Anyone have a problem with these? I'm still trying to determine through diet (unsuccessfully for the most part) if I have celiac, but the first time I ate these after going gluten-free I broke out in red itchy bumps on my forearms the following day, and the 2nd time (last week) my abdomen felt really heavy and bloated (more than usual that is). I'm thinking I should probably avoid them. Just wondering if it causes a reaction in others?
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Bob's Red Mill gluten-free Steel Cut Oats
#2
Posted 29 January 2009 - 05:13 AM
I reacted to them, too. I, however, have just changed my thoughts as to why. We have a tendency to immediately blame gluten, but I think that I'm just oat sensitive. There are quite a few people that can tolerate oats with no problem, but there are A LOT of celiacs who cannot tolerate oats.
Part of the reasoning behind my new decision is that I recently heard a dietician speak directly on oats and celiac. In her experience, celiacs that can tolerate oats can only tolerate smewhere between 1/4-1/2 cup at a time. BRM Oats for all purposes should be gluten-free, since they are made in a gluten-free facility, tested, the whole works.
It sounds like you may among the intolerant.
EDIT: BRM gluten-free Oats for all purposes should be gluten-free, since they are made in a gluten-free facility, tested, the whole works.
Part of the reasoning behind my new decision is that I recently heard a dietician speak directly on oats and celiac. In her experience, celiacs that can tolerate oats can only tolerate smewhere between 1/4-1/2 cup at a time. BRM Oats for all purposes should be gluten-free, since they are made in a gluten-free facility, tested, the whole works.
It sounds like you may among the intolerant.
EDIT: BRM gluten-free Oats for all purposes should be gluten-free, since they are made in a gluten-free facility, tested, the whole works.
Be yourself, everyone else is taken.
Oscar Wilde
Gluten free November 2007
IgA Deficient, Neg Bloodwork, Double DQ2 Positive
Dietary and Genetic Diagnosis June 2, 2008
Soy free Jan 09
Celiac.com - Celiac Disease Board Moderator
Oscar Wilde
Gluten free November 2007
IgA Deficient, Neg Bloodwork, Double DQ2 Positive
Dietary and Genetic Diagnosis June 2, 2008
Soy free Jan 09
Celiac.com - Celiac Disease Board Moderator
#3
Posted 29 January 2009 - 05:16 AM
Yes. I ate half a serving and I was very sick for 2 months. I don't think it was from cross contamination. If they are contaminated it isn't by more than 20 ppm since they test. It said on my package (but unfortunately I didn't pay much attention until after) that some celiacs react to even gluten free oats. There is a protein in oats that is similar in structure to gluten. I figure I am one of those. I avoid products from companies that produce oat containing products as well as wheat containing products.
I think this should be more well known so that the first time a celiac tries oats, he will try just a tiny bit to find out if he is sensitive. I wish I had. Hope you feel better soon.
I think this should be more well known so that the first time a celiac tries oats, he will try just a tiny bit to find out if he is sensitive. I wish I had. Hope you feel better soon.
#4
Posted 29 January 2009 - 05:47 AM
lizard00, on Jan 29 2009, 08:13 AM, said:
I reacted to them, too. I, however, have just changed my thoughts as to why. We have a tendency to immediately blame gluten, but I think that I'm just oat sensitive. There are quite a few people that can tolerate oats with no problem, but there are A LOT of celiacs who cannot tolerate oats.
Part of the reasoning behind my new decision is that I recently heard a dietician speak directly on oats and celiac. In her experience, celiacs that can tolerate oats can only tolerate smewhere between 1/4-1/2 cup at a time. BRM Oats for all purposes should be gluten-free, since they are made in a gluten-free facility, tested, the whole works.
It sounds like you may among the intolerant.
Part of the reasoning behind my new decision is that I recently heard a dietician speak directly on oats and celiac. In her experience, celiacs that can tolerate oats can only tolerate smewhere between 1/4-1/2 cup at a time. BRM Oats for all purposes should be gluten-free, since they are made in a gluten-free facility, tested, the whole works.
It sounds like you may among the intolerant.
Be careful with the Bob's Red Mill Oats . . . they make a gluten free oat and they also have just regular oats. If it doesn't say Gluten Free on the packaging (big enough that you'll notice), then you have oats that are (just like all the other mainstream brands) most likely cross-contaminated. You should also be able to tell by price . . . I think I paid over $6 for my small package of BRM gluten free oats and they were even on sale.
They are going to look like this: (or something like this as this is their rolled oat product)
http://www.bobsredmill.com/product.php?pro...=123&page=1
Janet
Daughter: Age 10 - Diagnosed Celiac and Gluten-Free 4/10/07 . . . and she's doing fabulous!!
Son: Age 12 - DQ2 Positive; No symptoms
Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted.
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Daughter: Age 10 - Diagnosed Celiac and Gluten-Free 4/10/07 . . . and she's doing fabulous!!
Son: Age 12 - DQ2 Positive; No symptoms
Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted.
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#5
Posted 29 January 2009 - 08:46 AM
Darn210, on Jan 29 2009, 08:47 AM, said:
Be careful with the Bob's Red Mill Oats . . . they make a gluten free oat and they also have just regular oats. If it doesn't say Gluten Free on the packaging (big enough that you'll notice), then you have oats that are (just like all the other mainstream brands) most likely cross-contaminated. You should also be able to tell by price . . . I think I paid over $6 for my small package of BRM gluten free oats and they were even on sale.
They are going to look like this: (or something like this as this is their rolled oat product)
http://www.bobsredmill.com/product.php?pro...=123&page=1
They are going to look like this: (or something like this as this is their rolled oat product)
http://www.bobsredmill.com/product.php?pro...=123&page=1
Thanks Darn210! Good catch; mine were certified gluten-free, but I did forget to mention that. I think I paid somewhere between $8-10 for mine.
Be yourself, everyone else is taken.
Oscar Wilde
Gluten free November 2007
IgA Deficient, Neg Bloodwork, Double DQ2 Positive
Dietary and Genetic Diagnosis June 2, 2008
Soy free Jan 09
Celiac.com - Celiac Disease Board Moderator
Oscar Wilde
Gluten free November 2007
IgA Deficient, Neg Bloodwork, Double DQ2 Positive
Dietary and Genetic Diagnosis June 2, 2008
Soy free Jan 09
Celiac.com - Celiac Disease Board Moderator
#6
Posted 29 January 2009 - 12:14 PM
I'm sorry I don't have a source, but I read somewhere that some celiacs also may tolerate one variety of oats and not another. The proteins in oats (as in many other plants) will vary from one strain to the next, and the protein in some oats is more similar to gluten than the protein in other oats.
I've seen on various forums that some people have trouble with BRM but not some other brands. Unfortunately, in the U.S., it seems like oats are never labeled as to what variety they are. Just like apples, corn, and tomatoes, there are many different strains available. So if I were sensitive to ANY oat, I would avoid them all.
I seem to be one of the lucky ones who can tolerate oats, but I stick with gluten-free certified for anything that has a significant amount of oats or oat flour in it. I'll accept a small amount of "regular" oat flour in some products. (For example, as long as I don't eat too many, I seem to do fine with the Flat Earth chips). I don't think I'm as sensitive in general as a lot of people here.
Some of my local stores carry a flax and oat muffin that is certified gluten-free. I love them! I do find I can't eat more than one a day, or I start to feel bloated... but that may be mainly due to eating more fiber than I'm used to. They're expensive, though, so it's good I don't eat more than one a day.
I've seen on various forums that some people have trouble with BRM but not some other brands. Unfortunately, in the U.S., it seems like oats are never labeled as to what variety they are. Just like apples, corn, and tomatoes, there are many different strains available. So if I were sensitive to ANY oat, I would avoid them all.
I seem to be one of the lucky ones who can tolerate oats, but I stick with gluten-free certified for anything that has a significant amount of oats or oat flour in it. I'll accept a small amount of "regular" oat flour in some products. (For example, as long as I don't eat too many, I seem to do fine with the Flat Earth chips). I don't think I'm as sensitive in general as a lot of people here.
Some of my local stores carry a flax and oat muffin that is certified gluten-free. I love them! I do find I can't eat more than one a day, or I start to feel bloated... but that may be mainly due to eating more fiber than I'm used to. They're expensive, though, so it's good I don't eat more than one a day.
gluten-free since mid-2007.
"Official" diagnosis is IBS & "Fibromyalgia-like symptoms" -- which have disappeared with the gluten-free diet. Mom & Sister have since been diagnosed Celiac through blood/biopsy tests.
Allergic to walnuts, pecans, and dates. Trouble with soy in high concentrations. OAS to many other raw fruits and vegetables. Occasional bouts of lactose intolerance, but usually dairy is ok unless I've been recently glutened.
"Official" diagnosis is IBS & "Fibromyalgia-like symptoms" -- which have disappeared with the gluten-free diet. Mom & Sister have since been diagnosed Celiac through blood/biopsy tests.
Allergic to walnuts, pecans, and dates. Trouble with soy in high concentrations. OAS to many other raw fruits and vegetables. Occasional bouts of lactose intolerance, but usually dairy is ok unless I've been recently glutened.
#7
Posted 29 January 2009 - 12:22 PM
Darn210, on Jan 29 2009, 08:47 AM, said:
Be careful with the Bob's Red Mill Oats . . . they make a gluten free oat and they also have just regular oats. If it doesn't say Gluten Free on the packaging (big enough that you'll notice), then you have oats that are (just like all the other mainstream brands) most likely cross-contaminated. You should also be able to tell by price . . . I think I paid over $6 for my small package of BRM gluten free oats and they were even on sale.
They are going to look like this: (or something like this as this is their rolled oat product)
http://www.bobsredmill.com/product.php?pro...=123&page=1
They are going to look like this: (or something like this as this is their rolled oat product)
http://www.bobsredmill.com/product.php?pro...=123&page=1
Yes, the package I have is the gluten free version.
On a side note, I'm sure I only paid 5 or 6 bucks for the package and I don't think they were on sale. I got them at Kroger in the natural foods section. Maybe they're more expensive at health food stores (as most things seem to be)? $8-10 is pretty steep!
Anyway, I'm gonna stay away from them for now.
#8
Posted 12 April 2009 - 06:50 PM
i had the rolled oats without problems (same brand). maybe check with the company about the ppm... i am not ones of the super sensitives. 10 -20 ppm only bothers me occasionally. it could also be that you're digestive system still needs to heal before handling something like that
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