[loxleynew]

Before anyone asks I did use the search function! Everything else was posted like 2 years ago so not so reliable imo.

I just did a N.A.E.T acupuncture session and I find it hard to believe. How can something in one of your hands show you if you're allergic to it or not? Makes no sense. I did it yesterday for milk/calcium but it showed I was allergic to everything besides salt. Right.....

Has anyone had positive experience with this? Or do you think it's all in peoples heads and it's a mind thing?

thanks.

[mommida]

Can you please post more information if you continue with the treatment? I can't find any one who finished the treatment or who wasn't a friend of a friend.

[lovegrov]

From everything I've heard and read, it's complete bunk.

richard

[loxleynew]

mommida, on Mar 14 2009, 06:40 PM, said:

Can you please post more information if you continue with the treatment? I can't find any one who finished the treatment or who wasn't a friend of a friend.

I stopped after going once.. It's quite expensive and I don't want to pay that kind of money $60 per time. It seems more like spiritual science or something to me. After the first time she said I was 'cured' of lactose intolerance and could drink milk again. Of course it was wrong and I still get sick. Their simple reply is always "Well sometimes it takes more than 1 time of therapy to cure it." So basically they keep getting money claiming one of these times it will work.

Also the way in which they did it was weird. Halfway through the 'process' she lost some of the 'items' and had to get more. After she got more items we continued not from the beginning but from where we stopped. It's all just fishy..

[coldnight]

I had been considering acupuncture, because I'm just getting fed up, better, but still in limbo, and it's one of the last things I haven't tried, besides SCD or something like it, which is probably up next.

Anyway, I read about NAET today, the history was, according to the site I read, an acupuncturist got sick when she ate carrots. So one day she accidentally ate them, and got sick, and did acupuncture on herself, while laying on some she had dropped, and voila, she could eat them again.

The assumption being while healing her qi flow, or whatever, with the carrots, her body would now accept them.

I don't knock acupuncture and mystic explanations of very old things out of hand, because although not scientific, humans have had thousands and thousands of years to work out trial and error, but we also have a tendency for a strong placebo effect in some cases. Even thinking we are lactose intolerant when we are not, and thinking we are cured when someone pokes us and says we are.

So, I don't want to call it bunk out of hand, but this is the primary reason I've not been. The price, and the real lack of science. For instance, I know a couple people who went to a local acupuncturist for severe asthma, and they claim it cured them, no inhalers, just took herbs and did acupuncture. But it's more than I can afford, especially the time from work, and they really wanted you to come for a LOT of sessions. (Like once a week for two months... and then some, at $80 per, it adds up, plus it's a day of work lost too, it REALLY adds up.)

Anyway, I thought about my little brother who had some nasty asthma when he was around the same age, like ER visits, nebulizer, waking up in the night not being able to breathe... at about the same time they were cured, it just faded away. He never saw an acupuncturist, it just went away. He works out like a fiend now, runs... etc. No inhaler or anything. So, I'm wondering how much of the original story was just coincidence.

At any rate, like I said, I hate to dismiss it, but I think I'm going to. It's too expensive and you shouldn't have to have faith... you should at least have a basic understanding of why and how it works. Otherwise the onus is on the one making the claims to prove it does, which they don't even attempt until you pay them lots and lots.... which is not a good sign.

[mommida]

We had some one on the board here (I think it might have been Gluten free in Nebraska - but it was shortened of hyphenated) that said she was cured. She left the board some time ago and I can't remember what she said cured her.
I truely think some things are 90% mental. Some ancient texts, old wives tales have been proven by modern science to be true. i.e. chicken soup for a cold.
To completely rule out the "natural" remedies is just as ridiculous as completely trusting modern medicine. i.e. Take this pill for depression ~ side affects you can end up on the toilet, unable to have sex, with a headache, but you just won't care ~ and your depression might be gone ~ but you may feel like killing yourself.
If you price compare prescription drugs are way more expensive than $80 a session.
I don't know. My daughter has been diagnosed with Eosinophilic Esophagitis. Modern medicine really doesn't know much about EE. It does seem to be related to allergic response. No allergy testing has been conclusive but the elimination diet has been helping.

[coldnight]

mommida, on Mar 21 2009, 12:10 PM, said:

To completely rule out the "natural" remedies is just as ridiculous as completely trusting modern medicine. i.e. Take this pill for depression ~ side affects you can end up on the toilet, unable to have sex, with a headache, but you just won't care ~ and your depression might be gone ~ but you may feel like killing yourself.
If you price compare prescription drugs are way more expensive than $80 a session.
I don't know. My daughter has been diagnosed with Eosinophilic Esophagitis. Modern medicine really doesn't know much about EE. It does seem to be related to allergic response. No allergy testing has been conclusive but the elimination diet has been helping.

Depends on the prescription, but $80 sessions once a week for several months adds up fast. Usually to a lot more than a year's worth of a normal prescription, if you have insurance. Unfortunately insurance usually doesn't cover things like NAET.

Also, there is a difference between anecdotal evidence and scientific evidence. Anecdotal is that it seems to work for a lot of people, but no one knows why, or if it works the way they think. Or maybe it's just placebo. Scientific can be observed and repeated and a lot of effects are known, how and why. Like depression medication, it is known how it works for the most part, and why it causes those side effects.

Another thing is, from what I read NAET is really not that old. Acupuncture is, but NAET is making different claims than acupuncture really. And the logic behind it based on qi flow and meridian lines, spiritual things that cannot be proven.

[1-out-of-133]

OK- I've gone through at least 20 sessions of the NAET (I got a killer deal on the treatments). The main reason I wanted to try it was because since I've been gluten free, other allergies have popped up. The big thing for me was nightshades, if I had potatoes for breakfast I would have to go back to bed, they were making me that tired and although my reaction to the pepper family was not as intense, paprika is in just about everything. It was so frustrating because I have a pretty severe reaction to eggs also, so going out to breakfast with my friends was pretty frustrating.

The practioner does a "version" of NAET. The main difference she has with NAET is she believes there are three different levels of food allergies. The first level can be cleared with a NAET treatment. The second one is when your body has antibodies to the allergens (me and eggs ), she says after a NAET treatment you need to wait 6 months and challenge the food again to see if your body has gotten rid of the antibodies to that food. It hasn't been six months for me yet for the eggs, so I can't update you on that. The last level is when you have a genetic marker that has been turned on (like celiac) and that means you can't have gluten ever again. She is believes it is important to heal your gut so the things you have been "cleared" for done start damaging your intestines again.

Yes I can eat potatoes now, and no I don't have a reaction to them. The most dramatic changes for me were when she cleared me parts of my own body. I tested allergic to the adrenaline in my body, after she "cleared" me for adrenaline my energy level went from a 4/10 to a 7/10 sometimes even an 8. She did that a couple of months ago and I'm still amazed by that one. Another thing she cleared me for was "fats", I think it was animal and vegetable. Since then my hands haven't been as dry as they used to be. And I think when I was cleared for fats is when I lost enough weight to get into my size 8 jeans again instead of bursting out of my 10's. It sure hasn't been because I've changed my diet.

I hope this helps with the curiosity.

Viola

[Lizz7711]

Hi, have you tried enzymes yet? I'm doing alot of research into them right now, and have recently started taking some...it's too early to tell yet, but there is aLOT of research showing the healing effects on the gut by taking digestive and therapeutic enzymes. Alot of the practical/anecdotal evidence is from the autistic community. Google, enzymes and autism, and you'll find websites/forums that are very informative for anyone with digestive issues. I'm currently reading a great book by Karen Defelice called "Enzymes for Autism and other Neurological conditions". I don't have any connection with Autism, but unfortunately there are not too many books for general conditions...but it's still extremely helpful.

Hope this helps. Oh, and a good website/company to buy enzymes from is enzymedica dot.com

good luck,
Liz
p.s. never tried NAET...I do like at least a LITTLE science backing up a treatment! Acupunture has tons of scientific evidence behind it.

coldnight, on Mar 19 2009, 03:44 PM, said:

I had been considering acupuncture, because I'm just getting fed up, better, but still in limbo, and it's one of the last things I haven't tried, besides SCD or something like it, which is probably up next.

[momtoaaj]

I have a number of verified allergies via RAST testing and my current MD is starting NAET on me. The catch is, it's not costing me anything because I go to a Native American clinic and even though my insurance won't pay for it, I'm game to try it. I've done the first treatment and it is painless and just involves the "vial" and acupressure (on my spine). It actually felt relaxing. I have had year round allergies that I've been on Claritin for a long time. My body is not accepting my nutrients so I'm on lots of supplements. Lots of Vitamin D, Mitothera, Prothera B, Magnesium, Digestive enzymes, digestive tea and UltraInflamx. None of it is working, well, I should say. I am ready for anything.

My friend at church used NAET and she is well now. She did pay for it, but it was done quickly for her. She was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis and was in severe pain and was starting to cripple (hands). She also had heavy metal poisoning and is in her 60s. She finished her treatment and now is pain free and I laughed when she squatted down to the ground to show me how limber she is and she flexed her hands to show me.

I'm not going to knock this! If my memory serves me well enough, I'll come back with my results! I'm super excited to get these treatments under way!

[nicolen1234]

I have been doing NAET treatments since Jan 2009. I was very hesistant at first since it doesn't have much science behind it. Yet, it has acutally helped with my other non-gluten allergies. While I can now eat a small piece of bread and have no noticable reaction, I know it is still damaging my gut. The biggest change for me was with coffee, anytime I had anything with caffee I would be sick to my stomach. It took 3 treatments to completly pass coffee, but now I can have it with no problems.