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How Much Gluten Is In Whole Wheat Bread?


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#1 Melissa394

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 04:33 PM

It dawned on me today; my son's symptoms really started up the 2nd day of Kindergarten. He's a picky eater so takes his lunch. His lunch has been P&J sandwiches pretty much daily. This summer, he ate a much varied diet; some days he would have wheat bread (cinnamon toast), sandwich, etc. other days none. My son LOVES fresh fruit so usually he doesn't eat a lot of carbs outside of chicken nuggets or candy.

Is something like whole wheat bread the worst food someone with celiac could eat? If my son is diagnosed with this, I'll definately need a copy of the Celiac Diet for Dummies book. To think my original college major was nutrition :o .
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 04:43 PM

i have no scientific answer for you but i can tell you that i had a near immediate reaction one day (before i was diagnosed) to the turkey sandwich on RYE bread that i had for lunch. compared to my usual PBJ on white, which usually took at least an hour to get me running for the bathroom. coincidence? who knows? ironic? kinda.

now i don't know which bread has more "gluten" but it seemed like i was way more sensitive to rye than plain white bread. i never ate wheat bread so i wouldn't know to compare that.

does anyone in your family have celiac disease? the best thing you can do is keep feeding him "regular" foods and get him tested. the tests will be inaccurate if he stops consuming gluten. Make sure the doctor runs a full celiac panel. i don't know exactly what to ask for but i'm sure someone will chime in.
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 04:46 PM

Any bread containing wheat, rye, barley is going to have too much gluten for someone sensitive to it.
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 05:07 PM

It dawned on me today; my son's symptoms really started up the 2nd day of Kindergarten. He's a picky eater so takes his lunch. His lunch has been P&J sandwiches pretty much daily. This summer, he ate a much varied diet; some days he would have wheat bread (cinnamon toast), sandwich, etc. other days none. My son LOVES fresh fruit so usually he doesn't eat a lot of carbs outside of chicken nuggets or candy.

Is something like whole wheat bread the worst food someone with celiac could eat? If my son is diagnosed with this, I'll definately need a copy of the Celiac Diet for Dummies book. To think my original college major was nutrition :o .


The following is just my opinion. Take from it what you like, or not.

This is the Celiac.com forum. Not the joke question forum. Celiacs can't eat wheat bread. Whole wheat bread. White wheat bread. Any kind of bread containing wheat flour. It's not a matter of how much gluten. All kinds of non gluten-free bread have the same amount of gluten. Too much. Any amount of gluten is prohibited.

You need to do some research on Celiac disease if you suspect your son has Celiac disease. This site has all the info you need. Check out the Celiac disease info link at the top of the page.

First off, don't put him on a gluten-free diet until he is tested. Then get him tested. Real tests. From a knowledgeable gastroenterologist. Not some quack. That usually involves blood tests, then an endoscopy. From the biopsies a definitive diagnosis can usually be made. To be put on a strict gluten-free diet for life requires ironclad evidence.

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 05:33 PM

Umm, I don't think she's being funny or facetious. I think she's asking a real question. As far as I know, gluten isn't measured like carbs or protein. There aren't any gram counts or anything. I guess for scientific purposes they measure-like parts per million. But you won't find it on any gluten containing product. Some products contain more than others I'm sure because I use to ADD GLUTEN to some of the breads I baked before I was diagnosed. :rolleyes:

I see you are waiting to find out if your son is diagnosed. There is alot to learn but you can do it.
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 05:53 PM

larry mac . . . Melissa isn't trying to be funny . . . I was reading her other thread. She's in the middle of testing and just trying to figure out why her son's symptoms are worse on Fridays. An accumulation of bread from his school lunches?? I haven't heard of that . . . although, I will say that both of my children had intolerances to food dyes and that did seem to "accumulate" but it was over a short (24 hour?) period of time. If my son had a little red dye here and there, no big deal. However, if he had a lot of red dye within a day's time he would get a rash. It happened when he was on medication . . . red tylenol every 4 hours with red liquid sudafed every four hours with red cough syrup blah, blah, blah. Now I buy dye-free (it tastes the same).

It does beg the question . . . is there something different about his lunch on Fridays? . . . some special treat at school on Fridays?
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 05:59 PM

It dawned on me today; my son's symptoms really started up the 2nd day of Kindergarten. He's a picky eater so takes his lunch. His lunch has been P&J sandwiches pretty much daily. This summer, he ate a much varied diet; some days he would have wheat bread (cinnamon toast), sandwich, etc. other days none. My son LOVES fresh fruit so usually he doesn't eat a lot of carbs outside of chicken nuggets or candy.

Is something like whole wheat bread the worst food someone with celiac could eat? If my son is diagnosed with this, I'll definately need a copy of the Celiac Diet for Dummies book. To think my original college major was nutrition :o .


Hi Melissa,

So I think from your post that you are just figuring out that your son may have gluten issues. Is your son in the process of being formally tested and diagnosed? If so, then wheat bread might be the best thing to feed him until his testing is complete. If your instinct turns out to be true you'll find plenty of great info and support here.

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 06:05 PM

BTW - Here's the answer for the original question of How much gluten is in whole wheat bread. You may have to do some math though :)

http://www.celiac.co...ents/Page1.html
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 07:33 AM

So I think from your post that you are just figuring out that your son may have gluten issues. Is your son in the process of being formally tested and diagnosed? If so, then wheat bread might be the best thing to feed him until his testing is complete. If your instinct turns out to be true you'll find plenty of great info and support here.


They did a blood test while he was in the hospital (the best children's hospital in Austin); we are waiting on those results.

First off, don't put him on a gluten-free diet until he is tested. Then get him tested. Real tests. From a knowledgeable gastroenterologist. Not some quack. That usually involves blood tests, then an endoscopy. From the biopsies a definitive diagnosis can usually be made. To be put on a strict gluten-free diet for life requires ironclad evidence.


He's being treated by a pediatric gastro doc; from what I've researched he's listed in the "America Best Doctors" book. I am fully aware that he'll need a biopsy to confirm the diagnosis if the test results show Celiac as a possibility.

larry mac . . . Melissa isn't trying to be funny . . . I was reading her other thread. She's in the middle of testing and just trying to figure out why her son's symptoms are worse on Fridays.



Exactly-- I am trying to figure out the trigger. I was instructed not to change his diet but I did remove him from lactose because I think his intestines need time to heal. We do NOT know what is causing his symptoms but based upon his tiny/short stature, slow weight gain, distended belly, and current symptoms the pediatric gastro doc suspects Celiac. I do NOT like seeing my child suffer from tummy aches. He spent most of the day with a warm compress on his belly. He has diarrhea that is getting worse (loose stools to water diarrhea). While we are waiting on test results, I'm trying to figure out what he can eat that will keep him from being so ill (thus the question about wheat bread and gluten). I don't want him to end up back in the hospital due to dehydration.

I have already started researching Celiac so that I'm prepared to ask questions and prepared to take action if he is diagnosed. This forum was given to me as a referral from another parent of a Celiac child. I apologize if my question has come across as "joking".

Janet, I'll check out the link--- thanks!
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 08:29 AM

I didnt take it as a joke at all. Not everyone understands food. Some dont even know what gluten is. Why would you if you were not a baker or a celiac?? You just eat food if you have no problems. Until I went gluten-free, I didnt know what manioc was. And I have a Phd in Holistic Nutrition. Lack of knowledge does not make a person any less intelligent, nor does it mean they are joking when they ask a question. I read it as her just seeking knowledge.

I sure hope you figure out what it is soon. :(
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 08:34 AM

Melissa,

Unfortunately, sometimes people on this board act in less than supportive ways. Your post did not come across as joking.

When you get in your sons results (bloodwork), ask for a copy. Post the Celiac tests performed, the result, and the reference range.

Let us know what we can do to help. Even if the tests are negative, and your doctors look for other issues, it may be worth it to do a gluten free 'trial' and see if it helps alleviate his symptoms.

Good luck, and I hope you find the much needed answers you need.
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 01:10 PM

When you get in your sons results (bloodwork), ask for a copy. Post the Celiac tests performed, the result, and the reference range.

Let us know what we can do to help. Even if the tests are negative, and your doctors look for other issues, it may be worth it to do a gluten free 'trial' and see if it helps alleviate his symptoms.


I'll definately post the results and ask for a copy; surely the doc has them for tomorrow's appointment. If it's negative, I do intend to do a trial for a few weeks without gluten to see how his body reacts. Most likely will wait until after his birthday party though (next weekend).

Right now the little guy is sitting on the couch eating Lucky Charms out of the box (Dad let him have them). Praying this doesn't upset his tummy. The only cereal he's eaten since being in the hospital is Rice Crispies.
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 03:32 PM

Melissa - FYI, Rice Krispies aren't gluten free. They have barley malt in them.

If he ends up going gluten free, don't worry, there are gluten free specialty brand of Rice Krispies.
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#14 Melissa394

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 03:58 PM

Happygirl, that's why I seriously would need the Celiac for Dummies book; I just looked for flour/wheat and figured they were likely not going to bother him.

Got some results for the blood test-- TTG=zero, TGA was within normal limits. I was told the doctor will go thruogh the results with us tomorrow and discuss next steps.
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 04:29 PM

Melissa, Let us know what the doctor has to say. Ask if the total IgA test was run, also.

If he gets diagnosed with Celiac or you decide to try the diet, we will teach you how to read labels like a pro. No worries. But, no need to overwhelm you with info now - focus on the appointment tomorrow, and let us know how it goes.

Good luck!
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