM YEAST GLYCOPEPTIDES SACCHAROMYCES CALCIUM FERMENT EXTRACT SACCHAROMYCES/COPPER FERMENT SACCHAROMYCES EXTRACT SACCHAROMYCES LYSATE EXTRACT SACCHAROMYCES MAGNESIUM FERMENT EXTRACT SACCAROMYCES/MAGNESIUM FERMENT HYDROLYSATE SACCAROMYCES/POTASSIUM FERMENT HYDROLYSATE SACCHAROMYCES ZINC FERMENT EXTRACT YEAST EXTRACT YEAST PROTEIN
RYE DERIVED INGREDIENTS
NONE
OAT DERIVED INGREDIENTS
AVENA SATIVA (OAT) FLOUR
AVENA SATIVA (OAT) KERNEL PROTEIN
OAT (AVENA SATIVA) EXTRACT
OAT BETA GLUCAN
OAT EXTRACT
OAT FLOUR
SODIUM LAUROYL OAT AMINO ACIDS
SHEER LIPSTICK:
INGREDIENTS: RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) OIL [] TRIOCTYLDODECYL CITRATE [] GLYCERYL TRIACETYL HYDROXYSTEARATE [] EUPHORBIA CERIFERA (CANDELILLA) WAX [] OCTYLDODECANOL [] BUXUS CHINENSIS (JOJOBA) OIL [] SESAMUM INDICUM
(SESAME) OIL [] BEESWAX (CERA ALBA) [] OZOKERITE [] COPERNICIA CERIFERA
(CARNAUBA) WAX [] CETYL RICINOLEATE [] MICROCRYSTALLINE WAX (CERA
MICROCRISTALLINA) [] ASCORBYL PALMITATE [] TOCOPHEROL [] VANILLIN []
[+/-(MAY CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] CARMINE (CI 75470) [] BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE (CI
77163) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 6 LAKE (CI
15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 21 (CI 45380) [] RED 28 LAKE (CI
45410) [] RED 30 LAKE (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI 15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN20980>
Amplified Cream Lipstick
INGREDIENTS: RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) SEED OIL [] DIISOSTEARYL MALATE [] TRIOCTYLDODECYL CITRATE [] LANOLIN OIL [] CAPRYLIC/CAPRIC TRIGLYCERIDE [] EUPHORBIA CERIFERA (CANDELILLA) WAX [] OCTYLDODECANOL [] OZOKERITE [] SILICA [] POLYDECENE [] BIS-DIGLYCERYL POLYACYLADIPATE-2 [] POLYETHYLENE [] MICROCRYSTALLINE WAX (CERA MICROCRISTALLINA) [] TRITICUM VULGARE (WHEAT) GERM EXTRACT [] GLYCINE SOJA (SOYBEAN) SEED EXTRACT [] HORDEUM VULGARE EXTRACT [] ASTROCARYUM MURUMURU BUTTER [] TOCOPHERYL ACETATE [] SQUALANE [] CHOLESTEROL [] CERAMIDE 3 [] ALUMINA [] LINOLEIC ACID [] VANILLIN []
[+/-(MAY CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] CARMINE (CI 75470) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 28 (CI 45410) [] RED 30 (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI 15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN24107>
Cream Lipstick
INGREDIENTS: RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) SEED OIL [] TRIOCTYLDODECYL CITRATE [] GLYCERYL TRIACETYL HYDROXYSTEARATE [] EUPHORBIA CERIFERA (CANDELILLA) WAX [] OCTYLDODECANOL [] SIMMONDSIA CHINENSIS (JOJOBA) SEED OIL [] BEESWAX (CERA ALBA) [] SESAMUM INDICUM (SESAME) SEED OIL [] OZOKERITE [] COPERNICIA CERIFERA (CARNAUBA) WAX [] CETYL RICINOLEATE [] MICROCRYSTALLINE WAX (CERA
MICROCRISTALLINA) [] TOCOPHEROL [] ASCORBYL PALMITATE [] VANILLIN []
[+/-(MAY CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE (CI 77163) [] CARMINE (CI
75470) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 6 LAKE (CI
15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 21 (CI 45380) [] RED 21 LAKE (CI
45380) [] RED 28 LAKE (CI 45410) [] RED 30 LAKE (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI 15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN23512>
Frost Lipstick
INGREDIENTS: RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) SEED OIL [] TRIOCTYLDODECYL CITRATE [] GLYCERYL TRIACETYL HYDROXYSTEARATE [] SIMMONDSIA CHINENSIS (JOJOBA) SEED OIL [] EUPHORBIA CERIFERA (CANDELILLA) WAX [] OCTYLDODECANOL [] BEESWAX (CERA ALBA) [] TRICAPRYLIN [] OZOKERITE [] COPERNICIA CERIFERA (CARNAUBA) WAX [] CETYL RICINOLEATE [] MICROCRYSTALLINE WAX (CERA MICROCRISTALLINA) [] TOCOPHEROL [] ASCORBYL PALMITATE [] VANILLIN [] SILICA [] [+/-(MAY
CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE (CI 77163) [] CARMINE (CI 75470) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 6 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 21 (CI 45380) [] RED 28 LAKE (CI 45410) [] RED 30 LAKE (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI 15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN23412>
Glaze Lipstick
INGREDIENTS: RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) SEED OIL [] TRIOCTYLDODECYL CITRATE [] GLYCERYL TRIACETYL HYDROXYSTEARATE [] SIMMONDSIA CHINENSIS (JOJOBA) SEED OIL [] EUPHORBIA CERIFERA (CANDELILLA) WAX [] OCTYLDODECANOL [] TRICAPRYLIN [] BEESWAX (CERA ALBA) [] OZOKERITE [] PHENYL TRIMETHICONE [] HYDROGENATED POLYISOBUTENE [] COPERNICIA CERIFERA (CARNAUBA) WAX [] CETYL RICINOLEATE [] MICROCRYSTALLINE WAX (CERA MICROCRISTALLINA) [] TOCOPHEROL [] ASCORBYL PALMITATE [] SILICA [] VANILLIN [] [+/-(MAY CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE (CI 77163) [] CARMINE (CI 75470) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 6 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 21 (CI 45380) [] RED 21 LAKE (CI 45380) [] RED 28 LAKE (CI 45410) [] RED 30 LAKE (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI 15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN23509>
Lustre Lipstick
INGREDIENTS: RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) SEED OIL [] EUPHORBIA CERIFERA
(CANDELILLA) WAX [] CAPRYLIC/CAPRIC TRIGLYCERIDE [] PVP/HEXADECENE COPOLYMER [] DIPENTAERYTHRITYL HEXAHYDROXYSTEARATE/STEARATE/ROSINATE [] OCTYL METHOXYCINNAMATE [] CETYL ACETATE [] POLYETHYLENE [] LANOLIN OIL [] CETYL LACTATE [] BUTYROSPERMUM PARKII (SHEA BUTTER) FRUIT [] POLYDECENE [] BEESWAX (CERA ALBA) [] ACETYLATED LANOLIN ALCOHOL [] SYNTHETIC BEESWAX [] GLYCINE SOJA (SOYBEAN) SEED EXTRACT [] TOCOPHERYL ACETATE [] ASCORBYL PALMITATE [] SYNTHETIC WAX [] CERAMIDE 3 [] CETYL ALCOHOL [] VANILLIN []
[+/-(MAY CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE (CI 77163) [] CARMINE (CI
75470) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 6 LAKE (CI
15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 21 (CI 45380) [] RED 28 LAKE (CI
45410) [] RED 30 LAKE (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI 15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN23056>
Matte Lipstick
INGREDIENTS: OCTYLDODECANOL [] RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) SEED OIL [] SILICA [] TRICAPRYLYL CITRATE [] OZOKERITE [] ISONONYL ISONONANOATE [] PARAFFIN [] PHENYL TRIMETHICONE [] MICROCRYSTALLINE WAX (CERA MICROCRISTALLINA) [] OCTYL PALMITATE [] CAPRYLIC/CAPRIC TRIGLYCERIDE [] COPERNICIA CERIFERA
(CARNAUBA) WAX [] ASCORBYL PALMITATE [] TOCOPHEROL [] VANILLIN [] ACRYLATES COPOLYMER [] POLYETHYLENE TEREPHTHALATE [] STEARYL STEAROYL STEARATE []
[+/-(MAY CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] CARMINE (CI 75470) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 6 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 21 LAKE (CI 45380) [] RED 28 LAKE (CI 45410) [] RED 30 LAKE (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI
15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN23468>
Satin Lipstick
INGREDIENTS: RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) SEED OIL [] TRIOCTYLDODECYL CITRATE [] GLYCERYL TRIACETYL HYDROXYSTEARATE [] EUPHORBIA CERIFERA (CANDELILLA) WAX [] OCTYLDODECANOL [] SILICA [] SIMMONDSIA CHINENSIS (JOJOBA) SEED OIL [] BEESWAX (CERA ALBA) [] SESAMUM INDICUM (SESAME) SEED OIL [] OZOKERITE [] COPERNICIA CERIFERA (CARNAUBA) WAX [] CETYL RICINOLEATE [] MICROCRYSTALLINE WAX (CERA MICROCRISTALLINA) [] TOCOPHEROL [] ASCORBYL PALMITATE [] VANILLIN [] [+/-(MAY CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE (CI 77163) [] CARMINE (CI 75470) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 6 LAKE (CI
15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 21 (CI 45380) [] RED 21 LAKE (CI
45380) [] RED 28 LAKE (CI 45410) [] RED 30 LAKE (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI 15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN23512>
We trust that this information is helpful to you and are glad to have been of assistance.
Sincerely,
Jessica Conti
Global Consumer Communications
Thank you for contacting us regarding the ingredients in our products that might be unsuitable for you to use because of your specific condition.
We are attaching a list of grain-derived ingredients, found on our labels, which will be helpful in providing you direction. This information covers products marketed under the following trademarks: Estée Lauder, Inc.; Clinique Laboratories, Inc.; Aramis, Inc.; Origins Natural Resources, Inc.; Bobbi Brown essentials; Tommy Hilfiger Toiletries, MAC, Stila, and Prescriptives, Inc.Consumers will find ingredient listings on our primary packaging material, in accordance with FDA regulations, using names which are standard throughout the cosmetic and fragrance industry. Because of the vast number of raw materials from different sources, it is not possible to guarantee that our products are completely free of any of the grains specified. The denatured ethyl alcohol in our products is produced synthetically, with the exception of the denatured ethyl alcohol in MAC products, which is derived from corn.
SOY DERIVED INGREDIENTS
GLYCINE SOJA (SOYBEAN) EXTRACT
GLYCINE SOJA (SOYBEAN) FLOUR
GLYCINE SOJA (SOYBEAN) OIL
GLYCINE SOJA (SOYBEAN) PROTEIN
HYDROGENATED LECITHIN
HYDROGENATED SOY GLYCERIDE
HYDROLYZED SOY PROTEIN
LECITHIN
MIXED SOY PHOSPHOLIPIDS
PEG-5 SOYA STEROL
PEG-10 SOYA STEROL
PEG-16 SOYA STEROL
PEG-25 SOYA STEROL
SOY PHOSPHOLIPIDS
SOY STEROL
SOYBEAN EXTRACT
SOYBEAN OIL
SOYBEAN PHOSPHOLIPIDS
SOYBEAN STEROL
TOCOPHEROL
TOCOPHERYL ACETATE
TOCOPHERYL LINOLEATE
BARLEY DERIVED INGREDIENTS
AMINO PEPTIDE COMPLEX
BARLEY EXTRACT
HORDEUM VULGARE (BARLEY) EXTRACT
PHYTOSPHINGOSINE EXTRACT
WHEAT DERIVED INGREDIENTS
AMP-ISOSTEAROYL HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN
DISODIUM WHEATGERMAMIDO PEG-2 SULFOSUCCINATE
HYDROLYZED WHEAT GLUTEN
HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN
HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN PG-PROPYL SILANETRIOL
HYDROLYZED WHEAT STARCH
HYDROXYPROPYLTRIMONIUM HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN STEARYLDIMONIUMHYDROXYPROPYL HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN WHEAT AMINO ACIDS WHEAT BRAN EXTRACT WHEAT GERM EXTRACT WHEAT GERM GLYCERIDES WHEAT GERM OIL WHEAT GERMAMIDOPROPYLDIMONIUM HYDROXYPROPYL HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN WHEAT PROTEIN WHEAT (TRITICUM VULGARE) BRAN EXTRACT TRITICUM VULGARE (WHEAT) FLOUR LIPIDS TRITICUM VULGARE (WHEAT) GERM EXTRACT TRITICUM VULGARE (WHEAT) GERM OIL
YEAST DERIVED INGREDIENTS
CERAMIDE 2
CERAMIDE 3
MAGNESIUM-COPPER-ZINC GLYCOPEPTIDES MAGNESIUM/IRON/ZINC/COPPER/SILICON/GLYCONUCLEOPEPTIDES
MAGNESIUM-SELENIUM-COPPER-ZINC GLYCOPEPTIDES SILICON-ZINC-COPPER-IRON-MAGNESIUM YEAST GLYCOPEPTIDES SACCHAROMYCES CALCIUM FERMENT EXTRACT SACCHAROMYCES/COPPER FERMENT SACCHAROMYCES EXTRACT SACCHAROMYCES LYSATE EXTRACT SACCHAROMYCES MAGNESIUM FERMENT EXTRACT SACCAROMYCES/MAGNESIUM FERMENT HYDROLYSATE SACCAROMYCES/POTASSIUM FERMENT HYDROLYSATE SACCHAROMYCES ZINC FERMENT EXTRACT YEAST EXTRACT YEAST PROTEIN
RYE DERIVED INGREDIENTS
NONE
OAT DERIVED INGREDIENTS
AVENA SATIVA (OAT) FLOUR
AVENA SATIVA (OAT) KERNEL PROTEIN
OAT (AVENA SATIVA) EXTRACT
OAT BETA GLUCAN
OAT EXTRACT
OAT FLOUR
SODIUM LAUROYL OAT AMINO ACIDS
SHEER LIPSTICK:
INGREDIENTS: RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) OIL [] TRIOCTYLDODECYL CITRATE [] GLYCERYL TRIACETYL HYDROXYSTEARATE [] EUPHORBIA CERIFERA (CANDELILLA) WAX [] OCTYLDODECANOL [] BUXUS CHINENSIS (JOJOBA) OIL [] SESAMUM INDICUM
(SESAME) OIL [] BEESWAX (CERA ALBA) [] OZOKERITE [] COPERNICIA CERIFERA
(CARNAUBA) WAX [] CETYL RICINOLEATE [] MICROCRYSTALLINE WAX (CERA
MICROCRISTALLINA) [] ASCORBYL PALMITATE [] TOCOPHEROL [] VANILLIN []
[+/-(MAY CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] CARMINE (CI 75470) [] BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE (CI
77163) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 6 LAKE (CI
15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 21 (CI 45380) [] RED 28 LAKE (CI
45410) [] RED 30 LAKE (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI 15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN20980>
Amplified Cream Lipstick
INGREDIENTS: RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) SEED OIL [] DIISOSTEARYL MALATE [] TRIOCTYLDODECYL CITRATE [] LANOLIN OIL [] CAPRYLIC/CAPRIC TRIGLYCERIDE [] EUPHORBIA CERIFERA (CANDELILLA) WAX [] OCTYLDODECANOL [] OZOKERITE [] SILICA [] POLYDECENE [] BIS-DIGLYCERYL POLYACYLADIPATE-2 [] POLYETHYLENE [] MICROCRYSTALLINE WAX (CERA MICROCRISTALLINA) [] TRITICUM VULGARE (WHEAT) GERM EXTRACT [] GLYCINE SOJA (SOYBEAN) SEED EXTRACT [] HORDEUM VULGARE EXTRACT [] ASTROCARYUM MURUMURU BUTTER [] TOCOPHERYL ACETATE [] SQUALANE [] CHOLESTEROL [] CERAMIDE 3 [] ALUMINA [] LINOLEIC ACID [] VANILLIN []
[+/-(MAY CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] CARMINE (CI 75470) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 28 (CI 45410) [] RED 30 (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI 15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN24107>
Cream Lipstick
INGREDIENTS: RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) SEED OIL [] TRIOCTYLDODECYL CITRATE [] GLYCERYL TRIACETYL HYDROXYSTEARATE [] EUPHORBIA CERIFERA (CANDELILLA) WAX [] OCTYLDODECANOL [] SIMMONDSIA CHINENSIS (JOJOBA) SEED OIL [] BEESWAX (CERA ALBA) [] SESAMUM INDICUM (SESAME) SEED OIL [] OZOKERITE [] COPERNICIA CERIFERA (CARNAUBA) WAX [] CETYL RICINOLEATE [] MICROCRYSTALLINE WAX (CERA
MICROCRISTALLINA) [] TOCOPHEROL [] ASCORBYL PALMITATE [] VANILLIN []
[+/-(MAY CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE (CI 77163) [] CARMINE (CI
75470) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 6 LAKE (CI
15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 21 (CI 45380) [] RED 21 LAKE (CI
45380) [] RED 28 LAKE (CI 45410) [] RED 30 LAKE (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI 15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN23512>
Frost Lipstick
INGREDIENTS: RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) SEED OIL [] TRIOCTYLDODECYL CITRATE [] GLYCERYL TRIACETYL HYDROXYSTEARATE [] SIMMONDSIA CHINENSIS (JOJOBA) SEED OIL [] EUPHORBIA CERIFERA (CANDELILLA) WAX [] OCTYLDODECANOL [] BEESWAX (CERA ALBA) [] TRICAPRYLIN [] OZOKERITE [] COPERNICIA CERIFERA (CARNAUBA) WAX [] CETYL RICINOLEATE [] MICROCRYSTALLINE WAX (CERA MICROCRISTALLINA) [] TOCOPHEROL [] ASCORBYL PALMITATE [] VANILLIN [] SILICA [] [+/-(MAY
CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE (CI 77163) [] CARMINE (CI 75470) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 6 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 21 (CI 45380) [] RED 28 LAKE (CI 45410) [] RED 30 LAKE (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI 15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN23412>
Glaze Lipstick
INGREDIENTS: RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) SEED OIL [] TRIOCTYLDODECYL CITRATE [] GLYCERYL TRIACETYL HYDROXYSTEARATE [] SIMMONDSIA CHINENSIS (JOJOBA) SEED OIL [] EUPHORBIA CERIFERA (CANDELILLA) WAX [] OCTYLDODECANOL [] TRICAPRYLIN [] BEESWAX (CERA ALBA) [] OZOKERITE [] PHENYL TRIMETHICONE [] HYDROGENATED POLYISOBUTENE [] COPERNICIA CERIFERA (CARNAUBA) WAX [] CETYL RICINOLEATE [] MICROCRYSTALLINE WAX (CERA MICROCRISTALLINA) [] TOCOPHEROL [] ASCORBYL PALMITATE [] SILICA [] VANILLIN [] [+/-(MAY CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE (CI 77163) [] CARMINE (CI 75470) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 6 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 21 (CI 45380) [] RED 21 LAKE (CI 45380) [] RED 28 LAKE (CI 45410) [] RED 30 LAKE (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI 15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN23509>
Lustre Lipstick
INGREDIENTS: RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) SEED OIL [] EUPHORBIA CERIFERA
(CANDELILLA) WAX [] CAPRYLIC/CAPRIC TRIGLYCERIDE [] PVP/HEXADECENE COPOLYMER [] DIPENTAERYTHRITYL HEXAHYDROXYSTEARATE/STEARATE/ROSINATE [] OCTYL METHOXYCINNAMATE [] CETYL ACETATE [] POLYETHYLENE [] LANOLIN OIL [] CETYL LACTATE [] BUTYROSPERMUM PARKII (SHEA BUTTER) FRUIT [] POLYDECENE [] BEESWAX (CERA ALBA) [] ACETYLATED LANOLIN ALCOHOL [] SYNTHETIC BEESWAX [] GLYCINE SOJA (SOYBEAN) SEED EXTRACT [] TOCOPHERYL ACETATE [] ASCORBYL PALMITATE [] SYNTHETIC WAX [] CERAMIDE 3 [] CETYL ALCOHOL [] VANILLIN []
[+/-(MAY CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE (CI 77163) [] CARMINE (CI
75470) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 6 LAKE (CI
15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 21 (CI 45380) [] RED 28 LAKE (CI
45410) [] RED 30 LAKE (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI 15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN23056>
Matte Lipstick
INGREDIENTS: OCTYLDODECANOL [] RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) SEED OIL [] SILICA [] TRICAPRYLYL CITRATE [] OZOKERITE [] ISONONYL ISONONANOATE [] PARAFFIN [] PHENYL TRIMETHICONE [] MICROCRYSTALLINE WAX (CERA MICROCRISTALLINA) [] OCTYL PALMITATE [] CAPRYLIC/CAPRIC TRIGLYCERIDE [] COPERNICIA CERIFERA
(CARNAUBA) WAX [] ASCORBYL PALMITATE [] TOCOPHEROL [] VANILLIN [] ACRYLATES COPOLYMER [] POLYETHYLENE TEREPHTHALATE [] STEARYL STEAROYL STEARATE []
[+/-(MAY CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] CARMINE (CI 75470) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 6 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 21 LAKE (CI 45380) [] RED 28 LAKE (CI 45410) [] RED 30 LAKE (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI
15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN23468>
Satin Lipstick
INGREDIENTS: RICINUS COMMUNIS (CASTOR) SEED OIL [] TRIOCTYLDODECYL CITRATE [] GLYCERYL TRIACETYL HYDROXYSTEARATE [] EUPHORBIA CERIFERA (CANDELILLA) WAX [] OCTYLDODECANOL [] SILICA [] SIMMONDSIA CHINENSIS (JOJOBA) SEED OIL [] BEESWAX (CERA ALBA) [] SESAMUM INDICUM (SESAME) SEED OIL [] OZOKERITE [] COPERNICIA CERIFERA (CARNAUBA) WAX [] CETYL RICINOLEATE [] MICROCRYSTALLINE WAX (CERA MICROCRISTALLINA) [] TOCOPHEROL [] ASCORBYL PALMITATE [] VANILLIN [] [+/-(MAY CONTAIN) MICA [] TITANIUM DIOXIDE (CI 77891) [] IRON OXIDES (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499) [] BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE (CI 77163) [] CARMINE (CI 75470) [] BLUE 1 LAKE (CI 42090) [] RED 6 (CI 15850) [] RED 6 LAKE (CI
15850) [] RED 7 LAKE (CI 15850) [] RED 21 (CI 45380) [] RED 21 LAKE (CI
45380) [] RED 28 LAKE (CI 45410) [] RED 30 LAKE (CI 73360) [] RED 33 LAKE (CI 17200) [] YELLOW 5 LAKE (CI 19140) [] YELLOW 6 LAKE (CI 15985) [] YELLOW 10 LAKE (CI 47005)] <ILN23512>
We trust that this information is helpful to you and are glad to have been of assistance.
Sincerely,
Jessica Conti
Global Consumer Communications
Kaiti
Positive bloodwork
Gluten-free since January 2004
Arkansas
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Positive bloodwork
Gluten-free since January 2004
Arkansas
Jeremiah 29:11- "For I know the plans that I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for you to prosper and not harm you,plans to give you a hope and future"
"One Nation, Under God"
Feel free to email me anytime....jkbrodbent@yahoo.com
#11 Guest_Addicted2Gluten_*
Posted 18 March 2005 - 06:40 PM
Clinique and Estee Lauder products contain gluten. I finally checked with the companies after I was getting severe headaches and celiac-related symptoms when using them. MAC cosmetics and Chanel products are both gluten free.
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Posted 21 March 2005 - 11:25 PM
MANY THANKS TO THOSE WHO SHARED THEIR INFO...
Let's see...
Food...check....
Lip products...check...
Toothpastes...check...
Anything I need to be sure is gluten-free?
hope not...
Love to all, Gina
PS - I had my FIRST mini-break-down over the past 2 days...I didn't want to remember I have Celiac's Disease...didn't want to eat, even...
I am back to normal today...and back to being SO grateful to have found out what was 'wrong' with me...AND SO grateful for all of you...
Let's see...
Food...check....
Lip products...check...
Toothpastes...check...
Anything I need to be sure is gluten-free?
hope not...
Love to all, Gina
PS - I had my FIRST mini-break-down over the past 2 days...I didn't want to remember I have Celiac's Disease...didn't want to eat, even...
I am back to normal today...and back to being SO grateful to have found out what was 'wrong' with me...AND SO grateful for all of you...
"Get busy living
or get busy dying."
From: The Shawshank Redemption
--------------------------------------------------------------
gluten-free since Jan 1 '05
Positive response to diet within days, felt 'alive again' within 2 weeks
Feb 22 '05:
Diagnosed "Celiac Sprue, and IBS" by a GI doc, Dr. David Lin of Danville, CA
via blood testing 53 days after I began the gluten-free diet on my own:
Test results at 53 days POST going gluten-free were:
Gliadin AB IgA = 29.9
Since 30+ = positive for Celiac Disease when ingesting gluten, my doc
diagnosed me with Celiac Sprue then and there.
Gliadin AB IgG was 5.6 at that point
-------------------------------------------
Endoscopy with biopsies, AND colonoscopy with biopsies were done,
only to rule out other possible GI problems (especially intestinal
lymphoma) - My doctor told me the results indicated "no current damage
found" - and that as long as I stay gluten-free, I don't need another
biopsy for ten years.
Follow-up blood testing was done about one year later, by the same
Gastro doc, in Nov '05:
Gliadin AB IgA =26, Gliadin AB IgG <1
Blood testing done again by him, 5 months later (March '06)
He then told me my tests results were back to normal, and "Keep up the
good work! You can't argue with success!" :-)
I now see him one time per year for routine testing to make sure I am
staying gluten-free.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADDTIONALLY:
I was also diagnosed as positive for antibodies and autoimmune
response to gliadin by Enterolab, via stool specimen taken 56 days
gluten-free
and I have one of the two genes that 'cause' Celiac Disease:
"HLA-DQ8," via Enterolabs cheek cell test kit
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I began a COMPLETE 'Gluten-free Casein-free' diet in Nov '05, due to:
"positive" for casein antibodies from Enterolab (in Feb '05)
and
"positive" for casein IgG (Elisa) via York Labs' finger-prick blood
test, Sept '05
and continued 'stomach pains,' although nothing compared to before
going gluten-free....
UPDATE: ALL remaining symptoms disappeared within weeks of going gluten-free&CF!
**********************
My PAST illnesses I believe are attributable to Untreated Celiac Disease:
Recurrent ear and throat infections in childhood
Frequent childhood stomach aches, underweight, picky eater
Tooth enamel problems/excessive cavities in childhood
Diagnosed in 20's with non-allergic rhinitis
Two spontaneous abortions (childless)
IBS diagnosis at age 28 (all better post going gluten-free and casein-free)
["Horrible" digestive problems from ages 32-47 - excess gas,
diarrhea gone post gluten-free!]
Reflux diagnosis at age 35 ('reflux' gone post gluten-free)
ADHD diagnosis at age 38 and at age 48 (not as bad with Gluten-free Casein-free diet)
Broke elbow in 2 places, age 39
Osteopenia diagnosed at age 44 (bone scan revealed thinning of spine -
taking Calcium and Vit D now)
Fibromyalgia diagnosis at age 40 (fatigue and pain all gone post gluten-free!)
Minor depression with anxiety diagnosed at age 42 (taking Paxil)
Skin cancer - squamous at age 43 and pre-melanoma at age 45
Adult acne (this, too, went away, but only after going dairy-free)
Topical dermatitis (so bad I needed steroid shots) diagnosed at age 46
(That's gone now, too!)
Excessive bruising of skin began at age 45:
I was told by derm doc AND family physician "That's just thin, aging
skin, nothing you can do about that" (GUESS WHAT?! ...NO unusual
bruising POST going gluten-free! I can now wear skirts and shorts
again!)
SO many years of being sick...
Hopefully, others will benefit from Science, and the increasing media
attention being given to Celiac Disease and gluten-based illnesses,
and will not have to go through what I, and others on here, have had
to go through.
or get busy dying."
From: The Shawshank Redemption
--------------------------------------------------------------
gluten-free since Jan 1 '05
Positive response to diet within days, felt 'alive again' within 2 weeks
Feb 22 '05:
Diagnosed "Celiac Sprue, and IBS" by a GI doc, Dr. David Lin of Danville, CA
via blood testing 53 days after I began the gluten-free diet on my own:
Test results at 53 days POST going gluten-free were:
Gliadin AB IgA = 29.9
Since 30+ = positive for Celiac Disease when ingesting gluten, my doc
diagnosed me with Celiac Sprue then and there.
Gliadin AB IgG was 5.6 at that point
-------------------------------------------
Endoscopy with biopsies, AND colonoscopy with biopsies were done,
only to rule out other possible GI problems (especially intestinal
lymphoma) - My doctor told me the results indicated "no current damage
found" - and that as long as I stay gluten-free, I don't need another
biopsy for ten years.
Follow-up blood testing was done about one year later, by the same
Gastro doc, in Nov '05:
Gliadin AB IgA =26, Gliadin AB IgG <1
Blood testing done again by him, 5 months later (March '06)
He then told me my tests results were back to normal, and "Keep up the
good work! You can't argue with success!" :-)
I now see him one time per year for routine testing to make sure I am
staying gluten-free.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADDTIONALLY:
I was also diagnosed as positive for antibodies and autoimmune
response to gliadin by Enterolab, via stool specimen taken 56 days
gluten-free
and I have one of the two genes that 'cause' Celiac Disease:
"HLA-DQ8," via Enterolabs cheek cell test kit
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I began a COMPLETE 'Gluten-free Casein-free' diet in Nov '05, due to:
"positive" for casein antibodies from Enterolab (in Feb '05)
and
"positive" for casein IgG (Elisa) via York Labs' finger-prick blood
test, Sept '05
and continued 'stomach pains,' although nothing compared to before
going gluten-free....
UPDATE: ALL remaining symptoms disappeared within weeks of going gluten-free&CF!
**********************
My PAST illnesses I believe are attributable to Untreated Celiac Disease:
Recurrent ear and throat infections in childhood
Frequent childhood stomach aches, underweight, picky eater
Tooth enamel problems/excessive cavities in childhood
Diagnosed in 20's with non-allergic rhinitis
Two spontaneous abortions (childless)
IBS diagnosis at age 28 (all better post going gluten-free and casein-free)
["Horrible" digestive problems from ages 32-47 - excess gas,
diarrhea gone post gluten-free!]
Reflux diagnosis at age 35 ('reflux' gone post gluten-free)
ADHD diagnosis at age 38 and at age 48 (not as bad with Gluten-free Casein-free diet)
Broke elbow in 2 places, age 39
Osteopenia diagnosed at age 44 (bone scan revealed thinning of spine -
taking Calcium and Vit D now)
Fibromyalgia diagnosis at age 40 (fatigue and pain all gone post gluten-free!)
Minor depression with anxiety diagnosed at age 42 (taking Paxil)
Skin cancer - squamous at age 43 and pre-melanoma at age 45
Adult acne (this, too, went away, but only after going dairy-free)
Topical dermatitis (so bad I needed steroid shots) diagnosed at age 46
(That's gone now, too!)
Excessive bruising of skin began at age 45:
I was told by derm doc AND family physician "That's just thin, aging
skin, nothing you can do about that" (GUESS WHAT?! ...NO unusual
bruising POST going gluten-free! I can now wear skirts and shorts
again!)
SO many years of being sick...
Hopefully, others will benefit from Science, and the increasing media
attention being given to Celiac Disease and gluten-based illnesses,
and will not have to go through what I, and others on here, have had
to go through.
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