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#1 Guest_gliX_*

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 02:39 PM

A friend just found out one of his co-workers has celiac. The co-worker says that she doesn't check for specific ingredients when eating foods, and just avoids bread and pasta. She says that since she's been doing this her blood work has changed and become completely normal, and the doctor says everything came back normal. If this is true, is it really bad to have a slice of a pizza once in a while? If the blood work comes back normal after doing this, what is wrong with it? The obvious answer is not to risk it, or that it's not worth it, but if the blood comes back normal, than doesn't it mean it did no damage? I'm not saying I will cheat at all, because I'm very strict about the diet, but just curious for an opinion.
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#2 MySuicidalTurtle

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 02:46 PM

Blood tests do not show if there is damage done to your intestines.


WHENEVER gluten is eaten their will be damage done.
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 02:49 PM

I doubt that such a thing is true. Maybe her doctor didn't read the results correctly or maybe she's just saying that to feel....less guilty or make you cheat? And you can never cheat....not because of the antibodies (after all, those don't do anything to you, they're just a sign of whether you're fully gluten-free or not)...but because your intestines will be torn up and they'll have to heal all over again. And frequent phases of cheating will put you at risk for those terrible complications listed so many times on here. Additionally, if you heal yourself, then cheat, then heal again, then cheat right away, you're not helping yourself much at all because just as you get back to normal, your villi get demolished and your body can't even really feel the effects of a gluten-free diet.
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 03:53 PM

Maybe being off the major wheat sources brought her blood count down but even if her blood tests came back normal there will be damage done. All gluten will give you damage. Even if you just have it now and then not only are you damaging yourself..you are pretty much setting an early death date for you by ignoring the diet...she is very ill informed and must have a not so good doctor either.
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 06:29 PM

As everyone else has said, the blood counts will not reveal damage. This is one reason why blood tests, which don't show false positives, DO show false negatives. You have to do a lot of damage to your intestines to get antibodies showing up in your bloodstream.

Untreated celiac - and cheating means untreated - decreases your average age of death and increases your risk of SO many things. It's not worth it.
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 07:45 PM

Do you think a person who keeps on a gluten free diet will still have a reduced life compared to an average person?
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 08:57 PM

Yes, because it means you are being unhealthy and it leaves you open to more dieseases and illnesses.
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 09:05 PM

gliX, the studies show that fully treated celiac does not impact length of life nearly as severely as being untreated, but the chances of lymphomas, osteoporsis, anemia, and so on are all DRAMATICALLY reduced when the gluten-free diet is maintained. interestingly, some studies still show reduced quality of life, but when you consider than less than a third of celiacs are truely compliant, and many have a lot of trouble implementing their diet in their lives (be it eating out or dealing with family or having to cook), it's not quite as surprising.
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Posted 13 April 2005 - 10:52 AM

OOPS! I thought Glix was asking a person with Celiacs who does NOT stick to the diet!

No, it won't imapct life span.
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Posted 13 April 2005 - 10:59 AM

When you are fully compliant to the gluten free diet then I don't think life spans are affected. If life span is affected it is definitely not like it is when you don't follow the diet.
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Posted 13 April 2005 - 11:53 AM

I'm quite surprised that person who cheats doesn't get really sick upon doing so! My spells get worse the longer I am gluten-free when it's accidentally ingested.
I hate feeling that sick! No piece of pizza is worth it!
I think either that girl just has a wheat allergy instead of intolerance or her doctor knows absolutely nothing about celiac disease.
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Posted 13 April 2005 - 02:46 PM

A lot of people are asymptomatic - even though damage is being done. I don't get severe symptoms myself, though some discomfort. It varies a lot from person to person - one reason why some people do find it harder to remain compliant.
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Posted 15 April 2005 - 07:11 PM

When I have accidently gotten gluten, I sometimes end up in the hospital and sometimes just get the bad stomach cramps and diarrhea. I never know how severe my reaction will be. I agree, it's not worth the risk.
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