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#1 takeme out todinner

 
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 05:44 PM

Hi,

I知 new to this forum and am need of help.

I was diagnosed with celiac this summer (after 4 years of being misdiagnosed and basically told it was just in my head). After the diagnoses I began feeling so much better, but after a couple of months (4 months ago) I started to feel horrible again. I remained on the gluten-free diet but started to restrict dairy. Again this helped and I thought this was the root to my problems. Guess again... The sickness struck again and so I eliminated soy and nuts. This helped but still sick. I began gaining extreme weight (10-15 pounds in a month) but was barely eating any food. I decided I couldn稚 go on with this any longer (I知 only 25) and went to a natural path that did blood testing for food allergies and intolerances.

I just got the results and I知 in shock. I have to eliminate wheat/gluten, cows milk, eggs, beans, peas, soy, grapefruit, pineapple, nuts, yeast and the worst thing possible 乏ICE (my lifeline since gluten-free). On top of this- I have allergies to melon, oats, salmon, aspartame, chicken, sesame, asparagus, carrots, corn and peas.

I feel lost and am in disbelief how is it possible to have all these food intolerances and allergies? What am I going to eat?

The natural path put me on a brown rice diet but I thought that the intolerance test said I couldn稚 have rice (when I told her this she said I just cant have white rice?). I don稚 really agree with this diagnosis. She told me to go on this and come back in a month. The diet is full of foods I can稚 eat and she didn稚 suggest anything. I知 really scared to go on this diet because rice just went right through me and so to think of what having a diet that consists of only rice will do to my body is not encouraging. I知 so sick of being sick.

Basically, I知 looking for any help I can get. Anyone else go through this, what do you eat, does the brown rice diet help/work, why so many intolerances???? Even similar stories to maybe make me feel a bit normal because I don稚 know how I知 going to explain this one to people.

Thank you so much for reading and hopefully for some advice!
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 06:25 PM

Hi,

I’m new to this forum and am need of help.

I was diagnosed with celiac this summer (after 4 years of being misdiagnosed and basically told it was just in my head). After the diagnoses I began feeling so much better, but after a couple of months (4 months ago) I started to feel horrible again. I remained on the gluten-free diet but started to restrict dairy. Again this helped and I thought this was the root to my problems. Guess again... The sickness struck again and so I eliminated soy and nuts. This helped but still sick. I began gaining extreme weight (10-15 pounds in a month) but was barely eating any food. I decided I couldn’t go on with this any longer (I’m only 25) and went to a natural path that did blood testing for food allergies and intolerances.

I just got the results and I’m in shock. I have to eliminate wheat/gluten, cows milk, eggs, beans, peas, soy, grapefruit, pineapple, nuts, yeast and the worst thing possible –RICE (my lifeline since gluten-free). On top of this- I have allergies to melon, oats, salmon, aspartame, chicken, sesame, asparagus, carrots, corn and peas.

I feel lost and am in disbelief – how is it possible to have all these food intolerances and allergies? What am I going to eat?

The natural path put me on a brown rice diet – but I thought that the intolerance test said I couldn’t have rice (when I told her this she said I just cant have white rice?). I don’t really agree with this diagnosis. She told me to go on this and come back in a month. The diet is full of foods I can’t eat and she didn’t suggest anything. I’m really scared to go on this diet because rice just went right through me and so to think of what having a diet that consists of only rice will do to my body is not encouraging. I’m so sick of being sick.

Basically, I’m looking for any help I can get. Anyone else go through this, what do you eat, does the brown rice diet help/work, why so many intolerances???? Even similar stories to maybe make me feel a bit normal – because I don’t know how I’m going to explain this one to people.

Thank you so much for reading and hopefully for some advice!

Hi, and welcome to the forum.

I have time only for a quick answer. The good news is that a lot of these intolerances may be temporary. And you well may be able to tolerate some things that you tested mildly positive to, just not very much of them.

Concentrate on what the tests show you can eat for a while-l-ooks like white fish, potatoes, lots of fruit, beans, onions, garlic, tomatoes, spinach, swiss chard, etc., for starters. See how that goes and then try adding in something you were only mildly sensitive to and see how that goes. It will be a long gradual process, but your system may well settle down and tolerate more than it can now. Here's hoping :)
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 06:37 PM

With celiac disease it's important to avoid gluten 100% (as you know). If you have anaphylactic allergies to specific foods... for example, if your throat closes up when you eat peanuts... then it's important to be very careful about avoiding those foods too. It's possible that you have another condition going on (IBS, Chron's, ulcerative colitis... there are lots of possibilities)... have you seen a gastroenterologist lately?

If you're really sure that you don't have any other health problems going on, then my suggestion would be to eliminate ONE food at a time for a couple of weeks and reintroduce it to see how you feel. That's the best way to tell if you're really allergic/intolerant or not. RAST and ELISA testing have a lot of false positives, so you need to test your reaction in real life to be sure if that food is a problem or not (if you have anaphylactic reactions then you should only do this under a doctor's supervision).

My guess is that you probably don't need to eliminate all those foods from your diet. In fact, you could cause a lot of problems for yourself by going on a really restrictive diet... if you start eating the same foods every day (because you don't have anything else to eat) it's easy to become hypersensitive :(
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 07:09 PM

Hey, as crazy as it may be with all the allergies, I myself have 29 other allergies to things aswel. If rice makes you sick then I wouldn't go on the diet. There is other replacements out there and you shouldn't have to restrict yourself to just rice.
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 10:11 PM

I am assuming these are IgG allergies/intolerances? If so, there is much disagreement about them even among naturopaths. I hope you got a copy of your labs. If not, you should. Each allergen should show a number next to it. That number won't mean much to you, but the Dr. should know what it means. Each food has its own number that indicates an allergy.

As for the rice, that just makes no sense. When my daughter was diagnosed, that particular naturopath told her to eat some things she was allergic to. We don't see him any more.

Our current naturopath doesn't believe in such allergies, but does say if we react badly to a particular food, not to eat it. Our allergist said the same thing.

It is possible that you may have to eat a severely restricted diet for a few weeks or months and then have the test repeated. With IgG allergies, you will often test allergic to those foods you eat the most often. But if you stop eating them, the allergy may seem to go away.

It would be wise to have the test repeated every few years. This is what was recommended to my daughter. Some of her allergies went away, but she developed new ones. Peas and lentils! Also spelt which is weird because she only ever ate it once. This is one food the former Dr. said she could have. At the time she was allergic to gluten. She reacted very badly to it.

Currently my daughter is on a rotation diet which is something you may be able to do now or may have to do in the future. This means she can now eat the foods she used to be allergic to, but only twice a week and not on subsequent days. It's a pain! At first we tried to keep a food journal, but found we can usually remember when she has eaten all of her eggs, dairy, bananas, etc. for the week. The journal does help though because you can make any notations of signs of illness, rashes, nosebleeds or whatever symptoms you might have.

Ask your Dr. about this type of diet.
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 10:25 PM

I definitely understand what you're going through. I went through the same thing. I initially improved on the gluten-free diet, but then multiple food allergies began to surface. I dropped weight rapidly. Eventually I dropped down to 105 pounds. I was literally starving to death. I was finally hospitalized, and put on IV nutrition. That was almost 2 years ago. I'm still on IV nutrition, and I haven't eaten a thing in almost two years. My case is very extreme, and I don't mean to scare you. You shouldn't think that what happened to me will happen to you. Keep in mind that the blood tests for food allergies are notoriously inaccurate. And even though you have positive results, it doesn't necessarily mean you can't eat those foods. But this is something for you to discuss with your doctor. I just wanted to let you know that there are others out there who have gone through what you're going through. Good luck with everything,

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 07:30 AM

I also cannot eat the fallowing you listed : wheat/gluten, milk, beans, peas, soy, grapefruit, pineapple, nuts, yeast, rice, melon, oats, salmon, aspartame, sesame, asparagus, carrots. Plus no olives, nightshades (potatoes, tomatoes, peppers), tangerines/tangelos, alfalfa, red/vidalia onions, bananas, kiwis, strawberries; maybe broccoli, cabbage, and cauliflower; and I still manage to eat a nutritious diet, with the help of Kirkman brand's hypoallergenic vitimins.

Now you may be a little less upset to know.. A number of your allergies are actually just part of one common lump allergy : Legumes (Nuts, soy, beans, peas, alfalfa), and no one (celiac or otherwise) is not reactive to aspartame, which is practically a toxin.

I was told by an "alternative" doctor to go on a diet that would have me eating many things I react to. The point was to "desensitize" myself. Horrible idea that made me sicker. I don't know what "natural path" is, but I can't tolerate brown rice much easier than white rice, and if you feel the same way, don't let some doctor or anyone else tell you your own digestive system is lying to you. Same applies to any other foods on the diet they're pushing.

I found the only thing that works for me, is trying one new food every 1-3 days, to check for reactions. In doing this, I found I could eat oranges, eggs, blackberries, raspberries, and even corn (all unexpected). Buckwheat tastes like rice, you could try that. Tapioca is a good alternative. Romain lettuce is very nutritious (better than Iceburg). Eat a variety of red meats (ostrich, buffalo, beef, venison), and/or whatever white meat you can tolerate is good; Like turkey, fish, shellfish. I can also eat white onions, which theoretically aid your digestive system. I also take slippery elm. Other foods.. I am still in the process of trying.
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 03:27 PM

I have celiac, am histamine-intolerant and salicylate-intolerant.

I lived a few weeks on only:


- water

- iceberg lettuce

- potatoes which are low in solanine, like Nicola potatoes

- 100% glutenfree Oatmeal, like Provena Oatmeal from Finland.

- Organic Turkey breast fillet


It was not explainable to anybody but I felt like Superman, feeling my body refresh itself. :D


Now I can tolerate more foods with some supplements im taking.
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Posted 01 May 2009 - 09:23 AM

I know how you feel--I have had multiple foods allergies for about 15 years. I have finally found what I think is the answer--LDA: Low Dose Allergy Immunotherapy. My advice to anybody who has multiple food allergies and/or chemical sensitivies is to learn about LDA and then search for a doctor in your area who practices environmental medicine and employs LDA in your state -- see: http://www.aaemonline.org/find.php (search for doctors by state). The equivalent of this outside of the United States (mainly in UK) is EPD (enzyme potentiated desensitization). Per my doctor "LDA is the closest thing to a cure for allergies." The shots help the body build suppressor T-cells, thereby turning off allergic reactions and all the histimine and other inflammatory chemicals allergies trigger in the body. The only other way to "cure" allergies is avoidance for several months and then reintroduction on a rotated basis (most allergies are not fixed/permanent)--but, if you are allergic to many, many foods/chemicals, LDA is an easier way out because avoidance is difficult for long periods of time.

Your ND is wrong. White rice/brown rice--if you are allergic to rice, you are allergic to rice--period. Also, people who are allergic to foods should be rotating their foods so as to keep their tolerance of them by not eating the same foods day after day. You can learn about rotation and also LDA at this website:

http://www.food-alle...nformation.html

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 07:47 AM

I definitely understand what you're going through. I went through the same thing. I initially improved on the gluten-free diet, but then multiple food allergies began to surface. I dropped weight rapidly. Eventually I dropped down to 105 pounds. I was literally starving to death. I was finally hospitalized, and put on IV nutrition. That was almost 2 years ago. I'm still on IV nutrition, and I haven't eaten a thing in almost two years.


whoa! I've been afraid of getting to that point.
There's a list of "exotic" foods that I can eat, at http://camoo.freeshell.org/exotic.html
Those are the only foods I can eat!
You might check some foods now and then to see if you can eat them.
There are all sorts of unusual Central American roots like name' and malanga and cassava that I found I can eat.
I've been gluten-free for 8 years now, and my food reactions have faded a lot. I've heard they fade out in 5-10 years, and maybe in a couple of years I can start eating various foods I've had to avoid.
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Posted 03 July 2011 - 09:35 AM

The natural path put me on a brown rice diet but I thought that the intolerance test said I couldn稚 have rice (when I told her this she said I just cant have white rice?).


This makes no sense whatsoever! White rice is merely brown rice without the rice bran and germ, so if you're eating brown rice, you're also eating white rice since it's in the middle of the brown. If anything, it'd be the opposite of what she said. Some people can tolerate white rice and not brown.
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Posted 03 July 2011 - 09:54 AM

Were these IgG allergies or IgE allergies or something else? My basic understanding is that the IgE ones are the histamine reactions and are permanent (though they can be helped by allergy shots), where the IgG ones indicate a leaky gut.

The IgG "allergies" come and go. If you have a leaky gut you will become IgG reactive to anything you are eating. This happened severely to one of my cousin's children, and they did a rotation diet for years while he was healing. Basically, you don't eat any one food long enough for it to cause a reaction.

Our family has taken the approach of using the GAPS diet. On the blog linked from my profile you can search on GAPS resources and read more about it. Or you can probably search here and find a bunch of past posts. The idea is that you only eat nutrient-dense, whole foods that are easy to digest and which help restore the balance of gut flora. The diet starts out extremely restricted, then foods are added one by one, slowly.
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Posted 03 July 2011 - 10:02 AM

The IgG "allergies" come and go.


My food sensitivities have lasted more than 5 years. Someone told me once that you can have a food sensitivity that's IgA-mediated and those are more permanent than IgG sensitivities which tend to go away after a few months.

I've tried foods that I quit eating for 5 years, and I got very sick.

I'm sensitive to tiny amounts, a small fraction of a milligram of protein. I tried a vitamin E capsule made from soy once and I was sick for 2 days. I tried 1/16 of a grain of corn - I sliced it up with a razor blade - and I was severely sick for 5 days, in bed and unable to sit up for more than a few seconds because of back pain, only trudging outside now and then, to let my dog into the backyard to pee.

I've heard the IgE allergies also involve a "leaky gut". That's why children have more of them, they have "leaky guts".

Anyway, I mostly just wanted to post to share my list of "exotic foods" which people who have a lot of food reactions, might still be able to eat.
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Posted 03 July 2011 - 10:42 AM

Larapiz, thanks for adding that. I'm sorry if my post came across as suggesting that all of everyone's IgG allergies would go away or aren't severe! That's not what I meant... just that it *can* happen.

Our son showed IgG for all sorts of things, including wheat, barley, oats, and rye... obviously we don't plan on reintroducing those foods! There were lots of other foods on the list, though, too, many of which show absolutely no issues now.
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Our family is transitioning off the GAPS Intro Diet and into the Full GAPS Diet.
Gluten-Free since November 2010
GAPS Diet since January/February 2011
me - not tested for celiac - currently doing a gluten challenge since 11/26/2011
partner - not tested for celiac
ds - age 11, hospitalized 9/2010, celiac dx by gluten reaction & genetics. No biopsy or blood as we were already gluten-free by the time it was an option.
dd - age 12.5, not celiac, has Tourette's syndome
both kids have now-resolved attention issues.

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 10:50 AM

Larapiz, thanks for adding that. I'm sorry if my post came across as suggesting that all of everyone's IgG allergies would go away or aren't severe! That's not what I meant... just that it *can* happen.


as I said earlier, I was told that IgA sensitivities last for years. I don't know whether this is true or not. Enterolab tests for IgA antibodies to foods in stool samples. I had a lot of IgA antibodies to casein.

Other than Enterolab I haven't gotten food sensitivity testing. The IgG antibody tests are of questionable accuracy, so I've done elimination diets and food challenges. If I get sick from a food challenge, I get quite sick, so it's not ambiguous.

The allergists' offices just seem to know about the IgG food sensitivities that last a few months. I've wondered if the more permanent food reactions are a feature of celiac disease and less common.

I was talking about getting sick from tiny amounts of food, because non-IgE food sensitivities aren't supposed to be to tiny amounts. Brostoff and Gamlin's book on it says that people with non-IgE sensitivities only have problems with normal-portion amounts of food.

So again, Brostoff and Gamlin seem to be talking about something else, perhaps more common. Perhaps what I've been through is less common, a feature of an autoimmune disease - celiac disease.
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