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One Dr. Uses Wine Sensitivity As Health "gauge"

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I know the topic of wine comes up again and again, with some folks in the "all wine is gluten-free" camp and some in the "not sure why, but I react to wine" camp.

Here's an interesting approach that suggests there can be both camps :)

In the current Wine Enthusiast magazine, there's a short piece (not yet online unless I'm missing something) titled "Just What the Doctor Ordered: Wine may be an essential gauge for your overall health". A Cleveland Clinic anesthesiologist, Dr. Foss, says that if a patient tells him "I can't drink because...", he figures something is out of balance health-wise. Of course the list of possible underlying issues is a long one , but one example is a person could react to bee pollen left on the grape skins (!).

Dr. Foss doesn't mention fining or filtering agents...

The article is only 6 short paragraphs, on page 11. Bottom line says Dr. Foss "Be alert to changes in your response to alcohol. It can help detect conditions at an early stage, when they can be treated or cured."

In case they post this later, the magazine's website is Open Original Shared Link

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taweavmo3 Enthusiast
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That is interesting. After I had my third baby, I couldn't drink anymore. Even if I only had one drink, I would feel completely hungover the next day. I still have no clue what could have caused that, but even after 5 years, one more baby, and the gluten-free/cf diet, I still can't drink anymore w/out getting sick the next day.

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Carybear Rookie
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VERY interesting. 

I get a bad reaction to red wine. It's not a gluten reaction however. My neck muscles get super tense and sore. It does not happen when i drink white wine tho.

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bartfull Rising Star
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White wine gives me a headache. Red wine has me rushing to the bathroom before I even finish one glass. Mom told me her doctor said that inability to tolerate red wine was one of the first signs of celiac. Of course, that was back in the 80's, and who knows if it's right? But about the time I started developing psoriasis, I developed my intolerance to red wine.

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Gemini Experienced
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Well, I must be as healthy as a newborn pony because I tolerate red wine VERY WELL!  Thank goodness for small miracles...... :D

I should add that I could not tolerate any alcohol pre-diagnosis and only discovered the wonders of red wine after I had healed so I must have done something right.

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pricklypear1971 Community Regular
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Interesting. I only drink reds in the winter - dehydratese and gives me a headache in ware months. Seasonal allergies have a big effect on my tolerance of all alcohol.

Bad allergies=headache from a drink.

Other times, I'm good to go!

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I  react  to the  sulphites  in  wine,  which is  very  common  for  many  people.. Sulphite  free  wine  doesn't  bother  me....

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Nikki2777 Community Regular
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Has anyone had a reflux type reaction to wine?  I had awful, awful reflux last night (almost never have it otherwise) after two glasses of white, and no food.  Wondering if it could be related to the celiac?

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